ah very cool! I didn't know this was on deck for November. you're probably right about any momentum being spoiled though.
― the burrito that defined a generation, Friday, 31 July 2020 15:39 (three years ago) link
Lmao this thread rules
Jaw on the floor listening to SD planning commissioner @mcboomhower light up a neighborhood group opposing a new duplex. "When you say 'pride of ownership' that means 'we don't want renters. If you can't afford to buy in our lovely little neighborhood, we don't want you here.'"— Kenneth Stahl π (@kookie13) July 31, 2020
― π ππ’π¨ (caek), Saturday, 1 August 2020 16:37 (three years ago) link
awesomeneed more of this
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 1 August 2020 17:09 (three years ago) link
they are opposing -- a duplex -- good grief.
meanwhile, I get fb ads for houses and real estate a lot, and I got one yesterday advertising a duplex that is "planned to be vacant" at 9th and Wood in West Oakland. ... Later that evening I had to drop stuff in the mail at the main post office a few blocks away from said address, so I ended up driving by this spot. ... I had forgotten the exact character of 9th and Wood and the few blocks up/down from it ... but when I drove by, I was like, OH SHIIIT YEAH the corner of 8th and Wood is where the liquor store is where everyone hangs out across the street -- some hanging, some slinging ... and the block of 9th and Wood is the frequent site of stuffed animal infused altars to victims of "gun violence" ... and I forget what my point is here, but, yeah, duplexes ... does the neighborhood group in SD believe that the inherent nature of "the duplex" will transplant the people and problems of 9th and Wood in West Oakland to their neighborhood??
― sarahell, Saturday, 1 August 2020 17:59 (three years ago) link
booming comment from boomhower! stickin it to the NIMBYs in the name of strict municipal code interpretation
as it happens I'm working on a fancy mile-long grade-separated bike lane construction project that will be going to that very same La Jolla community planning group for approval in about six months. by the sound of it he may not be as supportive as he is for this duplex, since the construction of the bike lane involves multiple deviations from the municipal code for the construction of a retaining wall and a quarter acre of wetland impacts resulting from having to widen the road itself to meet Caltrans code for the installation of a bike lane!
no big deal if the community planning group rejects it, we've only spent a few years/millions designing it already
― the burrito that defined a generation, Saturday, 1 August 2020 18:25 (three years ago) link
Regarding Prop 13:
Prior to 1978, corporate landowners paid about two-thirds of statewide property tax revenues; homeowners paid about one-third. Proposition 13 flipped that equation to where homeowners paid two-thirds and corporations one-third.
Read more here: https://www.sanluisobispo.com/opinion/readers-opinion/article156302674.html#storylink=cpy
― locked in a death spiral of vindictive gatekeeping (viborg), Saturday, 1 August 2020 18:37 (three years ago) link
xp - CA muni code is impressively convoluted and in some cases requires a lot of mental gymnastics to try and accommodate all the provisions in all the separate code chapters! ... A few months ago I spent quality time trying to figure out what exactly are the code requirements for live/work housing ... geez. But I am definitely rooting for you, burrito!! I haven't spent much time in that area of SD, but your project sounds super necessary and useful, considering the terrain and sprawl
― sarahell, Saturday, 1 August 2020 18:52 (three years ago) link
appreciate the rooting, and it is a good project. mostly. unless you start thinking about other ways the money could be spent. but that's none of my business
CA muni code is impressively convoluted
tell me about it!
https://i.imgur.com/n1lLLM8.png
― the burrito that defined a generation, Saturday, 1 August 2020 19:06 (three years ago) link
Okay, I'm dying to know ... what does Section 143.0150 say?!!!!!!
― sarahell, Saturday, 1 August 2020 19:08 (three years ago) link
*popcorn.gif*
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 20:38 (three years ago) link
any odds/betting sites have this action?
Β§143.0150 Deviations from Environmentally Sensitive Lands RegulationsPlans submitted in accordance with this section shall, to the maximum extent feasible,comply with the regulations of this division. If a proposed development does notcomply with all applicable development regulations of this division and a deviation isrequested as indicated in Table 143-01A, the decision maker may approve,conditionally approve, or deny the proposed Site Development Permit in accordancewith the following:(a) Deviations from the regulations of this division may be granted only if thedecision maker makes the findings in Section 126.0504(c).(b) Deviations from the Supplemental Regulations for Special Flood HazardAreas in Section 143.0146 may be granted only if the decision maker makesthe findings in Section 126.0504(d).(c) Within the Coastal Overlay Zone, deviations from the EnvironmentallySensitive Lands Regulations may be granted only if the decision maker makesthe findings in Section 126.0708.(d) Deviations to the wetland regulations in Section 143.0141(b) shall not begranted unless the development is located outside of the Coastal Overlay Zoneand qualifies to be processed as one of the three options set forth in thefollowing regulations and in accordance with the Biology Guidelines in theLand Development Manual:(1) Essential Public Projects Option(A) A deviation may only be requested for an Essential PublicProject where no feasible alternative exists that would avoidimpacts to wetlands.(B) For the purpose of this section, Essential Public Projects shallinclude:(i) Any public project identified in an adopted land useplan or implementing document and identified on theEssential Public Projects List adopted by ResolutionNo. R-307377 as Appendix III to the BiologyGuidelines; orCh. Art. Div.14 3 1 47San Diego Municipal Code Chapter 14: General Regulations(2-2020)(ii) Linear infrastructure, including but not limited to majorroads and land use plan circulation element roads andfacilities including bike lanes, water and sewerpipelines including appurtenances, and stormwaterconveyance systems including appurtenances; or(iii) Maintenance of existing public infrastructure; or(iv) State and federally mandated projects.(2) Economic Viability OptionA deviation may be requested to preserve economically viable use of aproperty that would otherwise be deprived by a strict application of theregulations. Such a deviation shall be the minimum necessary toachieve economically viable use of the property and shall avoidwetland resources to the maximum extent practicable.(3) Biologically Superior Option(A) A deviation may be requested to achieve a superior biologicalresult which would provide long term biological benefit and anet increase in quality and viability (functions and value),relative to existing conditions or the project originallyproposed by the applicant, and long term biological benefit.(B) Wetland resources that would be impacted by the project shallbe demonstrated to be of low biological quality.(Amended 4-22-2002 by O-19051 N.S.; effective 10-8-2002.)(Amended 5-7-2012 by O-20161 N.S.; effective 6-6-2012.)(Amended 2-9-2018 by O-20899 N.S.; effective 3-11-2018.)
― Stab Delimited (sarahell), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 20:43 (three years ago) link
does anyone want to learn about affordable housing density bonus regulations?
― Stab Delimited (sarahell), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 20:45 (three years ago) link
If Kamala Harris is elected vice president, Gavin Newsom gets to appoint a new California senator. Who could it be? β¦@philwillonβ© https://t.co/SFcaqRvaWl— Laura J. Nelson π¦ (@laura_nelson) August 11, 2020
― π ππ’π¨ (caek), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 20:51 (three years ago) link
Newsom himself!
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 20:51 (three years ago) link
he wants to be president
― π ππ’π¨ (caek), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 20:52 (three years ago) link
yeah no way is Gavin gonna give up being governor to be a senator ...
― sarahell, Tuesday, 11 August 2020 20:55 (three years ago) link
I think it's gonna be either:
SchiffLeePorterBreedor Newsom
Need some oddsmakers to chime in!
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 20:58 (three years ago) link
i guess it's politically impossible for him to pick the person who is in some ways next in line by virtue of his strong performance in the runoff with feinstein, i.e. kevin de leon because, well, he tried to primary feinstein.
― π ππ’π¨ (caek), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 20:59 (three years ago) link
it better not be garcetti
― π ππ’π¨ (caek), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 21:01 (three years ago) link
it's going to be that turd schiff isn't it
― π ππ’π¨ (caek), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 21:05 (three years ago) link
what about the woman who lost to Harris in the election -- it was super close?
though my preference would be Libby Schaaf -- take my mayor ... please!
― sarahell, Tuesday, 11 August 2020 21:07 (three years ago) link
though if he picks Barbara Lee, then maybe we can "upgrade" one of our less appealing City Council members ... oh Lynette G-M ... please seek higher office.
― sarahell, Tuesday, 11 August 2020 21:09 (three years ago) link
though it would be "hilarious" if Gavin chose his patron, Willie Brown ...
― sarahell, Tuesday, 11 August 2020 21:11 (three years ago) link
lol
Given that Uber rides have cratered during the pandemic, I wonder if people will care about this threat as much as they would have, say, a year ago https://t.co/MtQrfcUYdI— Laura J. Nelson π¦ (@laura_nelson) August 12, 2020
― π ππ’π¨ (caek), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 16:49 (three years ago) link
iirc spending (almost entirely from uber/lyft/doordash etc.) on the AB5 ballot measure is ~$110m. spending on prop 15 (the actual big deal about split roll property tax) is like 10% of that. to zuck's credit, almost all the pro-prop 15 money comes from his foundation.
― π ππ’π¨ (caek), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 16:52 (three years ago) link
Anyway I nominate caek to be our senator.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 August 2020 16:57 (three years ago) link
Haha thank u I hereby repeal proposition 13 and make it illegal to enforce βno soccerβ rules at public parks.For anyone enjoying the rolling blackout drama, the iso today app is very well done!
― π ππ’π¨ (caek), Wednesday, 19 August 2020 01:58 (three years ago) link
The stakes are too high to sit out this election. This November we will put #SchoolsAndCommunitiesFirst by voting #YesOn15. Thank you @JoeBiden for being an early champion of #YesOn15! pic.twitter.com/0q7kHKj5Pu— Yes on Prop 15! (Schools & Communities First) (@Schools1stCA) August 21, 2020
you know who hasn't endorsed prop 15? the governor.
― π ππ’π¨ (caek), Friday, 21 August 2020 05:22 (three years ago) link
here are my ballot measure endorsements if you want to vote the caek slate
15: eliminate part of california's insane, unique property tax break, yes16: repeal law banning affirmative action, yes17: allow people on parole to vote, yes18: allow people who will be 18 years old by general to vote in primary, yes20: classify more crimes as felonies, collect more DNA, no21: allow more local rent control, yes22: undo law that made uber/lyft/etc. drivers employees, no24: more privacy online, yes25: replace cash bail (which sucks) with (algorithmic?) risk assesements (which also suck, but maybe a bit less), yes
no opinion: 14 (stem cell money), 23 (dialysis clinics), 19 (technical thing about inheritance of property tax breaks that bundles in some weird stuff about fires and honestly seems kind of weird given who is supporting it)
― π ππ’π¨ (caek), Friday, 21 August 2020 05:28 (three years ago) link
Iβd vote yes on 19 I think.
― sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Friday, 21 August 2020 06:07 (three years ago) link
so why is Lyft pulling out now when their ballot measure hasn't even been decided?
― sarahell, Friday, 21 August 2020 18:18 (three years ago) link
Theyβre not. They got a stay in court on ab5 enforcement yesterday.
― π ππ’π¨ (caek), Friday, 21 August 2020 19:43 (three years ago) link
meanwhile Doordash is sending out "sympathize with us" emails about how horrible it is that the mean state wants them to classify their workers as employees
― sarahell, Friday, 21 August 2020 19:45 (three years ago) link
Are absentee ballots mailed out yet?
― Ruth Bae Ginsburg (Leee), Friday, 21 August 2020 22:41 (three years ago) link
I havenβt seen any yet
― π ππ’π¨ (caek), Friday, 21 August 2020 23:05 (three years ago) link
Looking forward to reminding these people that trump said the quiet part out loud for them
Here, a liberal homeowner and retired teacher in San Jose who converted a 1930s triplex into a single-family home, grapples with his stance on single-family zoning and President Trump's embrace of it for exclusionary reasons https://t.co/lrlR41Y7Tp pic.twitter.com/XM6Lm0oE7T— Liam Dillon (@dillonliam) August 21, 2020
― π ππ’π¨ (caek), Saturday, 22 August 2020 13:52 (three years ago) link
usual shitty legislation under deadline at the end of the session last night, and also this. great job everybody.
I wrote about how @BuffyWicks brought her 1-month-old baby to the Assembly floor after being denied a proxy vote request because she wasn't considered high risk for coronavirus, as her Republican colleagues next door voted from home. https://t.co/fe39s61mYV— Mackenzie Mays (@MackenzieMays) September 1, 2020
― π ππ’π¨ (caek), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 18:01 (three years ago) link
damn, and she didn't even have one of those organic baby chest wraps that are de rigeur with her constituents (which also include Berkeley, and only part of Oakland fyi) ... she is really making a point there ... good job, Buffy!
also this:https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/08/28/editorial-prop-15-wont-fix-biggest-california-property-tax-problem/
― sarahell, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 19:15 (three years ago) link
the editorial's argument is kinda specious tbh, even to me, who generally ends up in arguments here on ilx as the "advocate for small businesses" lol.
One thing that is unclear to me, is whether this affects what the state refers to as investment property. For example, where does residential rental property (e.g. large apartment buildings) fall on the split-roll? Do they stay with the unaffected owner-occupied houses because they are residences, or ...?
― sarahell, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 19:35 (three years ago) link
sarahell, what do you disagree with from the editorial? this makes sense to me: In short, the big problem is not the disparity between residential and other types of property. Itβs the disparity between the taxes paid by long-time property owners and those who purchased recently β an inequity thatβs found for both residential and commercial properties.
― lukas, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 19:49 (three years ago) link
that article is full of concern trolling. vote yes on prop 15 to begin to chip away at prop 13.
― π ππ’π¨ (caek), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 20:11 (three years ago) link
Californiaβs property tax system is a mess. Proposition 15, the βsplit rollβ measure on the Nov. 3 ballot, attempts to fix it. Unfortunately, it only makes matters worse.
I skimmed, so I might have missed it, but there is not even a claim, much less any evidence that it will "make matters worse" than the status quo in the article.
― π ππ’π¨ (caek), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 20:13 (three years ago) link
I disagree with its conclusion that people should vote no on 15, for one thing.
Also, the rationale that the brunt of the increase will fall on small business owners thus we should vote no. It's the same type of argument as "we should not waive rents during Covid because of the hypothetical poor little old ladies that rent out the family home". They provide no data to back up how much of the increase would affect small business owners (potentially), and how much would be large real estate companies passing through property tax increases to large retail conglomerates or other major corporations. ... Like, would you feel bad if large corporations had to pay more in property taxes to the state of California?
The editorial spends a bunch of time arguing about the share of property taxes paid by homeowners vs. the proportion of residential real estate to commercial ... which is kinda missing the point. If owners of commercial property were to pay more, it is possible that fewer special initiatives would be required that increase property taxes on homeowners. Yeah, I know people can (and will) take the cynical opinion that local jurisdictions will still take every opportunity to increase property taxes in order to fund government bloat and reward government inefficiency, corruption, and incompetence (though mostly on FB groups and not on ilx).
― sarahell, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 20:14 (three years ago) link
that article is full of concern trolling.
in short, yes, otm.
it is so thin that my suspicious is that is intentional FUD
― π ππ’π¨ (caek), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 20:16 (three years ago) link
*suspicion
― π ππ’π¨ (caek), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 20:17 (three years ago) link
also, the concern trolling is even more troll-y as there are provisions that support small businesses as well as recent legislation (maybe this is just at local levels and not statewide) that puts small businesses into the protected category for covid related eviction moratoriums ...
― sarahell, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 20:18 (three years ago) link
ah, makes sense.
― lukas, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 20:19 (three years ago) link
β π ππ’π¨ (caek), Tuesday, September 1, 2020 1:16 PM (two minutes ago)
Yeah -- it totally reads that way. Like, it makes me suspect this was ghost-written by some commercial property owners lobbyists. The Mercury/EB Times has actually done some great reporting and supported "my people" ... so this was super disappointing. It does remind me of the editorial voice/stance of the paper when I was growing up in the 1980s though.
― sarahell, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 20:21 (three years ago) link