If you actively dislike Creedence Clearwater Revival, then I can never respect anything you have to say about anything.

chooglin' requires 18" hi-hats

I'm choogling Japanese I really think so

@rushomancy I've seen a Japanese Steely Dan cover band twice and they are pretty good! lmk if that's your cup of tea.

― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli)

thanks jersey al but steely dan has never really been my thing at all, idk why :shrug:

I just stumbled upon this - Fogerty's official YouTube channel uploaded the entire 1987 broadcast of his set at the Vietnam tribute where he unexpectedly broke his boycott on CCR songs. Great set, and Fogerty even fakes them out at the beginning before laying on the surprise. It's especially nice to see and hear people's reactions and Fogerty acknowledging that once in a while, particularly since the audience is mainly Vietnam vets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2UknGjCkCI

Will watch later, thanks! How does it compare to Live At Woodstock?

You're welcome! Hard to say because I haven't heard their Woodstock set recently. I used to have the bootleg of the soundboard mix, and while it was a good performance (much better than what the band made it out to be), they had already released better performances like that great Oakland show (which was also videotaped and you can find it on YouTube).

FWIW, I think *seeing* these performances rather than just hearing them gives them a lot more appeal - it would be great if the Woodstock show gets released that way too but at least it got a real mix as the soundboard is a little unbalanced.

Actually filmed (in 16mm), not videotaped. You can find better quality YouTube uploads of individual numbers, but here's that 1970 Oakland show:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4H501Eh90M

The announcer says they were all 24 years old at that point except for Tom who was 27. Damn

Man, that's nothing. Check out Buddy Holly when the Crickets were still together - you've got TEENAGERS in that group. Holly was only 22 when he died.

It's crazy how young some of these legends were. (Then of course you have someone like Chuck Berry who was months away from turning 30 when he cut his first single.)

Thanks for posting that film. I don't know if anyone quite had their combination of toughness, laid-backness, and "groove". That guitar in Willy and the Poor Boys has the bite of a chainsaw, but it has the swing of a country song.

The announcer says they were all 24 years old at that point except for Tom who was 27. Damn

Better get this in before Mr. J. Redd does, Emitt Rhodes' career was over when he was 23.

It's of slight interest to me that Creedence and AC/DC share the younger brother on lead guitar/older brother on rhythm guitar dynamic, though of course AC/DC was Malcolm's band and Creedence was John's.

crüt, at first I did not believe you about the 18" hats. Holy shit, those are manhole covers. The energy required to get them to move must be tremendous, and they have a really slushy decay.

(fwiw I only ever play 13" hats, and am regarded as an eccentric)

/The announcer says they were all 24 years old at that point except for Tom who was 27. Damn/

Better get this in before Mr. J. Redd does, Emitt Rhodes' career was over when he was 23.

xx-posting

Richie Valens had a top 10 single and died in that plane crash before he turned 18.

Randy California was 19 when Spirit released their fourth album (and last with the original lineup), Twelve Dreams of Dr. Sardonicus.

Free were all teenagers when the cut A Ton of Sobs, their first album, in '68. IIRC, Andy Fraser was only 15 and Kossoff was 16.

..and, of course, Juan Soto is still 21.

okay so now i think we're starting to approach a point where the accomplishments given as examples aren't exactly impressive no matter how young the musicians were

i was 6 when i ghostwrote "they reminisce over you" man get outta here

Richie Valens had a top 10 single and died in that plane crash before he turned 18.

― Elvis Telecom

Do you mean “La Bamba”? That’s a traditional Mexican song it wasn’t written by him.

"Donna" went Top 10. "La Bamba" wasn't as big at the time, but became a bigger Oldies staple and legacy song.

"La Bamba" was the b-side to "Donna" which went to #2.

Randy California was 19 when Spirit released their fourth album (and last with the original lineup), Twelve Dreams of Dr. Sardonicus.

― aphoristical, Wednesday, August 5, 2020 8:57 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

goddamn!

I guess to tie this thread together a little, the opening guitar of "Centerfield" pays enormous homage to Valens' arrangement of "La Bamba".

Oh yeah!

Yeah Centerfield intro is 100% La Bamba. Has Fogerty mentioned it or credited it as inspiration?

Huh had no idea Donna was Valens’ popular song. Not a fan of that style of ballads. For me La Bamba and Come On Let’s Go are the ones I’d keep.

Is it me or did people in the 40’s/50’s aged worse? Valens looks more like a 30 year old than a 17 year old in every late picture I’ve seen of him.

Is it me or did people in the 40’s/50’s aged worse? Valens looks more like a 30 year old than a 17 year old in every late picture I’ve seen of him.

I always take this phenomenon to be that we’re just used to seeing folks with this general style and demeanor old, because we keep some of the styles of our youth as we age.

That said, for the last few decades, a lot of folks look 30ish well into their 40s, whereas most were getting haggard and jowly with the tobacco, disease, diet and work conditions of the past.

Big Bopper was actually 11 years old. Times were tough back then,

wasn't there a thread about this ? or something online somewhere ? about how people in the '40s and '50s always seemed to look run-down and haggard by 35

https://www.boredpanda.com/past-young-people-look-older/

This one?

yeah, i think that's it !

pic.twitter.com/XFCwiOadr2

— John Fogerty (@John_Fogerty) October 16, 2020

too cool. John is the man

New documentary along with rediscovered and fully restored footage of the Royal Albert Hall concert.

yesssssssss

xpost with Jeffs vs. Bills

EXCLUSIVE: Production is underway on a concert documentary about legendary rock band Creedence Clearwater Revival, built around one-of-a-kind performance footage of CCR that sat in a London vault for five decades.

Academy Award-winning actor Jeff Bridges will narrate Travelin’ Band: Creedence Clearwater Revival at the Royal Albert Hall, a production of Craft Recordings, Concord Originals and Marathan Films. Bob Smeaton, the filmmaker behind Grammy-winning documentaries on The Beatles and Jimi Hendrix, is directing the Creedence doc.

...

"What a band! Love listenin’ to ‘em, love playin’ Fogerty’s tunes,” Bridges said. “They’re certainly favorites of mine. Creedence, yeah, man.”

Wouldn't hold out much hope for the tape deck, though.

hell yeah, the setlist for the real royal albert hall 1970 performance (there was a live release by CCR called the same, later realized it was oakland, lol)

Born on the Bayou
Green River
Tombstone Shadow
Travelin' Band
Fortunate Son
Commotion
Midnight Special
Bad Moon Rising
Proud Mary
Night Time Is the Right Time
Good Golly Miss Molly
Keep On Chooglin'

Wouldn't hold out much hope for the tape deck, though.

Revisited Green River and Cosmo's Factory and Live at Woodstock this week. These guys really were incredible.

my favorite american rock band (i think)

pop band? i'm horrible at genres. my favorite group of american people standing on stage making music

The Oakland show is great, I hope they restore that and put it out on DVD or Blu-ray. Maybe as a bonus feature for the doc?

My '08 Voice review of the 40th Anniversary series of expanded reissues is archived here:
http://myvil.blogspot.com/2016/06/out-my-front-door.html

Only way to improve on that set list is to include walk on water > effigy > someday never comes, which the allmans were known to include in their late 70s sets

i would take that over the covers, but one thing that's crazy about 1970 CCR is that they could make a setlist with absolutely any of their songs and it would be bonkers good. similar to my other favorite american band (oh god, i'm later going to remember a bunch and feel bad) REM, in the mid-80s. there is no song they could pick that would be bad

REM was a great band to see live in the mid 80s. Their shows had a very spontaneous feel to them, and Stipe was endearingly weird.

I hear their records now and I really dig how well they sound. Got to have some of the same studio rooms and people that did all that jazz and other records on Fantasy. Early Dead would have been awesome recorded so well, but they don't sound CCR good in the studio - production wise that is.

It's kind of wild that Fantasy didn't have that many (or any?) other Rock bands on their roster during CCR's heyday.