"The August 2020 US Politics Thread is highly thought of, but nobody likes me. It can only be my personality. That's all."

People are complicated! I would not be at all shocked by a traditionally Democratic voter who grew up in a Democratic household and has stayed mostly Democrat — because they support public schools, Social Security, maybe even environmental protection — but also thinks "people should come here the right way" and is a little unnerved by seeing signs in Spanish popping up around the community.

There are probably some of them in my neighborhood, which is mostly lower-middle-class and has a lot of retirees and votes like 80 percent Democratic. (Also, that same person may well be on great terms with their new Latino neighbors, of whom there are a lot more now than 20 years ago.)

There was a poll taken just a few weeks ago that showed something like 70% of Trump supporters - not just conservative and Republicans at large, but specifically Trump supporters - support DACA, iirc. If 70% of *Trump supporters" are behind DACA, then a Democrat being against sounds like a pretty serious outlier.

Trump's Bank Was Subpoenaed by N.Y. Prosecutors in Criminal Inquiry

The New York prosecutors who are seeking President Trump’s tax records have also subpoenaed his longtime lender, a sign that their criminal investigation into Mr. Trump’s business practices is more wide-ranging than previously known.

The Manhattan district attorney’s office issued the subpoena last year to Deutsche Bank, which has been Mr. Trump’s primary lender since the late 1990s, seeking financial records that he and his company provided to the bank, according to four people familiar with the inquiry.

The criminal investigation initially appeared to be focused on hush-money payments made in 2016 to two women who have said they had affairs with Mr. Trump.

But in a court filing this week, prosecutors with the district attorney’s office cited “public reports of possibly extensive and protracted criminal conduct at the Trump Organization” and suggested that they were also investigating possible crimes involving bank and insurance fraud.

...

Deutsche Bank complied with the subpoena. Over a period of months last year, it provided Mr. Vance’s office with detailed records, including financial statements and other materials that Mr. Trump had provided to the bank as he sought loans.

Deutsche Bank’s cooperation with Mr. Vance’s office is significant because other investigations that have sought Mr. Trump’s financial records have been stymied by legal challenges from the president and his family.

Last month, the Supreme Court dealt a blow to congressional investigations into the president’s finances when it ordered lower courts to reconsider whether Deutsche Bank and Mazars USA, Mr. Trump’s accounting firm, had to comply with congressional subpoenas seeking his records. The ruling meant that the subpoenas would not be enforced until after the presidential election in November, if at all.

Mr. Vance’s office declined to comment.

August surprise?

👀 https://t.co/rzJzTk8OGw

— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) August 6, 2020

um

https://www.newsandguts.com/twitter-bans-trump-until-he-deletes-coronavirus-post/

(ftr, this is a thing Twitter does. I'm permabanned on three separate accounts for being brutal to Trumpers, but when you first break their rules, they tell you of your temporary suspension, then they make you go out there and delete the offending post, unlike Facebook who removes it for you. Then your temp ban ends and you can return to your stupid audience).

btw circumventing a ban only requires a new phone number, apparently. google voice must be doing great business amongst trolls.

I thought it was the trash account TeamTrump that was banned

you are apparently correct. meh.

woulda been an 11 hour ban at most anyway

just can't wait for these fuckers to go away forever

They won't.

Maybe Ivanka will join a Tom Cotton #resistance movement in 2028.

Cotton will be making human suits out of people long before that

he is creepy

Hawley is too

Data points.

* U.S. PRESIDENT TRUMP SAYS CORONAVIRUS VACCINE POSSIBLE AROUND NOV. 3, ELECTION DAY@Reuters

— Carl Quintanilla (@carlquintanilla) August 6, 2020

How can voters be sending in Ballots starting, in some cases, one month before the First Presidential Debate. Move the First Debate up. A debate, to me, is a Public Service. Joe Biden and I owe it to the American People!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 6, 2020

"I thought it was a good interview," Trump says of @jonathanvswan's interview. "A lot of people liked that interview." He says some people think it was unfair but Swan is a nice guy and he thought it was fair enough. (He does add that some of Swan's numbers were "phony." No.)

— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) August 6, 2020

trump has a secret plan to end the ronnie

Good morning!

Can’t you find common ground with the GOP on doing something for minorities and the disenfranchised? @MadMoneyOnCNBC's @JimCramer asks.

“Perhaps you mistook them for somebody who gives a damn for what you just described?” House Speaker Nancy Pelosi says. https://t.co/RbVuuUTDhx pic.twitter.com/pGOo20SBPR

— CNBC (@CNBC) August 6, 2020

damn

lol

I really enjoy No-Fucks-Left Pelosi

she should use these lack of fucks to light a spark under jerrold nadler's overly-cautious ass

yeah. nadler was not a good person to be in a leadership role, ranking member of the house judiciary committee, these last 2 years.

as predicted, it looks like neo-nazi Steve King's defeat in the primary does ensure a republican victory in IA-4:

CD4: The outlook for this race changed dramatically when long-time Rep. Steve King lost the Republican primary to Randy Feenstra. Democrat J.D. Scholten was hoping to improve on his narrow 3-point loss to the controversial incumbent two years ago, but the current poll results suggest otherwise. Feenstra has a commanding 54% to 34% lead over Scholten among registered voters, with 8% undecided. The Republican’s advantage widens among likely voters in both a high turnout scenario (55% to 34%) and in a low turnout scenario (56% to 33%).

https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/monmouthpoll_IA_080620/

I think I mentioned it in a distant thread but about 4 years ago I stayed at JD Scholten & his then-GF's home (not in Iowa), he was working as a paralegal and baseball coach, he made no mention of joining politics. Super cool dude, incredibly tall and good taste in beer.

My wife just corrected me: it was exactly 4 years ago today, that whole weekend.

thought you wrote "and he tasted of beer."

Wow, I guess I should point out this was not a swinger's weekend, it was for a mutual friends' wedding.

I’ll trade the one seat for Steve King eating shit.

He tasted of Schlitz, his wife's into pits.

The Harris/Markey/Sanders $2k temporary UBI is such a beautiful fantasy to think about.

Is the NY AG presser on anywhere?

BREAKING: NY AG calls to dissolve @NRA and oust Wayne LaPierre, its leader for the last 39 years. In lawsuit filed today, AG accuses LaPierre and top lieutenants of a decades-long pattern of fraud -- and of diverting millions from NRA coffers to line their own pockets.

— Carol Leonnig (@CarolLeonnig) August 6, 2020

culture war! culture war! culture war!

get HYPED

huh, hasn't started yet but embargo for leaks has ended I guess?

https://ag.ny.gov/livestream

NRA just announced today they'd be ploughing millions into supporting Trump in battleground states

check the dn

Ah, this must have been the root of Turmp's "Catholics love the 2nd Amendment" wordbelch yesterday

The chief executive of the National Rifle Association and several top lieutenants engaged in a decades-long pattern of fraud to raid the coffers of the powerful gun rights group for personal gain, according to a lawsuit filed Thursday by the New York attorney general, draining $64 million from the nonprofit in just three years.

it's always a strange feeling, watching powerful people go down for things that seem auxiliary to the main crime they perpetuate on a daily basis (fighting tooth and nail against any regulations against guns for decades).

Crime vs "crime"

Already seeing the "the Republicans are gonna turn this into culture-war victory in November" on Twitter. Personally, I don't think this is gonna be the thing that drags President 40% - President 150,000 Corpses - across the finish line, but I've been wrong before.

Of course they will spin it as "see?!?!?!? they ARE coming to take your guns", but I'm cautiously hopeful that the actual issue being "widespread fraud" will tamp that down a little bit.

haha yeah that's essentially what i just said on an NRA thread. i highly doubt it will make any kind of appreciable difference in the election but still, the timing is maybe less than ideal.

Trump has improved in the polls a bit in recent weeks (that should subside when he screws up whatever he screws up this week). his approval ratings outside of Rasmussen though are hot garbage. they had improved a bit towards end of last week, but the first few that came out this wee were 40 - 56, 40 - 59, et al.

pepole should be falling over themselves getting him to say something awful to use in ads right now. like have a Better Call Saul camera crew ready to edit commercials on the fly

Safari bribes lol.

I mean they accused of stealing their own member’s money and NOT using it to defend 2a rights! But of course they are all too used to being grifted on and openly defend it

Yeah, I don't think most NRA members are going to care about how their money was used, ultimately. It's finally truly sinking into my brain, this notion that these people don't care whether their personal interests are served so long as they're part of a group who's sticking it to the other side.