pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

8.0 with no BNM is their traditional jazz album score

It's also the score they gave the 1975's latest, which suggests it's also their traditional "Brad" album score.

That's because the entire field of contemporary jazz deserves a 8.0 iirc.

xp

Jazz is really great right now

Yeah but can you think of a recent jazz album about which you can credibly say that 'no music has ever sounded quite like it'?

that's a pretty strict litmus test for any music

Well, yeah.

should have got the BNM (Brad New Music)

I feel like The Comet is Coming, Sons of Kemet, Malaya McCraven are all doing very unique work to name a few

Plot twist: Fetch the Bolt Cutters *is* a jazz album, first and foremost.

i mean obv not like taylor swift/bon iver level reinvention of music as we know it but still

matana roberts too?

fetch the bolt cutters is a jazz-hands album

The new Zara McFarlane is really inventive

Does the Coin Coin series feature Rashomon-level Dawson’s Creek-type narratives? I think not.

I don't really know what we are talking about anymore

I'm not necessarily in love w/the album, but I don't feel like the review really considers the music deeply enough (or maybe it just uses the terms "indie" once too often). I also think it probably deserved BNM, but whatevs.

Jazz is really great right now

8.0 is a pretty good rating?

I mean, it looks like it is to me but I know absolutely nothing about the ratings on Pitchfork tbh.

Does the Coin Coin series feature Rashomon-level Dawson’s Creek-type narratives? I think not.

The Coin Coin series is literally Matana Roberts sorting through her own family's history with slavery, Jim Crow, etc. through music and multimedia art, so...yes?

I need to rewatch dawson's creek

The new Zara McFarlane is really inventive

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown)

thread finally delivers--I didn't know this was out already!

I'mma step out of my passive-aggressive irony and simply state the obvious (to me): contemporary jazz is infinitely more interesting than most of the shit that gets reviewed on p4k and Coin Coin Chapter Four: Memphis, for instance, deserved way better than an 8.3. Also, Taylor Swift's music is more like a 2.0 and as much as I enjoy Fiona Apple's previous albums, Fetch the Bolt Cutters bit off more than it can chew and is more of a 7.0 in my book and certainly not deserving of its plaudits.

The Coin Coin series is literally Matana Roberts sorting through her own family's history with slavery, Jim Crow, etc. through music and multimedia art, so...yes?

C'mon unperson, you didn't seriously think I meant that sincerely.

…not that any of this really matters, of course, but how else are we supposed to shoot the shit on I Love Music?

hehe, according to this, the average contemporary jazz album reviewed by pitchfork really is close to a 8.0

https://i.imgur.com/0tNiohS.png

lol

i don't know if contemporary jazz is better now than in the past, it certainly feels like there is a lot of energy and people doing interesting things in a number of very diverse directions

shout out to the jazz thread and unperson for hipping me to a lot of it in recent years

but it could be I'm just paying attention now!

Jazz has always been good.

fwiw UMS, there have been two jazz BNMs this year with >8.0 scores, so maybe pitchfork agrees with you..

that's good! which ones?

fiona apple and bob dylan

lmao

lol

hahaha
it was the McCraven/GSH reworking and the new Jeff Parker, which both have pitchforky qualities I suppose, but are also deserved

Parker album is great but yr right Tortoise associations probably help

Parker and McCraven are both signed to International Anthem, which was the subject of a Pitchfork feature article earlier this year as a label that's "rewriting the rules of jazz."

damn, the Zara McFarlane is something else, not even remotely like what I was expecting

the title should really be changed at some point

― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Monday, July 27, 2020 11:45 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

look I know there's a lot of posts in here but we haven't hit #34985859340293849495 yet

I really liked McFarlane's first album - even interviewed her for Bandcamp - but I haven't dug into the new one yet.

look I know there's a lot of posts in here but we haven't hit #34985859340293849495 yet

i feel like a lot of people don't really understand how large numbers like these are. at our current pace, it could take over 3 years to hit #34,985,859,340,293,849,495

Still thinking about this one pic.twitter.com/V7YXzLe1Pj

— Jeremy D. Larson (@jeremydlarson) July 27, 2020

unreal

i feel like a lot of people don't really understand how large numbers like these are. at our current pace, it could take over 3 years to hit #34,985,859,340,293,849,495

― The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Monday, July 27, 2020 2:32 PM (fifty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I don't know, if we count every tweet about this well-written positive review as a post I think we're probably pretty close

oh my god @ that tweet

i am twitter illiterate, what's the joke?

Someone thinks Pfork isn't "indie" enough to appreciate the album.

Swift stans taking on the rockist mantle

they can't. . . be serious?

can they?

also Larson is P4k's reviews editor

that is amazing