tfw u realize you've mixed up The National with TV on the Radio for 15 years
Oh I do think this is exactly what happened, it looks like both these bands came out around the same time and were from New York and made a bunch of indie-ish records I never heard, I did not exactly think they were the same band but maybe I thought one was a side project or offshoot of the other.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 26 July 2020 00:23 (three years ago) link
Amazon has an incorrect tracklist for the Belle & Sebastian album out Friday. I thought it was somebody's parody titles but googling tells me this is for the new album by The National (based on them playing two of these songs live). Have they announced a new album yet or should I start a new-album detective agency?
1 Once Upon A Poolside (feat. Sufjan Stevens)2 Eucalyptus3 New Order T-Shirt4 This Isn't Helping (feat. Phoebe Bridgers)5 Tropic Morning News6 Alien7 The Alcott (With Taylor Swift)8 Grease In Your Hair9 Ice Machines10 Your Mind Is Not Your Friend (feat. Phoebe Bridgers)11 Send For Me
― erasingclouds, Monday, 9 January 2023 15:58 (one year ago) link
Obviously Belle & Sebastian and the National have merged into one group, Belle & Sebastional.
― birdistheword, Monday, 9 January 2023 17:45 (one year ago) link
The Boy With The Alligator Strap
― Evan, Monday, 9 January 2023 18:07 (one year ago) link
looking forward to future dad rock staple, New Order T-Shirt
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 9 January 2023 19:56 (one year ago) link
anyway, they are playing bottlerock in napa in May so I assume they have a new album on the way and that tracklist looks likely. glad to see Phoebe all over it.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 9 January 2023 22:38 (one year ago) link
glad that "weird goodbyes" apparently isn't on it because it wasn't very good
― ufo, Monday, 9 January 2023 22:41 (one year ago) link
Phoebe seems to be everywhere.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 9 January 2023 23:04 (one year ago) link
There might still be other songs on the album (even "Weird Goodbyes"?). Somebody pointed out, given the way this leaked, that the 11 track limit might match the number of tracks on the B&S album this appeared under by mistake, not the full number on The National album.
― erasingclouds, Tuesday, 10 January 2023 17:20 (one year ago) link
1 Once Upon A Poolside (feat. Sufjan Stevens)2 Eucalyptus3 New Order T-Shirt
wtf
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 January 2023 17:24 (one year ago) link
“once upon a poolside” has got to be the most national song title of all time
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 10 January 2023 17:29 (one year ago) link
If you'd said "By the Poolside I Sat and Wept," maybe.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 January 2023 17:32 (one year ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdU0qwZKLfU
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 18 January 2023 18:03 (one year ago) link
leaked tracklist was accurate. album is 47 minutes long (thank god) (even though i liked the last one's sprawl)
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 18 January 2023 18:04 (one year ago) link
not as good as their past two lead singles but it's decent
― ufo, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 21:41 (one year ago) link
why do you feat. Phoebe Bridgers but With Taylor Swift?
― corrs unplugged, Thursday, 19 January 2023 17:22 (one year ago) link
Maybe she co-wrote the song with them, and the others are just featured on songs that the band wrote?
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 19 January 2023 17:24 (one year ago) link
yeah possible
― corrs unplugged, Thursday, 19 January 2023 17:39 (one year ago) link
https://shop.americanmary.com/products/new-order-t-shirt
this is so stupid i have to get it
― 龜, Thursday, 23 February 2023 17:14 (one year ago) link
that’s great, definitely buying for my partner
― not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Thursday, 23 February 2023 17:20 (one year ago) link
love the t-shirt
really wish I loved the song but it's so nothingy
can't hate, it's just got no melody, nothing to latch onto
― corrs unplugged, Tuesday, 28 February 2023 08:52 (one year ago) link
Album out Friday. NME (lol) has said it's their best in a decade and given it five stars. Have really liked the two more recent songs they've released from it though https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSywJt3VlUM
― groovypanda, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 16:45 (eleven months ago) link
Of all the bands I'd totally expect to just keep putting out good albums it's this one.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 16:48 (eleven months ago) link
A nice note is that Matt sliding the SM7 down on the mic stand at the end of the video is just faintly, barely audible enough to confirm that the video you're watching is a factual document of the final vocal performance
― flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 17:12 (eleven months ago) link
Their last one was the best to my ears; having female harmonists and co-vocalists leavened the preppy male angst.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 17:23 (eleven months ago) link
this is probably their most mellow, middle-of-the-road, unexciting album yet
― ufo, Friday, 28 April 2023 08:41 (eleven months ago) link
which is a shame after the last two were a little more interesting and had some of their strongest material (there's definitely a case for i am easy to find as their best)
― ufo, Friday, 28 April 2023 08:56 (eleven months ago) link
Yeah. Shame that all the guest vocalists are strictly on backing duties, especially after the last album. At least Taylor gets a few lines to sing on her own I suppose unlike Phoebe.
― groovypanda, Friday, 28 April 2023 09:50 (eleven months ago) link
taylor's appearance is prominent enough but it's weird that the others get a feature credit for some backing vocals, especially compared to the last album where more prominent guest vocalists didn't
― ufo, Friday, 28 April 2023 10:13 (eleven months ago) link
ppl describing the new national album as “mor” gets me excited about it, actually
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 28 April 2023 13:24 (eleven months ago) link
it just feels like they're spinning their wheels here, there's nothing that comes close to "you had your soul with you" or "the system only dreams in total darkness" or anything
― ufo, Friday, 28 April 2023 13:37 (eleven months ago) link
The System Dreams in MOR
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 28 April 2023 13:38 (eleven months ago) link
Not every fan of the national is a divorced guy who owns an npr t shirt but every divorced guy who owns an npr t shirt is a fan of the national— eve6 (@Eve6) April 28, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 28 April 2023 17:27 (eleven months ago) link
I am so dead-center in the National’s supposed demographic (but married and no NPR t-shirt but I listen the shit out of NPR) but I just can’t get with the National. A little too close to home maybe.
― tobo73, Friday, 28 April 2023 22:00 (eleven months ago) link
Tuned out for no partic reason after Boxer, which I loved. Thinking of dipping back in but no sure where to start
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Saturday, 29 April 2023 12:52 (eleven months ago) link
trouble will find me!
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 29 April 2023 14:13 (eleven months ago) link
yeah that's the only really good post boxer album for me
― corrs unplugged, Saturday, 29 April 2023 14:33 (eleven months ago) link
go backwards imo, alligator as good as boxer, sometimes better
two first have some jams
― corrs unplugged, Saturday, 29 April 2023 14:34 (eleven months ago) link
I read the New Yorker profile, then I read a Washington Post profile, and clearly they are in the promo zone, because the overlap was remarkable.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 29 April 2023 15:49 (eleven months ago) link
I tried a pink rabbit thanks to The National.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 29 April 2023 16:09 (eleven months ago) link
yeah that's the only really good post boxer album for me― corrs unplugged, sobota, 29 kwietnia 2023 16:33 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglinkgo backwards imo, alligator as good as boxer, sometimes bettertwo first have some jams― corrs unplugged, sobota, 29 kwietnia 2023 16:34 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
― corrs unplugged, sobota, 29 kwietnia 2023 16:33 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
― corrs unplugged, sobota, 29 kwietnia 2023 16:34 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
I think the run from Alligator to High Violet is pretty stellar. Trouble Will Find Me is good, too, but could maybe use a trim?
― ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Saturday, 29 April 2023 16:24 (eleven months ago) link
I thought the last one, I Am Easy To Find was excellent. As Alfred mentions, the guest vocalists give a fresh spin to their sound.
― groovypanda, Saturday, 29 April 2023 17:12 (eleven months ago) link
sleep well beast also has a crackling second side. only real dud on that album is “turtleneck” which should've been relegated to a lame resistance comp called rock against trump
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 29 April 2023 17:21 (eleven months ago) link
Every "Automatic for the People" has its "Ignoreland."
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 29 April 2023 17:23 (eleven months ago) link
guys this is a good record
― poster of sparks (rogermexico.), Sunday, 30 April 2023 22:50 (eleven months ago) link
i bet! the subtler they are the better. will be listening finally tomorrow
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 30 April 2023 23:39 (eleven months ago) link
the subleties being less interesting this time than the last two albums are a big part of the problem too
― ufo, Monday, 1 May 2023 00:26 (eleven months ago) link
listen… shhh
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 1 May 2023 01:19 (eleven months ago) link
I mean I guess if you're still holding a torch for Alligator then Alligator will still be your favorite The National record *shrug*
this one's got the usual hooks that grow into earworms and sneaky compositions and wryly observed miserablisms and bryan devendorf and I'm not inclined to complain about any of that.
early standouts: once upon a poolside, tropic morning news, your mind is not your friend.
― poster of sparks (rogermexico.), Monday, 1 May 2023 04:26 (eleven months ago) link
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, April 29, 2023
honestly the best The National record top to bottom. iykyk.
― poster of sparks (rogermexico.), Monday, 1 May 2023 04:27 (eleven months ago) link
Heh, re: Wilco, there are at least four records I haven't heard. I also haven't heard any of Tweedy's solo records, or the Tweedy "Sukierae" album! Yo La ... I'm not sure I've spent much time with anything from "Summer Sun" on, but I have given each album a couple of listens and don't recall any of them being particularly bad.
This is actually part of a broader philosophical discussion I've had with myself re: prolific or consistent bands: how much time *should* I spend with them? There are 17 or so Yo La Tengo albums. That's a lot! There are as many Wilco and related albums. That's a lot, too! The National only have 10, and that includes the first couple that no one really counts, but 10 is a lot, too! So right there we have three bands I like that between them have released no less than 13 albums I absolutely love, and even then I don't know how often I get around to listening to those 13 albums, despite being longtime favorites of mine. It's honestly kind of frustrating, especially when you factor in the steady drip of new releases, or podcast episodes, or John Zorn dropping 900 albums onto Spotify.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 October 2023 14:44 (six months ago) link
and that includes the first couple that no one really countsSad Songs... is a great album. Have spent a lot of time listening to that one.
― groovypanda, Wednesday, 11 October 2023 18:48 (six months ago) link
It is good! But it's kind of overshadowed, imo.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 October 2023 18:55 (six months ago) link
finally ilm will be about the music we aren't listening to
― ivy., Wednesday, 11 October 2023 19:05 (six months ago) link
I'm not listening to over 99.99% of music right now.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 October 2023 21:26 (six months ago) link
I like both of these two national albums fine, but they are a little dull compared to Boxer, Alligator, and High Violet. But there's nothing bad on them at all, definitely. That's def where Wilco landed to me sometime around Ghost...I listen to the records, they're good, they don't stick with me, whether that's the fault of the album or just my jaded ears, I don't know. At least they aren't making albums I think suck.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Wednesday, 11 October 2023 21:31 (six months ago) link
and like, I'm still going to go see the National live on this tour, even though they are playing a place I hate. Because they are phenomenal live, even when they play things I don't love.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Wednesday, 11 October 2023 21:32 (six months ago) link
yo la tengo and wilco are definitely much more interesting bands with much higher highs and yo la tengo put out one of their very best albums just this year
the national are kinda frustrating because they seem capable of making something really compelling and great but never quite get there beyond the occasional track here and there. very good at being fine, decent enough, etc. though
― ufo, Wednesday, 11 October 2023 23:36 (six months ago) link
yeah I was going to say I was actually surprised by that YLT album, it kind of somehow regained all that magic that I'd loved and felt kind of disappeared with Summer Sun. I also think the National might still again make another album as strong as High Violet. But they also might turn into U2.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Wednesday, 11 October 2023 23:46 (six months ago) link
Just heard the track they did with Taylor Swift ("Alcott"), I kinda dug it.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 30 October 2023 23:05 (five months ago) link
still can't say I love the last two albums (or even three or four) as much as anything prior but I saw them last night in SF and they remain one of my favorite live acts. 29 song set, even things I didn't love or wasn't super familiar with were great.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 11 November 2023 18:56 (five months ago) link