pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

I'd also submit that there's a certain charisma needed to be a compelling video reviewer that a lot of excellent but introverted or self-conscious writers (music or not), simply don't have. Their words might be compelling on the page, but their self-conscious camera shy-ness might not be. It'll probably come more naturally to a younger generation who are more natural in front of cameras due to their increasing prominence in everyday life, but honestly, I can't bear to watch myself back on video. I know that probably says more about my own insecurities than anything else, but I wouldn't be surprised if others felt the same way.

youtubing is a very vapid medium. it's not conducive to the concept of arts criticism. could you imagine ppl clamoring for literary criticism to move to youtube? "has the london review of books thought about trying youtube?" -- nobody. fantanto is sui generis bcuz he tapped into the rap nerd contingency among reddit and 4chan posters... it's a large group of ppl online (eminem fans) who weren't being catered to by pitchfork, rolling stone, fader, xxl, etc. good for them, they can have each other. there is no fantano model w/o the fantano demographic, and to suggest that ppl should want to sign up to engage w/ that audience is not a position i would agree w/ at all.

there's actually a good deal of fairly successful music podcasts... it's a far more conducive medium to discussion of art. still, most of the popular ones -- song exploder, mogul etc -- are either ideas that wouldn't be best on a web page or threats to narrative features/storytelling moreso than criticism per se. and in places where there is a popular discussion podcast -- i.e. nyt popcast, rolling stone pod -- i don't think you'd hear anyone say that the success of the podcast is damaging the worth or reputation of the accompanying written journalism.

As an occasional consumer of music criticism, I can affirm that I have zero interest in watching a YouTube music review (of course, I’m just one, Gen X aged guy).

imago at 7:10 26 Jul 20

happy to read any links about failed pivots to video obv but i wouldn't have thought funding so much as lack of execution or the right approach would be the issue

or you could do it yourself and not just assume your zero info gut reaction needs to be disproven

8.0

rip bradNelson

We reviewed @TaylorSwift13's new album https://t.co/w6hqBCUUIq

— Pitchfork (@pitchfork) July 27, 2020

The stans are already out in full force

What are they mad about? It's an extremely positive, generous review. The only real negative criticism it has is the (accurate) claim it's maybe a couple of songs too long.

here's me

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— s h o e b¹³ (@hauntedghostss) July 27, 2020

wtf? that’s disturbing

8.0

0.2 higher & safer than expected

for the health and safety of their writers this site should make it clear writers don't choose scores

worth noting j0rd that the two popular discussion podcasts you cite are offshoots of established outlets

LJ, I found this by typing "pivot to video" into the Google search bar: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pivot_to_video

It took me a total of 3 seconds.

Also, we were all around and kicking 5 years ago when this nonsense happened so I don't believe that you are actually unaware of it.

omg i wasn't aware of the gallows euphemistic use of the phrase, posting it here on ilx is literally like walking into the oscars and asking if everyone thought television was the future

lmao sorry

and yet...written criticism is definitely suffering atm? what is to be done

hang the bosses obv

LJ do you have some genetic disorder that prevents you from just admitting you don't know what you're talking about?

unless you've actually worked in running a media outlet that tried to make money on video, you don't, trust me,

i was admitting my mistake there! then asking how written criticism has to adapt? all the big qns

for the health and safety of their writers this site should make it clear writers don't choose scores

― devvvine, Monday, July 27, 2020 8:18 AM (fifty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

for the health and safety of everyone metacritic should make it clear neither writers nor editors wrote their score weighting algorithm

but critic is now a vocal, bardic tradition

Am I supposed to be LOLing @ this?

for the health and safety of everyone metacritic should make it clear neither writers nor editors wrote their score weighting algorithm

do you have some genetic disorder that prevents you from just admitting you don't know what you're talking about?

New board description.

(i am on the spectrum if 14 years yesterday of my posts hadn't alerted u to this)

― imago, Monday, 27 July 2020 14:10 (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

;)

I left out 'LJ' on purpose btw.

just imagine if i'd played the aspergers thing up, what a monster i truly could've been

it's weird that i know plenty of people on the spectrum and yet they are not routinely full of shit

like of course i know you're on the spectrum lj, you bring it up constantly as a defensive shield in arguments?

anyway, i'm logging out

brad c'mon this is a bit much, what is ilx for if not shooting the shit and road-testing opinions, u know i am not set in my ways and constantly have my mind changed about things, yeah i've always had a bone to pick with pitchfork but they've always exuded an imo unearned sense of authority, and yes i know i'm probably being a little uncharitable, but they are so prevalent that it's v hard to see them through anything other than a distorted lens

i don't have any beef with the individual pitchfork writers (well, the odd historical exception, but none among present company!)

for me, the fact that i frequently exhibit behaviors common in people who have been diagnosed with asd means that i need to put _more_ work and thought into how i present myself online.

LJ I hope you know that however much you wind me up, it's all love

well yes :)

maura (or whoever), tell more about these newsletters

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/07/24/substack-email-newsletter-journalism/

oh i've been seeing this 'substack' thing a lot recently yeah

i've always had a bone to pick with pitchfork but they've always exuded an imo unearned sense of authority

there's an incredibly long thread here on ILM that takes Pitchfork to task for everything from participating in the music industry PR game to not giving BNM to certain genres to failing to catch grammatical errors to adjusting their year-end lists to make certain ~statements~, which suggests their sense of authority has been entirely earned whether you/we like it or not! If it's unearned what the hell is this cursed thread about?

the title should really be changed at some point

8.0 with no BNM is their traditional jazz album score

It's also the score they gave the 1975's latest, which suggests it's also their traditional "Brad" album score.

That's because the entire field of contemporary jazz deserves a 8.0 iirc.

xp

Jazz is really great right now

Yeah but can you think of a recent jazz album about which you can credibly say that 'no music has ever sounded quite like it'?

that's a pretty strict litmus test for any music

Well, yeah.

should have got the BNM (Brad New Music)

I feel like The Comet is Coming, Sons of Kemet, Malaya McCraven are all doing very unique work to name a few

Plot twist: Fetch the Bolt Cutters *is* a jazz album, first and foremost.

i mean obv not like taylor swift/bon iver level reinvention of music as we know it but still

matana roberts too?