love* in the time of plague (and by love* i mean brexit* and other dreary matters of uk politics)

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Years back he tweeted racist anti-Asian stuff briefly and dismissed it as "ethnic banter" in an interview on iirc Bobbi Friction's radio show. Plus there is the stuff Dizzee openly alleged about him not too long ago.

nashwan, Saturday, 25 July 2020 12:14 (three years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EdxOhp3XsAAiU10?format=jpg&name=medium

because scoring points against former rivals/factional adversaries is just as important as the serious business of opposing and challenging antisemitism in the social media world of the so called tsar of antisemitism.

calzino, Saturday, 25 July 2020 14:42 (three years ago) link

John "A Very Sick" Mann

À la recherche du scamps perdu (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 July 2020 14:43 (three years ago) link

oops it's czar not tsar or some other c-word

calzino, Saturday, 25 July 2020 14:47 (three years ago) link

considering it was an actual tsar's secret police that put protocols of elders of zion, bit of a fucked up title really!

calzino, Saturday, 25 July 2020 14:48 (three years ago) link

published I meant

calzino, Saturday, 25 July 2020 14:49 (three years ago) link

a lot of “hey I just heard of Wiley yesterday but I assume he’s the leader of Black Britain and I assume none of Them are condemning him which is ungrateful considering how not-racist I am so They better not expect any support from me in the future” going on today

the state is bad (Left), Saturday, 25 July 2020 15:03 (three years ago) link

I saw Mann being interviewed on Sky earlier and I fully expected him to mention Corbyn, he might have and they might have edited it out though.

Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Saturday, 25 July 2020 15:14 (three years ago) link

@LordJohnMann. Probably a hilarious fake twitter account mind you.

Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Saturday, 25 July 2020 15:15 (three years ago) link

No that is the real account

calzino, Saturday, 25 July 2020 15:17 (three years ago) link

He got a peerage from the tories for being such awesome opposition

calzino, Saturday, 25 July 2020 15:18 (three years ago) link

Didn't boris get the nod from Tommy Robinson at some point?

calzino, Saturday, 25 July 2020 15:21 (three years ago) link

Wiley is a fucking bell end

but fuck the fucking police and this authoritarian anti-black fucking shithole of a country

Police investigate grime artist Wiley's antisemitic tweets https://t.co/7hqVVkpDBC

— The Guardian (@guardian) July 25, 2020

the state is bad (Left), Saturday, 25 July 2020 17:21 (three years ago) link

It's that bunch of headbangers, Campaign Against Antisemitism, who have asked the police to get involved.

Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Saturday, 25 July 2020 17:29 (three years ago) link

Wiley is clearly relishing being able to call the whole country "pagans"

Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 25 July 2020 17:32 (three years ago) link

have pitchfork learned the difference between paigons and pagans yet? now might be a good time!

calzino, Saturday, 25 July 2020 17:33 (three years ago) link

Corbyn should not have deleted his 'Thank you' tweet. Not that issuing any public condemnation would make anyone change their mind either way either.

nashwan, Saturday, 25 July 2020 17:41 (three years ago) link

I was thinking about that, I can understand Corbyn not wanting to invite further dishonest bullshit but I wouldn't have deleted it

À la recherche du scamps perdu (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 July 2020 17:43 (three years ago) link

it isn't a tacit endorsement of AS, he didn't have a gift of time travel hindsight.

calzino, Saturday, 25 July 2020 17:44 (three years ago) link

but the dodgy mural like probably still haunts Corbyn's thoughts

calzino, Saturday, 25 July 2020 17:48 (three years ago) link

I can imagine Crombs or his media people thinking "fuck another round of this" tho

À la recherche du scamps perdu (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 25 July 2020 17:48 (three years ago) link

Or he could have just been as appalled as the rest of us?

santa clause four (suzy), Saturday, 25 July 2020 18:15 (three years ago) link

Or probably didn’t want the worst people on twitter repeatedly retweeting and commenting on that old tweet.

let them microwave their rice (gyac), Saturday, 25 July 2020 18:21 (three years ago) link

What a country

NEW: Department for Transport confirm Transport Secretary @grantshapps is on holiday in Spain.

He will therefore be among thousands of travellers forced to quarantine for a fortnight when he returns to the UK.#COVID19

— Joe Pike (@joepike) July 25, 2020

let them microwave their rice (gyac), Saturday, 25 July 2020 20:40 (three years ago) link

Keystone Fuckin' Cops

Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Saturday, 25 July 2020 21:22 (three years ago) link

This quarantine thing is an absolute shitshow. There are stories of people turning up in Spain for a two week holiday and then having to pretty much head straight back because they can't afford not to physically go to work for a further two weeks.

Matt DC, Sunday, 26 July 2020 09:30 (three years ago) link

Isn't gyac's tweet above not - by accident - an example of how it should be? No exceptions for the ruling class etc?

Scampidocio (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 26 July 2020 09:32 (three years ago) link

There are basically no circumstances that would get me on a plane right now but how many thousands of Brits are there out there right now?

It's probably the right thing to do medically if they're on the way back from Catalonia but if they're going to be constantly lifting and then imposing quarantine restrictions at a moment's notice then it's going to be a disaster, not least because people will choose to just ignore quarantine rules altogether.

Matt DC, Sunday, 26 July 2020 09:34 (three years ago) link

LBI, agreed. Also a good thing to throw in their face when said minister inevitably turns up at some barbecue.

I don't think there's any evidence that the quarantines (or rather social isolation - you can still go out once a day for sport and etc. under official guidelines) are being enforced in any way, afaict if you don't want to comply all you have to do is...just come and not comply, the thousand pound fine seems strictly theoretical.

Showing up at work might be a bit too brazen tho, tbf.

Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 26 July 2020 09:38 (three years ago) link

It doesn't actually matter that much to you if you're a member of the ruling class because, in common with most white collar workers, it's pretty easy to work from home for a fortnight. Even if laughing at Grant Shapps is to be encouraged at all times.

Completely different if you're, say, a Spanish national working in a service industry in London who has just flown to see your family for the first time in months.

I suppose it isn't really much different to having to self isolate because you've been in contact with someone who's been diagnosed, except for the extra cost involved.

Matt DC, Sunday, 26 July 2020 09:54 (three years ago) link

I just heard someone on the radio saying they'd feel safer in Barcelona than London because more people wear masks and still adhere to social distancing. I saw a huge party in a field last night with a marquee + at least a hundred people, lots of booze, a sound system blasting out "we don't have to take our clothes off to have a good time"! lol we're all going to die

calzino, Sunday, 26 July 2020 10:26 (three years ago) link

"the tories are struggling to find a way to make keir starmer look bad" -- andrew rawnsley

yes he's very forensically undertaking this job all by himself

mark s, Sunday, 26 July 2020 10:31 (three years ago) link

this remains an anti-rawnsley ilxor account

mark s, Sunday, 26 July 2020 10:31 (three years ago) link

uh

There are a number of people who are exempt, regardless of their country of origin, including:

Road haulage and freight workers
Medical and care professionals providing essential healthcare
Seasonal agricultural workers if they self-isolate where they are working
UK residents who ordinarily travel overseas at least once a week for work

Shapps just has to decide his job involves checking out the transport infrastructure of the Channel Islands once a week and he's good.

nashwan, Sunday, 26 July 2020 10:34 (three years ago) link

Rawnsley also complaining about antisemitism in one paragraph, closely followed by one where he uses North London as a signifier. Git.

santa clause four (suzy), Sunday, 26 July 2020 10:39 (three years ago) link

look again Rawnsley you tool! the tories called him "the Roy Cropper of politics" last week and Starmer makes himself look bad every time he fucking breathes!

calzino, Sunday, 26 July 2020 10:45 (three years ago) link

"cant find a way to make me look bad if i find all the ways first myself" taps_head_wisely.jpg

mark s, Sunday, 26 July 2020 10:51 (three years ago) link

I just heard someone on the radio saying they'd feel safer in Barcelona than London because more people wear masks and still adhere to social distancing. I saw a huge party in a field last night with a marquee + at least a hundred people, lots of booze, a sound system blasting out "we don't have to take our clothes off to have a good time"! lol we're all going to die

In Portugal atm to see my mum and yeah, masks and social distancing as far as the eye can see. If you go to a mall you actually have to disinfect yr hands before entering every shop. Mind you the flight experience might be terrifying enough to outweigh the confidence of being here.

Wouldn't medical professionals coming back with the rona be amongst the riskiest possible situations??

Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 26 July 2020 10:53 (three years ago) link

Labour's shadow health secretary Jonathan Ashworth said "you couldn't make it up" that Mr Shapps was on holiday in the country while being in charge of the department announcing the rule change.

He told Sky's Sophy Ridge on Sunday programme the government's re-imposition of the quarantine rules was "shambolic", adding: "I think that tells you everything about the government's approach to this."

Are they saying the quarantine shouldn’t have ended or that it should not have been reintroduced?

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Sunday, 26 July 2020 10:55 (three years ago) link

Ashworth is worse than Shapps by a country mile, such a vile man.

maybe Rawnsley hopes if he rim jobs Starmzy regularly enough he'll find a portal up his butt hole that will lead to a place where what he writes has any relevance at all

calzino, Sunday, 26 July 2020 11:02 (three years ago) link

I don't think ever read anything otm by Rawnsley. what the fuck is his brand? I don't know wtf I'm talking about but pay me to do it.

calzino, Sunday, 26 July 2020 11:11 (three years ago) link

His brand is having centrists and Blairites on speed dial.

Are we seeing the report (Mail so at your own risk) where some of the complainants have said if Starmer kicks JC out of Labour, they’ll drop their legal actions?

santa clause four (suzy), Sunday, 26 July 2020 11:18 (three years ago) link

Lawfarehttps://t.co/2oWO6yFaCp

— James Schneider (@schneiderhome) July 26, 2020

calzino, Sunday, 26 July 2020 11:20 (three years ago) link

saw that on Twitter, then got depressed reading Twitter, then drew up some ground plans for gulags

À la recherche du scamps perdu (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 26 July 2020 11:20 (three years ago) link

Columnists like Rawnsley are almost entirely dependent on whether or not senior politicians will talk to them. No one cares (nor should they) about his personal opinion on anything so they stand or fall on the quality of their access and its pretty obvious his access is not what it used to be. I doubt there's anyone of any seniority in the Cabinet who will talk to him, for example, and for a long while that was true of most of the Shadow Cabinet as well.

Pretty sure Ashworth isn't saying anything either way about quarantine. It's a calculation that there will be sufficient numbers of pissed off travellers to make it worth jumping on the bandwagon without having anything of substance to say. It was pretty obvious that something like this was going to happen sooner or later (probably sooner) and the government did not exactly go out of its way to communicate the risks to people.

Also Nashwan's post shows there are enough holes in the rules to make it largely worthless and unenforceable as a public health measure.

Matt DC, Sunday, 26 July 2020 11:24 (three years ago) link

It's probably true that the Tories themselves are struggling to find an effective line of attack on Starmer but also that might turn out not to matter.

Matt DC, Sunday, 26 July 2020 11:26 (three years ago) link

Ashworth encapsulates everything I despise about slimy career politicians. A greasy shifty little vacuous shit in a suit who is an opportunistic, duplicitous non-human. It should be cunts like him getting kicked out of the PLP not Corbyn.

calzino, Sunday, 26 July 2020 11:31 (three years ago) link

Scottish govt removing Spain from the quarantine list then adding them again 4 days later seems (for once) even more shambolic than UK.

オニモ (onimo), Sunday, 26 July 2020 11:34 (three years ago) link

Another thing about Ashworth is that Enoch Powell hairstyle. I bet he's an even bigger Morrissey lover than Starmzy. Never trust wankers with 50s hairstyles Lamarr, Starmzy, Comode etc..

calzino, Sunday, 26 July 2020 11:51 (three years ago) link

He looks like John Parrott.

Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Sunday, 26 July 2020 11:52 (three years ago) link


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