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all Catholic churches and property portfolios too

first we need a 'state' that will not immediately sell them to the highest bigger their besties.

Trump’s not a russian asset, he is a CIA asset. From the outside his “money pit” businesses, like the golf courses, and mysterious loans suggest a money laundering operation. People have long speculated that he is cleaning money for russian oligarchs to finance his lifestyle. I think he was laundering money for the CIA that they use for their “off the books” operations. (cf Iran-Contra). This is why Mueller inexplicably didn’t look into Trump’s finances. It would expose the intelligence community, not just Trump; Trump knows it, which is why he taunted these people all the time from the start.

good one

it's def saudi arabian and russian mobsters though

trump being a cia asset would explain why they haven't killed him yet

treeship come back down the air is very thin up there

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Just think about it.

I don’t think the intelligence community likes him at this point. I think there are just deep links there which is why he was so blase about dissing them early on—they held no mystique for him whatsoever.

Also, him being in bed with the cia doesn’t mean he isn’t also linked to saudi and russian oligarchs. The picture is muddy, not clear. But I don’t think he was ever in the pocket of a foreign power—it makes more sense to see him as, like epstein, some kind of cia asset that they formally keep at arm’s length.

interesting tbh

treeship, this strikes me as kinda plausible -- have you read anything in particular that suggested connections between trump and the intelligence community?

i confess i'm a sucker for "cia did it" conspiracies because like 75 percent of the time there's *something* to them

^^ i confess to silently wondering to myself "i wonder if the CIA will kill him"

j.d., i haven't read anything to that effect. just trying to fill in some gaps on my own. obviously this is just speculative, but a lot about trump doesn't add up.

I like this theory tbh

lol at this becoming the best trump thread suddenly

He disregards, or outright refuses, their work. He excludes them, undermines them, can't close his big fat mouth. For better or worse he's been working to replace the world order that gives them a purpose—strategic alliances and clear enemies in a state-based hegemony—with an intn'l network of personal business connections. They hate him.

he's just negging them

so not gonna happen

He disregards, or outright refuses, their work.

from the beginning, he seemed to know they were against his presidency. and why is that? just because they leaked the steele dossier? he seemed, right away, to know what that *meant*: he saw it as a first shot against him, but also seemed to know that they could never go against him for real. it was the casual way in which he dismissed the "deep state," before even taking office, that just seemed off to me and demanded an explanation.

i think he was familiar with this crowd and their tricks and knew that they too -- when it was convenient -- partook in the "international network of personal business connections." of all the different parts of the US empire, it was the intelligence community that he saw as the most hypocritical of all.

if trump was really as much of an outsider as he seemed, he would have seemed adrift when he got to washington, unsure of who his allies and enemies were. but he wasn't--he jumped right into it, antagonizing comey and all these other people.

my theory isn't that he is working hand in glove with the intelligence community today. it's more like, they have had a mutually beneficial business relationship for years, but one that is strained. and one outcome of it is that he feels he has leverage over them. it never made sense that he didn't try to fire mueller. the entire thing felt like a game of chicken, and then it was mueller at the end who blinked, basically.

Mueller’d FBI

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i know he was fbi, but trump banked on the fact that he wouldn't blow up the cia's spot by uncovering the money laundering scheme. after the patriot act, don't the two agencies work together often anyway?

I think you’re reading logic and intentionality into Trump’s actions when there is no evidence of logic or intentionality ever driving him before.

I think you’re reading logic and intentionality into Trump’s actions when there is no evidence of logic or intentionality ever driving him before.

that's what the cia bet when they tapped him as an asset--the desperate "billionaire" who would do anything to keep up his lifestyle at a time when he was completely underwater.

in any case, i don't think my theory requires trump to be logical and cunning. he just needs to be someone who was at one point desperate and willing to get his hands dirty. and also someone who would have already been knowledgeable about the connections between organized crime and US intelligence--you know, able to move between those worlds. and this very much was trump. his mentor was roy cohn.

Trump was a game show host.

true. alex trebek and regis philbin also declared net incomes in the negative hundreds of millions every year for decades. it's a game show thing.

there is *something there* which is why we were all riveted by the russia investigation. but for some reason mueller stopped short at uncovering what that was.

this is just my theory as to why that is. four years into his disastrous presidency, there is still a whole lot we just don't know about him, and it's hard for me to think that isn't in some way intentional.

in any case, i don't think my theory requires trump to be logical and cunning. he just needs to be someone who was at one point desperate and willing to get his hands dirty. and also someone who would have already been knowledgeable about the connections between organized crime and US intelligence--you know, able to move between those worlds. and this very much was trump. his mentor was roy cohn.

maybe. but i don't understand why an investigation into whether trump was compromised by russia didn't include a look into who he owes money to. it seems like more than an oversight. there were some things about trump that mueller didn't want america to know about for whatever reason.

that's what the cia bet when they tapped him as an asset--the desperate "billionaire" who would do anything to keep up his lifestyle at a time when he was completely underwater.

yeah, but i just think that would have been exposed by now.

that's the crux of this. for some reason, US authorities can't touch him, even when he is quite blatantly involved in crimes.

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Actually treeship if you were to tell me to wear foil I’d wear it after these last bunch of posts

i confess i'm a sucker for "cia did it" conspiracies because like 75 percent of the time there's *something* to them

that's the crux of this. for some reason, US authorities can't touch him, even when he is quite blatantly involved in crimes.

wtf is that? xpost

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Anti-semitic pish.

yeah, i stopped watching that segment when i saw where it was going.

i think, look--occam's razor says boring, maryland is right and he has gotten away with everything because the government never prosecutes white collar crime. i'm 90% sure something like this is the real answer.

but there will always be a part of me that wonders how it got this far. the people he has been dicking over, decade after decade, are also very rich and powerful. and no matter what, the money keeps coming in for him.

It's not a subtle thumbnail.

yeah, i mean, i think that is something for the mods to remove honestly. we don't need it here.

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Yeah, that was a few steps beyond "controversial." Deleted.

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