kanye west

my challop is that the first couple of albums are corny and bad and 808s is the peak

honestly I think he is by far the best when he is producing tracks for other people

best two things he's done in recent memory was Daytona for Pusha and KTSE for Teyana Taylor

yes

people make fun of Lift Yourself but it's better than any beat on anything he's done Pablo and after

I think part of the beef with him and Drake was that he'd promised that to Drake and then put it out as a joke and Drake took that as a slap in the face

poopity scoop is better than drake could've done

i think pablo is regularly overrated and quite a mess but come on lol

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lift yourself was a cool beat!

anyway long story short I'm a medium fan of his albums, totally sick of his bullshit, but even if he never made a solo album he'd be in the conversation talking about the best rap producers in this century

But holy shit, takes like "Kanye's run from 2003 to 2016 is probably the greatest body of work of any musician of the 21st century" being thoroughly trashed in this thread is some ludicrous revisionism. Name any other artist that had the pop cultural impact that dude did for a fucking decade in the 21st century

What if we don't equate "pop cultural impact" with "greatest body of work"?

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What if we make "cultural impact" one aspect of judging greatness

one aspect

Sure.

I mean I will side-eye anyone who doesn't think his first two solo albums are classics, I will also ride for MBDTF, and I know I will get clowned for it, and I do like Graduation. 808s can suck a dick. and of course his pre-solo career production as well.

Yeezus I listened to once and probably left in the house I opened it in. not cos it was bad, just cos....idk

Then we risk underrating Ben Monder.xp

I’m going to write a 33 1/3 volume about jesus is king. Then you’ll all see.

Kanye will probably buy them all

I like graduation too

Oh shit too many new messages but hold up: there’s people who think “jesus is king” is a good album!? Holy fuck.

yeah, his last name is Dombal

Only listened to it twice, but the good thing with Jesus is King is that it has no cringey bleached-asshole / Eatin' Asian pussy, all I need was sweet and sour sauce / etc. lines that bring the others to a dud halt. It's like when the clean version of a song is more inventive/creative than the original.

That’s an abysmally low bar to clear.

guess he's putting more wholesome things in a sarcophagus now

Then we risk underrating Ben Monder.xp

― Feel a million filaments (Sund4r)

his version of danny kirwan's "dust" is so good

such a sad song, i think i'm gonna go cry now

really enjoy “follow god”

his version of danny kirwan's "dust" is so good

such a sad song, i think i'm gonna go cry now

<3.

The two discs of Day After Day are so different from each other and are both great.

Kanye is one of these artists, like Radiohead or Bjork whom fans and critics will always give the time of day to no matter how uncommercial, weird, plain bad, or all of the above their music gets.

I've always found him a tough one to listen to. His productions are often great, even when they sound rough or challenging. But post-Graduation I just find his lyrics, his delivery a real hurdle. it's at once flat, irritating and comically self-aggrandising. the parallel with Radiohead sits: there's so much to love but too often it's like there's a creative choice which sticks out like a sore thumb and ruins it for me

I resent that comparison.

Hahaha might as well compare him to Walt Disney, Steve Jobs and Pablo Picasso.

Pablo Picasso

This whole thread is people calling him an asshole, though...

nice

comically self-aggrandising

a rapper? you don't say!

hope my dick grows as big as a 45 record/so I can fuck the world for 72 seconds

/fixed

double standards for rappers? that's racist as hell, chrissy. not cool at all. what's your problem?

I get it Whiney.
But like others upthread have said, this guy is running for president and I can see him wielding his God complex in much the way as Trump did when he posed with that Bible.
I love a bit of hip hop 'braggadocio' (lol), but this is Kanye getting high on his own empty fumes. It's not lyrically smart, funny or interesting to me.
When he says 'I am a God', I don't think he's speaking figuratively or in the same way other rappers might: It's supposed to be taken literally. It's not a metaphor for anyone other than Kanye; it's like David Icke saying 'I am the Godhead'. 'Blood On The Leaves' was the point where I thought 'Okay, this is all a bit something'... The closest thing I can think of is John Lennon's self-pitying, self-religonising, self-onanising 'Ballad of John and Yoko'. At the end of the day, I don't care enough about him to want to listen him in this way.

"I am a God" is a song that ends with him screaming and panting in terror

because no croissants

Sounds great.

here we are in 2020 and the most discussed threads on ILM are kanye west and taylor swift
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM3Y6uw6FtU

This is what they look like fifteen years later. Feeling old yet?

is anybody actually arguing that the greatness of Kanye's music means we can't criticize what he's currently doing?

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Seems like people are mostly doing the "AND I never liked their music anyway" thing.

yeah that is mainly the source of my annoyance

i also don't think whiney said anything outrageous either, and i don't like pablo very much at all

and think mbdtf is an impressive slog, but this is like the only place on the internet where my feelings about that album would be taken seriously lol

the actual great stupid recent kanye song isn't "lift yourself" but "i love it"

Seems like people are mostly doing the "AND I never liked their music anyway" thing.

I know he’s an actual celebrity but for some reason it bothers me how people with no actual interest in rap music, let alone his music, have for years felt the need to express their strong negative emotional opinions about the man’s nonsense. I don’t know why it bothers me. It’s probably hypocritical of me.

yeah being self congratulatory is awesome.

people who weren't into reality TV had some pretty strong opinions about Donald Trump too

Kanye recorded a few good and great albums, some people have written well about him, and he's not gonna be president, nor will he steal votes from Joe Biden.

*leaves thread*