And, since I forgot to share earlier, here are the full results for interludes:
1 Interlude: Speaker Phone 28 32 Interlude: T.V. 19 23 Interlude: Intro 14 23 Interlude: Let's Dance 14 25 Interlude: Livin'... In Complete Darkness 9 15 Interlude: 2WayForYou 9 17 Interlude: Are You Still Up 8 18 Interlude: Promise 7 19 Interlude: Pledge 6 19 Interlude: Back 6 1
2 Interlude: T.V. 19 2
3 Interlude: Intro 14 23 Interlude: Let's Dance 14 2
5 Interlude: Livin'... In Complete Darkness 9 15 Interlude: 2WayForYou 9 1
7 Interlude: Are You Still Up 8 1
8 Interlude: Promise 7 1
9 Interlude: Pledge 6 19 Interlude: Back 6 1
― Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Monday, 3 August 2020 17:17 (three years ago) link
lol I think if I got my shit together enough to do remixes they'd all be stuff that wasn't on that list. Seriously, no one voted for "I Get Lonely (TNT Remix)"????
― vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 3 August 2020 17:20 (three years ago) link
Only voted for tracks; could have plausibly put together album and video ballots, and possibly should have. The interludes, though, are just a nuisance and I usually skip them or program them out (actually had a playlist called "Janet sans Interludes" for the purposes of re-listening/organizing my ballot).
― A White, White Gay (cryptosicko), Monday, 3 August 2020 17:23 (three years ago) link
sorry stevie yr psychic hotline was closedi thought everyone would vote for remixes!oh well, i didnt vote for any interludes
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 3 August 2020 17:25 (three years ago) link
Fabulous thread title
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 August 2020 17:34 (three years ago) link
I'm pretty sure that someone here (Stevie?) put together a playlist that was ONLY Janet interludes once.
― Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Monday, 3 August 2020 17:37 (three years ago) link
ha I didn't make it but I did search for and find it already made on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/42bXt23aO5Nkmqz57d3de0?si=niezKh6JQbK4aLXcChHQUA
― vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 3 August 2020 17:41 (three years ago) link
Next in line, according to the number of voters (5), music videos!
― Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Monday, 3 August 2020 18:07 (three years ago) link
9. THE PLEASURE PRINCIPLE (1987; 23 points; 2 votes) [tie]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-gu1KETjVY
9. THAT'S THE WAY LOVE GOES (23 points; 2 votes) [tie]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2b_KfAGiglc
― Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Monday, 3 August 2020 18:09 (three years ago) link
aaaaaaaaaaaaa
― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Monday, 3 August 2020 18:31 (three years ago) link
thats the way love goes video is great. i really just wanted to kick it in that room with all those people, well mostly janet. really warm and inviting, good lighting. has aged really well i think.
― Spottie, Monday, 3 August 2020 18:33 (three years ago) link
I'm surprised "That's The Way Love Goes" is so low, it's such a moooood (also, J Lo)
― vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 3 August 2020 18:39 (three years ago) link
I def love the vibe of that video but I also like other videos of hers better too idk
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 3 August 2020 18:43 (three years ago) link
8. GO DEEP (1998; 25 points; 2 votes)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xjs7Vwf3t_E
― Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Monday, 3 August 2020 19:03 (three years ago) link
7. ESCAPADE (1990; 25 points; 3 votes)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFX3gQHIroU
― Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Monday, 3 August 2020 19:10 (three years ago) link
I discovered the "Go Deep" video going thru all her videos for this poll and I was blown away, I think it was my #2
― vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 3 August 2020 19:12 (three years ago) link
The "Go Deep" video rules
― shout-out to his family (DJP), Monday, 3 August 2020 19:14 (three years ago) link
All that Requiem for a Dream shoulder-cam tho.
― Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Monday, 3 August 2020 19:23 (three years ago) link
Wow haven't thought about that "Go Deep" vid for like 20 years. Very fun, very late '90s
― bunny slopes, Monday, 3 August 2020 19:24 (three years ago) link
ahh man, the 'go deep' video. . . the things one forgets! i think that's one case where the video really sold the song for me. i was lukewarm on it as part of the album, but after seeing the video a few times, i reassessed and surmised that it's a solid groove.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Monday, 3 August 2020 19:31 (three years ago) link
6. IF (32 points; 3 votes)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTSd4vqnMwo
― Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Monday, 3 August 2020 19:46 (three years ago) link
5. When I Think of You (1986; 36 points; 3 votes)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaleKN9GQ54
― Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Monday, 3 August 2020 19:55 (three years ago) link
(Need to take an hour. Will come back then with the final four videos and launch into albums.
― Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Monday, 3 August 2020 19:56 (three years ago) link
I didn't vote for videos and now I'm mad that "That's the Way Love Goes" was so low but I have nobody but myself to blame.
― justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Monday, 3 August 2020 20:17 (three years ago) link
IF video TOO LOW
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 3 August 2020 20:18 (three years ago) link
Wow, somehow I have...never seen that awesome Julian Temple-directed "When I Think of You" video! I'm a sucker for "one-shot" stuff (even/especially if it's easy to see some of the cuts)
― bunny slopes, Monday, 3 August 2020 20:31 (three years ago) link
yeah i hadn't either. amazing!
― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Monday, 3 August 2020 20:41 (three years ago) link
i cried when the cops arrested the old white guy instead of the street dancers at the end
― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Monday, 3 August 2020 20:42 (three years ago) link
lol I read that the wrong way at first
― shout-out to his family (DJP), Monday, 3 August 2020 20:43 (three years ago) link
Haha, me too. Yeesh.
― Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Monday, 3 August 2020 20:59 (three years ago) link
4. RHYTHM NATION (1989; 39 points; 3 votes)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAwaNWGLM0c
― Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Monday, 3 August 2020 21:01 (three years ago) link
how was that not #1!
― Spottie, Monday, 3 August 2020 21:04 (three years ago) link
(BTW, that's the single song video, not the VHS "LP" thing.)
― Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Monday, 3 August 2020 21:06 (three years ago) link
Sorry, forgot to include 1 first-place vote for both "When I Think Of You" and "Rhythm Nation."
― Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Monday, 3 August 2020 21:12 (three years ago) link
03. LOVE WILL NEVER DO (WITHOUT YOU) (1990; 47 points; 4 votes; 1 first-place vote)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63zEDkg351c
02. ALRIGHT (1990; 48 points; 4 votes; 1 first-place vote)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8UidwWPin4
01. GOT 'TIL IT'S GONE (1997; 56 points; 4 votes; 1 first-place vote)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn6KpNLbUFk
― Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Monday, 3 August 2020 21:28 (three years ago) link
what in the world
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 3 August 2020 21:38 (three years ago) link
i think "love will never do {without you)" would have been my #1. so simple and beautiful - salt flats, bodies, light
― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Monday, 3 August 2020 21:47 (three years ago) link
I didn't give "Got 'Til It's Gone" it's first-place vote, but I absolutely endorse it in the top spot tbh.
― Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Monday, 3 August 2020 21:49 (three years ago) link
And now for albums, which had waaaaay more participation.
― Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Monday, 3 August 2020 22:14 (three years ago) link
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f4/Janet_Jackson_20_Y.O..png
09. 20 Y.O. (2006; 6 points; 1 vote)
― Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Monday, 3 August 2020 22:15 (three years ago) link
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/34/Janet_Jackson_Discipline.png
08. DISCIPLINE (2008; 7 points; 1 vote)
― Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Monday, 3 August 2020 22:20 (three years ago) link
My big albums question: given all the stumping in the voting thread, can Damito Jo overtake a classic (All For You, janet., Control?) and make it into the Top 5?
― bunny slopes, Monday, 3 August 2020 22:23 (three years ago) link
i mentioned this in the voting thread, but 'got til it's gone' was such a huge moment for me and the video is burned into my memory. i didn't submit a videos ballot, but that would have been my #1 if i had.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Monday, 3 August 2020 22:24 (three years ago) link
hey! i was the one vote for discipline!
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Monday, 3 August 2020 22:25 (three years ago) link
I suppose the fact I was one of the 3 who voted for remixes but didn't vote for albums reveals the type of Janet fan I am. Still excited for the tracks rundown and enjoyed the deep dive
― or something, Monday, 3 August 2020 23:07 (three years ago) link
But some of those 90s house remixes really are among the finest examples of the form
― or something, Monday, 3 August 2020 23:09 (three years ago) link
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c9/Janet_Jackson_-_Damita_Jo.png
07. DAMITA JO (2004; 63 points; 9 votes)
― Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Monday, 3 August 2020 23:12 (three years ago) link
xp to or something: so, when this is all rolled out, you wanna share a playlist or recommend some good ones?
because i'm admittedly very ignorant on most of her remixes and would like to not be.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Monday, 3 August 2020 23:14 (three years ago) link
Not quite, as it turned out ... but for a little while it got close.
― Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Monday, 3 August 2020 23:18 (three years ago) link
janet over madonna is pretty easy for me but i've never been quite convinced of madonna's greatness. very good, sure, but not as consistent or exciting as janet at her best
janet over mj is even easier - the good part of his discography really isn't that big and i was never able to love thriller - overexposure as a child means i would be fine never hearing "thriller" or "beat it" again and i'm not exactly inclined to try to love it now for the obvious reasons
prince is wayy closer but i'm inclined to give janet the edge at the moment just for range?
james brown, stevie wonder & little richard all predate the modern 80s-onward pop star model so i wouldn't even really try to compare them
― ufo, Sunday, 9 August 2020 05:05 (three years ago) link
now that you’ve all had time to digest the Janet Jackson/g poll, maybe folx here are up for a different kind of poll: 🇳🇬 NAIJA SPECIAL: which of these *seven* current high-profile Nigerian hit songs is the best one? please help me decide
― No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Monday, 17 August 2020 21:31 (three years ago) link
(I know I’ve plugged this poll here before, but I still think at least some (more) of you might really enjoy it. If you’re looking for way in it could be Tiwa Savage, who’s worked for or with people like George Michael, Whitney Houston, Mary J Blige, Chaka Khan, Fantasia, and Chuck Harmony during the UK- and US-centered first part of her long career. Also, Ciara bit one of her songs for “Freak Me”!)(sorry, I honestly thought I would be able to find a direct link between them, but no joy - okay, they were both on the roster for MTV’s 2018 Europe Music Award - but do yourselves a favour and take a little trip to that other Rhythm Nation!)(Janet fans also might find lots to love in Niniola, and then of course there’s... Okay, okay, I’ll stop now and remain forever silent)
putting my ballot together for this poll was the most fun I had with music all year, if not ever. good memories.
― swing out sister: live in new donk city (geoffreyess), Saturday, 19 December 2020 03:03 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqXT3FVPgLU
― xzanfar, Saturday, 19 December 2020 03:05 (three years ago) link
My Spotify 2020 recap had Janet very much at the top of my most-played artists. That could likely have been true in any year tho.
― On average, this critic grades 8.3 points lower than other critics (Eric H.), Saturday, 19 December 2020 03:15 (three years ago) link
Compare and contrast the poll results with The Guardian's list of the 30 best Janet Jackson tracks. Four of the top five are the same, albeit in a different order.
Janet Jackson’s 30 best songs – ranked
― Portsmouth Bubblejet, Thursday, 15 April 2021 18:04 (two years ago) link
I'm absolutely at peace with that top 5.
― avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Thursday, 15 April 2021 18:10 (two years ago) link
One from each of her four imperial-phase albums plus "Love Will Never Do" as the bridge between the '80s and '90s eras.
― avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Thursday, 15 April 2021 18:13 (two years ago) link
holy shit Empty at #5
― Warmed Regards, (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 15 April 2021 20:39 (two years ago) link
She's selling her wedding dress? If it's a marriage that ended acrimoniously, I guess so, but still strikes me as a little unseemly.
― clemenza, Thursday, 15 April 2021 20:52 (two years ago) link
(If the money is earmarked for charity, obviously very different.)
― clemenza, Thursday, 15 April 2021 20:53 (two years ago) link
That's a surprisingly great list / write-up. Nice to see some thoughtful coverage of more recent tracks e.g. "Rock With U", "Should've Known Better", "The Great Forever".
― Tim F, Friday, 16 April 2021 00:17 (two years ago) link
Agreed.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 April 2021 00:22 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNh8c-yi7bI
― Spottie, Wednesday, 12 January 2022 17:35 (two years ago) link
<3
― Nedlene Grendel as Basenji Holmo (map), Wednesday, 12 January 2022 17:56 (two years ago) link
I HOPE I'M NOT BEING TOO CRASS HERE
. . . but those are cock rings.
(seriously tho, very cool video)
― get shrunk by this funk. (Austin), Wednesday, 12 January 2022 18:10 (two years ago) link
guys the 4-part Janet documentary that just aired on Lifetime is very good. I am constantly pinching myself that she’s sitting there on camera talking about her life SO much vhs footage <3
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 31 January 2022 03:39 (two years ago) link
I missed it but hope to see it at some point. Saw folks commenting elsewhere that she chooses not to discuss various things especially controversial ones.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 31 January 2022 18:31 (two years ago) link
well yeah, she’s calling the shots- she’s so private, there’s no way she’d agree to do it at all unless she had a say on what goes in & what doesnt they address mj somewhat but it’s brief & very much the party line as far as the family is concernexdon’t go in expecting a hbo deep research independent investigation bc its def not that. there’s a reason it’s on Lifetime the fact that she’s saying anything at all about anything is the selling point
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 31 January 2022 20:03 (two years ago) link
Entirely coincidentaly I've had the Control Remixes album on perambulation rotation and have been massively enjoying (among the rest) The Pleasure Principle (Shep Pettibone Long Vocal Mix).
― feed me with your clicks (Noel Emits), Tuesday, 1 February 2022 00:09 (two years ago) link
yessss!i had a whole Janet dance party yesterday after watching all 4 doc episodes :D
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 1 February 2022 01:15 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmZGQ0xT0zg
― Spottie, Friday, 25 February 2022 05:07 (two years ago) link
been vibing to this so hard the past weekhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nT28f3lY-MY
― Stevie D(eux), Friday, 18 March 2022 20:48 (two years ago) link
A really great one.
― Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Friday, 18 March 2022 21:22 (two years ago) link
57 today. Played "Escapade" for a grade 7 class. Either too apathetic to raise a hand (a real possibility with this class) or indicative of how much things have changed: no response to "Anyone know her music?"
― clemenza, Tuesday, 16 May 2023 13:15 (ten months ago) link
I appreciate this specific effort because "Escapade" is godhead, but I'm curious ... do you let your students get cracks at picking media to share?
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Tuesday, 16 May 2023 13:28 (ten months ago) link
What do they think about Madonna? Janet Jackson has an amazing catalog of hits, but she's never been anywhere near the dominant personality of, say, Madonna. Further factor in the fallout from the Super Bowl and subsequent semi exile, and maybe that explains why she has less resonance with really young people?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 16 May 2023 13:29 (ten months ago) link
Genuinely didn't realize that "If" was earmarked as the first single. I think the swap worked in both songs' favor:
that's the way love goes, indeed. pic.twitter.com/TkJIWxBDz4— Mike Servito (@mikeservito) May 15, 2023
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Tuesday, 16 May 2023 13:31 (ten months ago) link
I agree with that
― Tim F, Tuesday, 16 May 2023 13:44 (ten months ago) link
do you let your students get cracks at picking media to share?
Well, they're not my students--I'm just in as a supply. When I had my own class, we did lots of stuff where they picked something for an assignment. But for Today in History, then and now, I pick whatever song/film clip I want to play.
I'm sure most know at least something about Madonna. (I also suspect a few in here know at least something about Janet Jackson. They're just not the most forthcoming class.)
― clemenza, Tuesday, 16 May 2023 13:51 (ten months ago) link
My first choice, by the way, was "Love Will Never Do Without You." Looked at the video...nope.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 16 May 2023 13:54 (ten months ago) link
The irony is the best way to connect them with Janet would probably be through the history of YouTube, but of course that is not appropriate for school.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 16 May 2023 14:08 (ten months ago) link
LET'S GO
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 May 2023 14:10 (ten months ago) link
I appreciate the effort to expose students to film and music that aren't part of their daily diet, but on the other hand if a teacher had shown my 7th grade class a video of, say, Cleo Laine on her 57th birthday I'm not sure any of us would have had a lot of context to respond. But who knows what stimuli will stick with them in the future.
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 16 May 2023 14:18 (ten months ago) link
I get that, obviously. Her last Top 10 single seems to have been 2001. I started teaching in 1991--it would have been like me showing them something from 1969 then.
I don't think the Cleo Laine analogy is particularly apt, though; Janet Jackson has a lot more to do with they music they listen to (if they do...) then Cleo Laine had to do with the music you listened to in grade 7. (At least that's my guess.) Anyway, you either show them or you don't; to me, the exposure is much better than deciding "They won't be interested in this" preemptively. (Also what keeps the job fun for me.)
― clemenza, Tuesday, 16 May 2023 14:41 (ten months ago) link
But who knows what stimuli will stick with them in the future.
That's it. By and large, when I've run into students years later, the two things they'll remember from their year with me are these Today in Historys and going for ice cream at the end of the year. They certainly don't remember me trying to pretend like I knew something about science.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 16 May 2023 14:47 (ten months ago) link
About time!https://www.udiscovermusic.com/news/janet-jackson-janet-album-deluxe-anniversary-editions/
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Thursday, 18 May 2023 21:50 (ten months ago) link
I can't believe I only placed "Throb" 40th on my ballot!
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Friday, 7 July 2023 15:35 (eight months ago) link