Shady scams and other silly business ideas to take advantage of earnest new vinyl collectors

I would buy a standalone CD with just the 17-minute version of "L.A. Blues" on it, but I don't have much interest in hearing the rest

i have the "declaration of war: best of the funhouse sessions" rhino LP from the '90s and can't remember the last time i played it. it has, i think, the only two full takes of what AFAIK are the only two tracks that didn't make the record ("slide" and "lost in the future") plus the 11-minute version of "fun house"

along with the 17m "LA blues" (which i've only ever heard on youtube) i think that's all i probably need — i just can't imagine wanting to listen to 30 sides worth of outtakes, false starts, studio dialogue, and alt. takes. or in other words:

it's just that the finished article is so perfect

which is another way of saying that sometimes there's a line between deep appreciation and fandom, and with the stooges (and this record in particular) i just don't think this kind of hyper-archivist, completist approach enhances my understanding of the art, there's just not a lot for me to learn from putting a microscope to this recoding project. sometimes there are things you just don't need to know about and that's okay.

It’s a very particular kind of fandom. I can see appreciating the complete sessions of a Miles Davis album or something, but I don’t really get it for “Fun House” (great as that album is).

it reminds me of this quote from foucault, which i've roughly translated here because i'm having a hard time finding an english translation online:

But suppose we are dealing with an author: is everything they wrote or said, everything they left behind, part of their work? This is both a theoretical and technical problem. When you set out to publish, for example, the works of Nietzsche, where should you stop? You have to publish everything, of course, but what does this "everything" mean? Everything that Nietzsche published himself? Of course. Drafts of his works? Obviously. His many unpublished aphorisms? Yes. The erasures also, the jottings at the bottom of his notebooks? Yes. But when, inside a notebook filled with aphorisms, there is a reference, the indication of an appointment or an address, a grocery list: work, or not work? But why not? And so on, indefinitely. Among the millions of traces left by someone after their death, how can we define a work? There is no thoery of the œuvre, and those who ingenuously undertake to publish these œuvres lack such a theory and quickly find that their empirical work is hindered.

(original here: http://1libertaire.free.fr/MFoucault319.html)

i just don't think this kind of hyper-archivist, completist approach enhances my understanding of the art, there's just not a lot for me to learn from putting a microscope to this recoding project. sometimes there are things you just don't need to know about and that's okay.

I totally agree. I'm generally a lover of alt-takes, etc, and yesterday was listening to that deluxe Tusk from a couple of years back and thinking, "I could listen to several disks more of this, hearing every permutation Lindsey ran through for each song", because those tracks definitely mutated in the studio. But the Funhouse sessions is just like 27 versions of Dirt that are all roughly the same, just not as good as the album version, and that doesn't do it for me.

my package from VNYL arrived while I was out. on my way home to see what doodoo they gave me.

oh, this oughta be good. . .!

Unboxing vid me please.

^^^

opened it. unboxing vid coming in just a sec

for real !!

bated breath

hoping it's just three pairs of multi-colored socks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahvBgWTYYZY

Def Jef! now there's a name I haven't heard in a loooooong time, think I used to have a 12" by him.

seriously! apparently after 1991 he just moved to production full time.

Wow! Didn't think you'd actually do the vid. Seeing that, I bet Vnyl has got people contacting stores and grabbing up their vintage RSD stuff, which I imagine is better than their thrift store sweeps of yore.

lol - I was bored and wanted to delay my disappointment a little longer. was kinda hoping for something dopier!

you are probably right. i looked up the vinyl online and it's not exactly highly sought after!

awesome video, thanks for sharing. you should do more, you’re most definitely a not terrible youtuber !

gonna cue up some masta ace later today

thanks for sharing!

i have to assume that they buy these things in lots, and everyone with "hip hop" in their spreadsheet has a chance of getting this one at some point. take pity on the VNYL intern who has to handwrite the same note ("INSERT RAP ACT MENTIONED BY CUSTOMER") three hundred times.

Listened to the Kenyatta track

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Isg_KABU9XY

and it's alright, but missing several of the elements that made the original so appealing to others

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8OZux6hp1Q

you are probably right. i looked up the vinyl online and it's not exactly highly sought after!

― XVI Pedicabo eam (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 5 August 2020 02:57 (ten hours ago) link

My experience is that there is a huge gulf between the actually desirable RSD offerings (good luck getting those) and the loads of crap offered on RSD that you continue to see sealed in bargain bins for years afterward.

yeah, when I used to go to our local record store after RSD, there'd be an entire rack for "RSD shit that nobody bought". I mean it didn't say that explicitly but ~we knew~

yup, ime it's often live albums by mid-level bands

lol otm. i usually used to poke around and see if any of them were good byes and....usually no, I could often tell why they didn't sell.

with the Delicious Vinyl one, its p obviously a niche release, so for next month, I've decided i'm going to troll and tell them my new favorite band is something they can't possibly find a pairing for.

so give your suggestions here for what shit band I should pretend to like next month.

Moxy Früvous?

wrong kind of smash hits

I bought some stuff from LITA earlier this year and they were giving away one of their past RSD releases with orders over a certain amount. They must have piles of them laying around.

It's very much "get this shit out my garage"

great video Neanderthal! :D

yes, excellent work!

I always feel in Neanderthal's videos like I am on the floor, lying on my back looking up at him. And maybe that I shouldn't be—like something has gone wrong, I am maybe semiconscious or it is near the end.

haha it's more that I use my phone and am terrible at angling. like how you never actually saw the vinyl's full title in a shot, or how you all got a glimpse of the record before I did :)

I posted a soccer celebration video from a match last year and my girlfriend at the time said EWW ALL I SAW WAS YOUR NOSEHAIRS

Hahaha. I'd watch more of those, Neanderthal! I spent most of the first couple of minutes trying to work out what t-shirt you were wearing. Cool shirt.

completely forgot to place my order for the next month. oh well. I did curated again.

never played the record they sent me, in fact I stole the sleeve from it for a picture disc that was sent to me inexplicably without one.

This seems a strange way to use money.

Surprises by mail tho.

We could organize a physical music swap where everyone sends and gets a thing. Only if we're all committed to writing related drink recipes, of course.

it's $15/month, and as maffew says, the idea of a surprise record by mail is kinda fun even if the first one was meh. if the second one they give me is a dud, though, I'll probably peace out.

But isn't actually *playing* the record an integral part of the experience?

I mean, I planned to, but...mood hasn't struck me

current mood: buyer's remorse.

i keed, i keed.

maybe not the thread but man it's infuriating to have your local store run out of the RSD release you wanted and then come home and find a dozen copies on eBay for 3x the price

Yeah I was excited about the reissue of this one Windows96 album last month, but then it sold out on the day of release. A few eBay listings popped up for it the same day. 6 copies on Discogs right now starting at $60. Bah sharks. Lifestyle accessories.

nice to see that rsd maintains the same old shittiness as years past in this, the shittiest of years.

This year my local began publicly announcing their previously-unspoken policy of everything unsold gets posted for online flipping at noon. Why bother opening the store at all?

I did see one store stayed closed on Saturday, stock went to online at 6

(as in didn't open on sat but was on Fri, etc)

Yeah stores like that should be banned from getting any stock in the future though I guess i can’t get too mad at them considering they probably really do need the money

I get the appeal of exclusivity and collectability but like this culture of “here’s something you want, it’s $10 more than you want to pay and you’ve got an hour to pull the trigger, otherwise good luck ever finding a copy again motherfucker” kinda sucks imo

it's "gig economy" philosophy applied to actual merchandise and it's one of the most astonishing displays of dystopian capitalism i've ever witnessed.

but yaaay. . . . records. . . and stuff. . .

Exploiting FOMO

I just wish they’d make 12x12 album cover prints for the chumps that buy new vinyl for decoration or whatever