The Nintendo Switch

earthbound was like $80 in 1995 yeah. part of why it flopped. the $60 standard didnt really get established until the late 90s

Anyway, it's really not a matter of what things cost 20 years ago, isn't a better comparison what competitors charge today?

who are the competitors for pikmin?

not that i think everyone should drive a forklift of money to nintendo all time time but they don't really have true competitors which is why they can and do price like that

I mean, their competitors would be I guess other video game manufacturers? But others have pointed out that the big three offer such distinct experiences at this point that they are functionally different things, so yeah.

Certainly Nintendo can charge whatever they want for the properties they own. They know their market. I just don't think it's a terribly good defense of high prices to say, boy, they would have been even higher a couple of decades ago!

i am the competitor of pikmin

which i will purchase, for $60

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNkntZMzE9o&t=282

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNkntZMzE9o&feature=youtu.be&t=282

"Competitor" conveys such gladiatorial cool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNkntZMzE9o

Go to 5:22 for my hilarious joke.

4:46 dammit I'm dum.

dumkey

prices for video games have gone down, while inflation for other consumer goods has gone up. this is a competitive advantage for consumers in the video game sector. fear me pikmin 3!

I agree that it totally sucks that Nintendo products refuse to go down at the same rate as the games for every other system... but what can you do? There's always someone out there who's going to buy Mario Kart or Tropical Freeze or whatever Kirby title got shoveled out this year at full price. That, or Nintendo somehow still has the power to lock retailer prices.

Think also that the fact that virtually every Sony or MS title now eventually gets ported to PC where the prices race to zero probably is a factor. But lol, yeah, I'm sure even Last of Us II will hit $25 by November, and that was definitely worth full price.

It's something of a compensation that Nintendo titles also seem to hold their resell value insanely well. Some used games are going for £5 less than new on eBay. Another reason not to buy downloads, that

would Breath of the Wild be good on a Switch Lite or does it really need the full Switch/controllers setup?

I've only played it on a Switch Lite so I dunno what I'm missing. Played great.

I played it a lot undocked on holiday and do think it's even better on a big screen but it's still great handheld

i usually play it handheld but my tv is kinda shit tbf

i do really like the motion controls for aiming but a lot of people hate it and turn it off

I think I would generally like them but it sounds like it plays well without. Thanks!

Motion control for aiming the bow works on the Life, at least.

*lite

ohh nice! I thought the Lite didn't have motion controls for some reason

More limited motion stuff than the normal Switch for sure, but some.

lite has everything except the rumble and the infrared camera that i don't know what is for

Taking your pulse when playing ring fit.

and it doesn't work

Yeah I never use it 🤣

lite has everything except the rumble and the infrared camera

technically ... but some motions are really annoying. I remember a "flip up" gesture for Mario Odyssey that I gave up on. Dunno if there are any games that let you do different gestures with each hand, those would obviously be impossible.

yeah obv theres plenty of motion control games that require the actual joycons since they need 2 motion sensors and not one

I can finally participate in this thread!

welcome!

i think there's another indie direct tomorrow. last one didn't have any games in my wheelhouse though

congrats, Leee. they maybe didn't tell you this at the store, but it's a good thing to note before enjoying your new nintendo switch purchase: the games are cheaper on josh's PS4. ok, i think you're ready to participate!

Also, the Switch is not Bluetooth capable, I think because the joycons use their own dedicated Bluetooth. However, I was able to get a Bluetooth adapter that goes in the headphone jack, so now in tandem with our cheapo LED projector my kids and their friends should be able to play the Switch in the backyard on a big screen (or the side of the garage). Which is kind of awesome.

Yeah, and the games are expensive, too.

<3 u josh

co-op HONK

OK, speak of the devil, I could use some help with this bluetooth workaround. Like I mentioned, Switch doesn't really support Bluetooth because it doesn't want anything to interfere with the Joy-cons, afaict. But you can buy bluetooth transmitters that plug in to the headphone jack so that you can use the Switch with wireless headphones or an external speaker. It's the latter that I'm trying to figure out, so my kids can play it outside but still have the game be loud enough to hear over the din of cicadas and cars. I bought one of these dongles:

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/S/aplus-media/vc/cab7feac-87fc-4dfe-8c7f-19430e892a64.__CR0,0,150,300_PT0_SX150_V1___.jpg

And what do you know, it works ... except the signal is so quiet that even with everything turned up it sounds like sitting next to someone listening to something on headphones. The same thing happened with a couple of different portable bluetooth speakers. I'm going to hold on to it and try to see what's up, but in the meantime, do any of you know why the Bluetooth signal via a transmitter in the headphone jack should be so muted?

I just ordered one of these (which plugs into the USB-C on the base) to see if I get different or better results:

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71VdPuH9QsL._AC_SS350_.jpg

How is the bluetooth dongle powered?

It's battery powered but can also operate while charging/plugged in via USB.

how are you getting video to the LED projector? Are you not using the dock+hdmi to the projector? why aren't you grabbing sound from the projector?

The Switch (which has to remain docked) goes to the LED projector via HDMI. The projector does have audio, but it's pretty quiet/rudimentary; when we show movies outside we connect to an external Bluetooth speaker. Hmm. I *could* try attaching the dongle to the projector itself and see what difference that makes ...

what is the projector? I'm not suggesting to play audio off the projector's speaker, but there may be a line level audio output?

It's a cheapo no name brand projector (like, literally, as far as I can tell) that does have a 3.5" AV line out input. I suppose I could just buy a 3.5 to 3.5 connector. I assume the Bluetooth speaker I have has a 3.5 input somewhere as well.

hypnospace outlaw !

i would hope that has touchscreen controls since its entirely a point and click game. extremely good game if the port works out

this indie world has a bunch of stuff I'm into! Notably the aforementioned Hypnospace Outlaw, A Short Hike, Spiritfarer ("a cozy management game about dying"), Garden Story (instabuy when it's out), Takeshi and Hiroshi (love the visual design), Bear and Breakfast, Raji (indie indian god of war?), Card Shark (a historical cheating game!) and Struggling (jesus at this character design).

Hell, even Torchlight III might make for a fun, portable Diablo.

diablo is already on switch fwiw

you want a challop: i prefer torchlight.