Primal Scream.

Too formal?

Generally, she does seem very well loved.

Perhaps, yes. And yes, she does. I spoke to her at the Glasgow Plaza ballroom PS/The Orb gig that was just before Screamadelica came out and she seemed very nice and very shy.

You'd sort of imagine that there would be a beautiful anecdote about a glorious, ridiculous, messy time. I'm sure that will appear in time.

^ just searched, Kris Needs has a twitter but only twooted once

I agree that it reads weirdly. Each of the four sentences in that tweet works to distance the band from Denise Johnson. The odd use of the past tense in the first sentence; making it clear in the second that they're not among her friends; precisely describing the boundaries of her contribution in the third; lastly, reinforcing that it was all in the past. I bet it reflects less ill-feeling towards her and more mild umbrage at the "Primal Scream singer dies" headlines.

This is warmer:

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/jul/28/denise-johnson-the-voice-of-manchesters-dancefloors

Eyeball Kicks, that's my problem with it, I think. Well said.

Yes, that was neatly summarized!

They sued her over this a year ago.

What a set of wank stains...

This artwork was going on a website where ALL proceeds were going to charity.
Some grass has alerted Primal Scream so now the record company's complained that it infringes copyright.
How can you fucking copyright colours?

And err.. Funkadelic? pic.twitter.com/iiSQgp1I2i

— Denise Johnson (@TheDJohnsonR3AL) May 14, 2019

It's a cold tweet and they should be ashamed of themselves.

Deafening silence from Boaby.

I can't believe someone who used to wear a nazi SS badge has been exposed as a peevish grasping shithead!

young Boaby when he was a 2nd rate C86 jangler needs a visit from the ghost of rock 'n' roll past to stop him become a scroogelike miser

Gillespie is resolutely dislikeable, always comes across as a pounding pain in the arse in interviews, and I say that as someone who probably shares about 95% of his political beliefs.

Terry Christian not holding back....

Luke warm bullshit . You fucked her over like the money grubbing snides you were. Gillespie couldn't even look her in the eye in London 18 months ago. Without her you're just a 2nd rate pub rock outfit...not even shit on her shoes https://t.co/Yz68C4rE6S

— terry christian (@terrychristian) July 29, 2020

damn.

Good man, Terry.

other than the lawsuit above, what exactly went down between them?

Anyway, I'm glad I saw her a few years back with ACR. She was fantastic.

TC doesnae miss. Boaby is an arse of a man.

I prefer my Boaby.

(xp) This lawsuit seems more than enough to sour relationships.

Reading the Terry Christian thread, it seems that she was uncredited on an album and was dismissed as a backing singer (after having seemed part of the band).

Yes, there's a screenshot of a tweet from her where she mentions a (legal, I assume) letter to her where her contributions were described as 'insignificant'.

wow, that's so horrible.

Sueing the only actual black person associated with the band, the band whose singer never stops harping on about how much he uniquely loves black music - great look, Bob!

Ugh. She was such a significant part of the band from a listener's perspective at the time, and it seems especially vicious to be so dismissive recently, when the band has had a female bass player as a presumably permanent member for ages

^ oh lol - per wikipedia, Simone Butler, who replaced Debbie Googe, is marked as "2012–28/07/2020"

hmmm

When a 15 second clip says it all. I’ll just leave this here....... pic.twitter.com/UoaQpwo8ih

— Natalie-Eve Williams (@natalieeveradio) August 18, 2020

This band's me too moment is way, way, waaaaaaaay overdue, but...

I'm slowly coming to realise that everything that teenage me loved and raved about this group was nothing to do with the floppy pretty-boy abuser frontman.

Oh, feelings, you are complicated.

God he looks like such an absurd tool with his clapping/jumping jack moves, and not in a good way. There will be a special part of hell for boab where he has to eat his ss badge and re-live every toe-curlingly embarrassing part of his life again with added self-awareness of what an absolute risible (not in a good way) fool he is. Hopefully he is in that hell now!

I probably said this way, way upthread somewhere, but the last time of the three I saw them -- this would have been Evil Heat days -- when Bobby ambled out on stage there were cheers and all but when Mani appeared that tore the roof off, and he was loving it. Bobby, less so.

Mani’s cameo in 24 Hour Party People got loud applause at the Laemmle Santa Monica screening room I saw it in. People love him.

I don't know much about Bobby's musical contributions but it's really really easy to imagine them improved with a different front person. or none at all.

I don't know much about Bobby's musical contributions

Shows up at Andrew Innes' house with a dozen or so LPs in a crate, plays them for him, says, "That's the next album - let me know when you've got something" and vanishes again, would be my guess...

Lawrence from Felt apparently designed the sleeve for the Come Together single. At least that's what some stranger on Facebook said and I'm inclined to believe them.

tis true

2nd hit. Released summer 1990. Sleeve art by Lawrence from Felt.https://t.co/oSDOJf7PSo pic.twitter.com/zHW9oRunbb

— Primal Scream (@ScreamOfficial) January 16, 2016

yep it has his "artwork by shanghai packaging company" logo on it.

Primal Scream and Dexys Midnight Runners have released a protest song today:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REx_JVD3-20

Sounds like a Pogues song.

The personal statement submitted by Martin Duffy's son as evidence at his father's inquest doesn't make Primal Scream sound good at all.

http://www.dafts.co.uk/louieduffystatement.pdf

Jesus, that’s a shocking read.

:(

Boab treated Denise Johnson like shit and diminished the value of her musical contributions as well and stuff about it came out after her passing. I don't listen to them but it seems quite clear he doesn't like paying people he works with and is a shit person to work with.

So much for socialism, eh Bobby?

heartbreaking

And right on the day an archival collection of the first singles and radio sessions is announced too.

This is heartbreaking.

jfc what an absolute cunt

that was rough

Today's Daily Record front page leads on Primal Scream’s keyboard player Martin Duffy's son telling an inquest his dad died penniless after the band cut him out of a £5million deal #ScotPapers pic.twitter.com/JOMcIo4xNi

— The Daily Record (@Daily_Record) June 7, 2023

Gutted for Duffy, and respect for his son in speaking up.

What a dick, money does some strange things to people.