damn.
― mark e, Thursday, 30 July 2020 18:08 (three years ago) link
Good man, Terry.
― Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Thursday, 30 July 2020 18:14 (three years ago) link
other than the lawsuit above, what exactly went down between them?
Anyway, I'm glad I saw her a few years back with ACR. She was fantastic.
― akm, Thursday, 30 July 2020 21:54 (three years ago) link
TC doesnae miss. Boaby is an arse of a man.
― Temporary Erogenous Zone (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 30 July 2020 22:30 (three years ago) link
I prefer my Boaby.
(xp) This lawsuit seems more than enough to sour relationships.
― Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Thursday, 30 July 2020 22:34 (three years ago) link
Reading the Terry Christian thread, it seems that she was uncredited on an album and was dismissed as a backing singer (after having seemed part of the band).
― djh, Thursday, 30 July 2020 22:40 (three years ago) link
Yes, there's a screenshot of a tweet from her where she mentions a (legal, I assume) letter to her where her contributions were described as 'insignificant'.
― Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Thursday, 30 July 2020 22:47 (three years ago) link
wow, that's so horrible.
― Gerneten-flüken cake (jed_), Thursday, 30 July 2020 22:50 (three years ago) link
Sueing the only actual black person associated with the band, the band whose singer never stops harping on about how much he uniquely loves black music - great look, Bob!
― Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Thursday, 30 July 2020 23:02 (three years ago) link
Ugh. She was such a significant part of the band from a listener's perspective at the time, and it seems especially vicious to be so dismissive recently, when the band has had a female bass player as a presumably permanent member for ages
― Steppin' RZA (sic), Thursday, 30 July 2020 23:11 (three years ago) link
^ oh lol - per wikipedia, Simone Butler, who replaced Debbie Googe, is marked as "2012–28/07/2020"
hmmm
― Steppin' RZA (sic), Thursday, 30 July 2020 23:19 (three years ago) link
When a 15 second clip says it all. I’ll just leave this here....... pic.twitter.com/UoaQpwo8ih— Natalie-Eve Williams (@natalieeveradio) August 18, 2020
― chonky floof (groovypanda), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 08:37 (three years ago) link
This band's me too moment is way, way, waaaaaaaay overdue, but...
I'm slowly coming to realise that everything that teenage me loved and raved about this group was nothing to do with the floppy pretty-boy abuser frontman.
Oh, feelings, you are complicated.
― Extractor Fan (Branwell with an N), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 08:51 (three years ago) link
God he looks like such an absurd tool with his clapping/jumping jack moves, and not in a good way. There will be a special part of hell for boab where he has to eat his ss badge and re-live every toe-curlingly embarrassing part of his life again with added self-awareness of what an absolute risible (not in a good way) fool he is. Hopefully he is in that hell now!
― calzino, Tuesday, 18 August 2020 10:34 (three years ago) link
I probably said this way, way upthread somewhere, but the last time of the three I saw them -- this would have been Evil Heat days -- when Bobby ambled out on stage there were cheers and all but when Mani appeared that tore the roof off, and he was loving it. Bobby, less so.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 18 August 2020 15:41 (three years ago) link
Mani’s cameo in 24 Hour Party People got loud applause at the Laemmle Santa Monica screening room I saw it in. People love him.
― beamish13, Tuesday, 18 August 2020 15:49 (three years ago) link
I don't know much about Bobby's musical contributions but it's really really easy to imagine them improved with a different front person. or none at all.
― unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 15:55 (three years ago) link
I don't know much about Bobby's musical contributions
Shows up at Andrew Innes' house with a dozen or so LPs in a crate, plays them for him, says, "That's the next album - let me know when you've got something" and vanishes again, would be my guess...
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 16:31 (three years ago) link
Lawrence from Felt apparently designed the sleeve for the Come Together single. At least that's what some stranger on Facebook said and I'm inclined to believe them.
― henry s, Tuesday, 18 August 2020 17:35 (three years ago) link
tis true
2nd hit. Released summer 1990. Sleeve art by Lawrence from Felt.https://t.co/oSDOJf7PSo pic.twitter.com/zHW9oRunbb— Primal Scream (@ScreamOfficial) January 16, 2016
― chonky floof (groovypanda), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 17:53 (three years ago) link
yep it has his "artwork by shanghai packaging company" logo on it.
― visiting, Tuesday, 18 August 2020 18:10 (three years ago) link
Primal Scream and Dexys Midnight Runners have released a protest song today:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REx_JVD3-20
― Bee OK, Friday, 4 November 2022 23:27 (one year ago) link
Sounds like a Pogues song.
― Bee OK, Friday, 4 November 2022 23:28 (one year ago) link
The personal statement submitted by Martin Duffy's son as evidence at his father's inquest doesn't make Primal Scream sound good at all.
http://www.dafts.co.uk/louieduffystatement.pdf
― Portsmouth Bubblejet, Wednesday, 7 June 2023 18:41 (nine months ago) link
Jesus, that’s a shocking read.
― Dan Worsley, Wednesday, 7 June 2023 18:58 (nine months ago) link
:(
― Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Wednesday, 7 June 2023 19:03 (nine months ago) link
Boab treated Denise Johnson like shit and diminished the value of her musical contributions as well and stuff about it came out after her passing. I don't listen to them but it seems quite clear he doesn't like paying people he works with and is a shit person to work with.
― calzino, Wednesday, 7 June 2023 19:21 (nine months ago) link
So much for socialism, eh Bobby?
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Wednesday, 7 June 2023 19:22 (nine months ago) link
heartbreaking
― brimstead, Wednesday, 7 June 2023 19:23 (nine months ago) link
And right on the day an archival collection of the first singles and radio sessions is announced too.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 June 2023 19:45 (nine months ago) link
This is heartbreaking.
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 7 June 2023 19:51 (nine months ago) link
jfc what an absolute cunt
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 7 June 2023 20:25 (nine months ago) link
that was rough
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 7 June 2023 21:22 (nine months ago) link
Today's Daily Record front page leads on Primal Scream’s keyboard player Martin Duffy's son telling an inquest his dad died penniless after the band cut him out of a £5million deal #ScotPapers pic.twitter.com/JOMcIo4xNi— The Daily Record (@Daily_Record) June 7, 2023
― rincton monkspoon (NickB), Wednesday, 7 June 2023 22:30 (nine months ago) link
Gutted for Duffy, and respect for his son in speaking up.
― assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 7 June 2023 23:05 (nine months ago) link
What a dick, money does some strange things to people.
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 7 June 2023 23:49 (nine months ago) link
I'm gonna tell the truth, the truth about youTruth about you, you never been true
― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 8 June 2023 01:48 (nine months ago) link
A major prat.
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Thursday, 8 June 2023 01:49 (nine months ago) link
Ironic given that he's been entirely dependent on the musicians he's worked with his entire career, from Jim Beattie onwards.
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 June 2023 06:35 (nine months ago) link
such a mediocrity is always going to be reliant on more talented musicians, which makes it even worse that he had a long-standing band member living on scraps while he was getting rich. What a dick.
― calzino, Thursday, 8 June 2023 08:13 (nine months ago) link
tbf he probably is entirely responsible for their scintillating lyrics
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 June 2023 08:20 (nine months ago) link
remember when i got back from the toilet at the king and queen pub in primrose hill and he’d just sat down next to my gf and was chatting her up. never forgiven.
― Fizzles, Thursday, 8 June 2023 08:23 (nine months ago) link
christ what an awful story
given that everyone apart from innes and gillespie seem to have been hired hands for a while i have to wonder if they pulled something similar with throb before he died
― rick semper moranis (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 8 June 2023 08:25 (nine months ago) link
at least Frank Zappa didn't pretend to be a socialist and would speak completely openly about not giving his band a penny of the royalties. I don't particularly like him either, though at least it was amusing listening to him talking about how his band members don't deserve shit in a bbc interview!
― calzino, Thursday, 8 June 2023 08:36 (nine months ago) link
From February 2021..
Martin: "I'm English, Bobby."Boab: "Ur ye? Who ur you again?"Martin: "Martin Duffy? Keyboards? I've been in the band for 30 years?"Boab: "'zat a fact? (to Andrew) Here, whit's wi' aw these English cunts in the band, Andra? It's like we're no' even a Scottish band anymair!"
Boab: "Ur ye? Who ur you again?"
Martin: "Martin Duffy? Keyboards? I've been in the band for 30 years?"
Boab: "'zat a fact? (to Andrew) Here, whit's wi' aw these English cunts in the band, Andra? It's like we're no' even a Scottish band anymair!"
Many a true word spoken on jest etc
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 June 2023 09:16 (nine months ago) link
I saw PS back in the late 80s supporting the Butthole Surfers. They were completely fucking abominable, I always wondered how they attained the level of mild competence they later displayed and I'd guess that the subsequent addition of Martin Duffy played a large part in that. As noted above, at least Zappa was honest about treating everyone around him like shit and didn't try to pass himself off as a socialist!
― just the sound of four guys smelting in a room (Matt #2), Thursday, 8 June 2023 09:24 (nine months ago) link
truly the brewdog of music
― rincton monkspoon (NickB), Thursday, 8 June 2023 11:14 (nine months ago) link
What was that one album called - Cash In But Don't Pay Out?
― rincton monkspoon (NickB), Thursday, 8 June 2023 11:17 (nine months ago) link
some people on Twitter are hinting that they treated Throb the same way - and reading his Wikipedia page there are some shocking similarities.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Young_(musician)
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 8 June 2023 11:58 (nine months ago) link
Have to wonder what sort of deal Kevin Shields had.
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 8 June 2023 11:59 (nine months ago) link