C or D: Emitt Rhodes?

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Dada(ismus) posted on this very thread the other day. Tom D.

Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 30 July 2020 17:36 (three years ago) link

oh wow. that explains so much. love dada / tom's posts

budo jeru, Thursday, 30 July 2020 17:37 (three years ago) link

Re. his lyrics, I agree – one of my favorite tunes of his has always been “Live Til You Die,” but it was only this week that I really listened to the lyrics, poss. with an eye toward his innate unhappiness. In retrospect they feel a bit like him shouting into the abyss:

Wish NTI would come back and type in the lyrics to "Ever Find Yourself Running," which are hitting me right now.

Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 30 July 2020 19:29 (three years ago) link

It's not typing! Google is my co-pilot:

Ever find yourself running, running, running away
Ever find yourself hiding from the things that you feel
Ever hear yourself crying, crying, crying to someone
Won't you look down from Heaven, won't you prove you are real?
Ever lose yourself searching, searching, searching in darkness
With your questions unanswered, never knowing the truth
Ever feel yourself dying, dying, dying a slow death
Heavy laden with burdens that are stealing your youth
Ever find yourself running, running, running away
Ever find yourself hiding from the things that you feel
Ever find yourself running?

And I would agree ... one of the things I love about his lyrics is that they convey really heavy emotions and thoughts with an economy of vocabulary. So when you come across a couplet like "Heavy laden with burdens that are stealing your youth" you almost catch yourself to make sure you heard it right.

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 30 July 2020 21:30 (three years ago) link

Yes indeed.

Wonder which Beatles song(s) he actually sang with The Palace Guard. You see or hear "Michelle," "Yesterday," "Norwegian Wood" and "We Can Work It Out." The last one seems to have be mentioned that enough I'm inclined to believe it.

Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 30 July 2020 22:01 (three years ago) link

If you don't like Bim, budo jeru, then you probably won't like this version of "Ever Find Yourself Running," by - wait for it - Marriage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uxorx0OLnzU

Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 30 July 2020 22:30 (three years ago) link

That was great. Thanks for sharing!

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 31 July 2020 03:37 (three years ago) link

Yeah, that was really an A+ version of the classic Emitt encounter we've come to expect.

Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 31 July 2020 04:05 (three years ago) link

I finally learned that The Merry-Go-Round had a couple of bass players, that Rick Dey replaced Bill Rinehart. I guess I think I knew Joel Larson came and went and there was another drummer at one point, couldn't tell you his name though.

Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 31 July 2020 04:15 (three years ago) link

xxpost Great piece! Thanks for sharing it.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 31 July 2020 08:40 (three years ago) link

Haven’t giving you anything in almost twenty-four hours so here is this little tidbit I have been saving

Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 1 August 2020 02:17 (three years ago) link

I was afraid of that, didn’t quite work on the phone. Hang on a sec, please.

Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 1 August 2020 02:18 (three years ago) link

Guys, come on over to my new thread

Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 1 August 2020 22:36 (three years ago) link

Take us to lunch first.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 1 August 2020 23:25 (three years ago) link

Ha!

Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 1 August 2020 23:34 (three years ago) link

There is a Mexican restaurant up the block that makes a good iced margarita with a nice view of the Empire State Building from the sidewalk seating that I think you will like.

Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 1 August 2020 23:39 (three years ago) link

Feel like maybe NTI should give the last album another chance or two. Despite the deepening of the voice, the divorce discussion and the different production, underneath it all there is still his strong melodic sense.

Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 2 August 2020 02:16 (three years ago) link

In my mind “Isn’t It So” is getting mixed up with “Nobody Knows” by the Raspberries. Come to think of it, why isn’t Tim Ellison on this thread?

Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 2 August 2020 02:18 (three years ago) link

I’ll def. give it another chance – I hadn’t realized this but the supporting cast alone is insane (Hoffs, most of Jellyfish, Aimee Mann – according to a review I saw).

Isn’t It So finally clicked with me a week or so ago – the version I have on the Listen, Listen comp (recorded in 1980) has some questionable sax but a great chorus, and kind of suggests an alternate career as an MOR hitmaker. But the version on Rainbow Ends is nice as well, the strings give it a sadder, more elegiac feel.

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 2 August 2020 03:36 (three years ago) link

Yes, those folks are all on there, although sometimes hard to pick them out of thie mix.

This version, I assume.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jhn_uXhtOn0
Yes, I can see how the sax would be pretty off-putting.

Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 2 August 2020 03:43 (three years ago) link

But the vocal is excellent.

Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 2 August 2020 03:46 (three years ago) link

Some more stuff from that same period, apparently. Seems to be for some Elektra project, maybe. These really don't sit well with me although the second never reappeared in any other form as far as I know so may be worth giving a try.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wG97BYSQ0JQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWIriVsDRXg

Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 2 August 2020 23:24 (three years ago) link

Or this. Think this stuff has already been mentioned upthread.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPxbMaXOdoY

Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 2 August 2020 23:26 (three years ago) link

This seems an improvement.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzs7Crv_3bM

Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 2 August 2020 23:27 (three years ago) link

Done a decade or two later.

Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 2 August 2020 23:33 (three years ago) link

Oh wow I’m loving the “all synths” Emitt Rhodes. Really cool.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 3 August 2020 06:13 (three years ago) link

Radio Moskow interview from Thanksgiving 2011. Interview starts about minute 70, music a few minutes before, maybe minute 67. https://echo.msk.ru/sounds/833165.html

Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 12:28 (three years ago) link

Lasts about ten minutes. He's in good spirits.

Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 12:40 (three years ago) link

Some serious ping-pong stereo on The Merry-Go-Round album, thought my earphones were broken for a moment.

Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 13:31 (three years ago) link

As I converge upon the heat death of this thread, remarking that the versions of “You’re A Very Lovely Woman” on The Merry-Go-Round and on the, um zeroth solo album are exactly the same but one is maybe thirty seconds longer.

Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 15:17 (three years ago) link

Some more stuff from that same period, apparently. Seems to be for some Elektra project, maybe. These really don't sit well with me although the second never reappeared in any other form as far as I know so may be worth giving a try.
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I haven’t listened to these yet and I may be mixing things up with another story but my memory was that Emitt recorded three songs for an album in 1980 bc an A&R guy is an executive signed and loved him and when the guy got canned the album got shelved.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 5 August 2020 06:24 (three years ago) link

I read something similar. I even heard that two of the three songs were "Isn't It So" and "More Than A Smile Will Do."

Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 5 August 2020 11:59 (three years ago) link

Finally listened to these. The "all synths" Emitt Rhodes is really more like Steely Emitt -- jazzy chords and melodies and heavy, er, Rhodes. "Isn't It So" is probably the best of the lot.

Here's a recent-ish interview that isn't online but the preview is: https://tapeop.com/interviews/33/emitt-rhodes/. Might be pretty interesting.

I'm finally putting on Farewell to Paradise ... will report back but I like some of the Mellotron stuff in the first few tracks.

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 6 August 2020 20:16 (three years ago) link

You have to subscribe to Tape Op to get the rest of that interview (and to find out where they ate).

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 6 August 2020 20:22 (three years ago) link

Speaking of "Steely Emitt", Gary Kato mentioned in the liners to the Merry Go Round comp that in the late '80s his band Bullet backed Rhodes on some "Steely Dan-quality" demos of new compositions.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 6 August 2020 20:26 (three years ago) link

Can't believe this only emerged within the last several hours. Jackie De Shannon singing "Live Till You DIe" - recorded at American Studios! Yet another dot to connect in my Arthur Alexander, um, "Theory."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMPUQECIiIM

Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 7 August 2020 14:16 (three years ago) link

Guess this stuff lay in the vaults until two years ago, Damn you, Emitt!
https://jazzchill.blogspot.com/2018/04/jackie-deshannon-stone-cold-soulthe.html

Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 7 August 2020 14:26 (three years ago) link

That cover came out as a bonus on the RPM reissue of Jackie’s “Songs” fifteen years ago or so, for what it’s worth.

Tim, Friday, 7 August 2020 17:53 (three years ago) link

Thanks. Saw that a couple of, um, songs, from that session made it onto Songs, maybe they were even re-recorded, didn't know about bonus track reissues in the interim.

Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 7 August 2020 17:56 (three years ago) link

So do you guys know where that house is on the self-titled cover?

Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 8 August 2020 13:16 (three years ago) link

Also, um, one of Emitt's ex-wives seems to be a member of the Fan Forum.

Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 8 August 2020 14:53 (three years ago) link

Definitely her.

Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 8 August 2020 15:05 (three years ago) link

that's interesting and also weird. will she tell her story ? will the fans be kind to her ?

the woman who took the photograph on the jackie deshannon album cover was married to composer teiji ito, maya deren's widower, and was the administrator of the deren estate until her death in 1999:

https://www.nytimes.com/1999/01/17/classified/paid-notice-deaths-ito-cherel-winett.html

budo jeru, Saturday, 8 August 2020 15:09 (three years ago) link

No to the first question. To the second question, they mostly turn a blind eye if they are aware of it at all. Although one person posted this on a thread she started:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEuiyOcGfz8

Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 8 August 2020 15:12 (three years ago) link

His other ex-wife is on there too. I kind of feel unclean knowing this. Now that I have reported it, I will slink away in shame.

Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 10 August 2020 22:49 (three years ago) link

...for Mexican Coffees at Red Lobster?

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 10 August 2020 22:53 (three years ago) link

Ha, I saw that coming a few light years away, using my homebrew telescope. Do you know how a telescope works? Do you know what parallax is?

Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 10 August 2020 22:58 (three years ago) link


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