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It might be time to consider bossing

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 18:32 (three years ago) link

ugh

Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 18:33 (three years ago) link

in a better mood today. we are actually having to pull my co-instructor from class for her performance. That isn't the happy part - I hate having to do that, and in fact, have never had to do it. She was woefully unprepared today and left the training on dead air for 15 minutes, so I asked to pull her, to give her time to re-review her materials, as she has to lead the same class next week, and I"ll finish the class solo. and I'm going to observe her and give performance feedback in her next class, as apparently, her classes have been getting poor feedback and nobody's ever formally observed her before.

took a problem and made it into a solution.

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Thursday, 23 July 2020 17:14 (three years ago) link

diversity day presentation over zoom. i am new here so i wasn't sure how mandatory this was. i logged in with the intention of just muting it and reading a book. then we got an email saying sorry some people couldn't get in, the presenter limited it to 100 people. i am taking someone else's spot who wanted to be here and i can't leave! i already know race is a social construct. i might leave at noon though.

contorted filbert (harbl), Thursday, 30 July 2020 15:38 (three years ago) link

Supposedly my last day of wfh is a week from Friday, then it's back to the office (unless we get another stay of execution, but I doubt it). What should I do on my last day? Pancakes for breakfast? B33r for lunch?

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 30 July 2020 16:21 (three years ago) link

Wake and bake
Then breakfast of champions: Cheerios and Budweiser

calstars, Thursday, 30 July 2020 16:44 (three years ago) link

took a problem and made it into a solution.

This sounds like something a boss would do.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Thursday, 30 July 2020 16:48 (three years ago) link

yeah. I've never managed people before but I've been a project manager (two years). went from having a prodigious start where I took over a project before my training was completed and saved it from collapse, feeling confident, and loving my job for 2 years....

....to feeling dehumanized by nasty Executives and toxic business partners and having it wreck my mental health. i wasn't the only one - my peers were also miserable...and some left. was 100% the company, so maybe if I did it elsewhere, it'd go better.

XVI Pedicabo eam (Neanderthal), Thursday, 30 July 2020 17:15 (three years ago) link

"I'm being extremely lazy, my productivity is absolutely in the toilet. I don't give 2 fucks tbh.

Yeah lately I've just been phoning it in. If ever there was a time to do C minus work, this is it."

I genuinely think this is okay and is about looking after yourself.

djh, Thursday, 30 July 2020 18:36 (three years ago) link

I took the rest of this afternoon off. the assignment I was supposed to start on isn't ready, I didn't sleep well, and I would rather just nap

XVI Pedicabo eam (Neanderthal), Thursday, 30 July 2020 18:38 (three years ago) link

"Yeah I dont understand why Im also so fucking tired all the time."

This but ... it's crap working from home. I resent the lack of division between home and work. I resent work filling my brain when I've stopped. I could go for an hour's nap in the middle of the day and would still be actually working harder than any time I'm in the office. I miss the pottering to the work kitchen for a coffee and a natter. I miss going for a lunch break, even though my lunch break was only ever wandering around Wilkos and probably buying nasturtium seeds. I miss my colleagues, even the ones I only quite like. Also, alcohol starts at 1700 instead of 1800, now.

(Disclaimer: really grateful that I'm not being made to work in a risky workplace).

djh, Thursday, 30 July 2020 18:41 (three years ago) link

I held a Psych game night on Zoom for 4-5 people last week and one of my friends couldn't get in (issue with the link) and after 5 minutes I almost called it off cos it felt too much like work helping him troubleshoot. but he got in.

XVI Pedicabo eam (Neanderthal), Thursday, 30 July 2020 18:44 (three years ago) link

"I'm being extremely lazy, my productivity is absolutely in the toilet. I don't give 2 fucks tbh.

Yeah lately I've just been phoning it in. If ever there was a time to do C minus work, this is it."

I genuinely think this is okay and is about looking after yourself.

― djh,

^ this. I was trying extra hard the first couple of months but now I am slowing down a bit.

calstars, Thursday, 30 July 2020 18:53 (three years ago) link

I'm still working too hard lol, nothing else is interesting to me rn

all cats are beautiful (silby), Thursday, 30 July 2020 19:10 (three years ago) link

My org had some incredible things to say as the pandemic was hitting and we were working from home.

The HR chief gave a presentation and there was a slide with the following on it:

Working Remote - COVID 19 Principles
1) You are not "Working From Home," you are "At your home, during a crisis, trying to work."
2) Your personal physical, mental, and emotional health is far more important than anything else right now.
3) You should not try to compensate for lost productivity by working longer hours.
4) You will be kind to yourself and not judge how you are coping based on how you see others coping.
5) You will be kind to others and not judge how they are coping based on how you are coping.
6) Your team's success will not be measured the same way it was when things were normal.

I can't describe to you how much relief this slide gave me, and as a result, I became more productive because I wasn't stressing about how much I was fucking up during the pandemic.

I'm lucky to work where I do, but I hope that maybe some of you will be able to take a couple of these principles and apply them to your situation. Especially point #1, which is a reframing that helped me be a lot kinder to myself.

unashamed and trash (Unctious), Thursday, 30 July 2020 19:59 (three years ago) link

That's nice! We never got an explicit acknowledgement of this kind but I suspect managers received something to this effect, because they've been patient and hands-off throughout.

the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Thursday, 30 July 2020 20:02 (three years ago) link

Ctrl-F "vodka," no results found. Hmph.

Gin and Juice Newton (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 30 July 2020 20:25 (three years ago) link

djh, your post - it me

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 30 July 2020 22:29 (three years ago) link

yeah our company/HR have been very good to us around all this - they were ready to send us all home by the middle of March and hit the ground running on that front (new laptops, headsets, chairs, the lot).

We have weekly video quizzes and regular competitions (best pet, bakeoffs, that sorta thing). I havent felt micromanaged, we're all trusted to just Get Shit Done (this can be a bit deadly for me though, I can slide a little when someone isnt whacking me at least occasionally lol)

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 30 July 2020 23:35 (three years ago) link

"Video quizzes" - to be fair, this would make me resign.

(Sounds good, otherwise).

djh, Friday, 31 July 2020 08:20 (three years ago) link

My office is closed until April and there's discussion at the moment, within my team, as to whether we ever go back. Colleagues have taken the opportunity to move to the US and Europe and work closer to their families and there's not much of a pressing reason to make them come back. The interesting discussion is going to be, come April, what happens if half the team wants to work from the office and half doesn't. There's a fear that it could disrupt collaboration and the team dynamic if you have a core group who see each other every day and a bunch of people who don't. I imagine it'll be optional but the idea of forcing everyone to work from home to put them all on an equal footing has been mooted.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Friday, 31 July 2020 08:51 (three years ago) link

Where I work we’ve been told that wfh in another country isn’t on the cards for tax reasons. Some staff have ill parents elsewhere and would really like to be with them medium-term but it ain’t happening.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 31 July 2020 12:07 (three years ago) link

Hello. This is a Teams/Skype/Zoom etc question.

We're currently working from home and need to do some work via video conferencing rather than in person.

We want to do two things

a) Have conversations with clients, who can't have our email addresses

and

b) Have conversations with groups of clients, who can't have our email addresses or each other's email addresses.

In an ideal world, this would be free (but doesn't absolutely have to be) and very easy to use (particularly for the client).

Any obvious service?

A colleague had set up Skype accounts but it seems that once you've had a "conversation" anyone would have your address.

djh, Thursday, 13 August 2020 19:29 (three years ago) link

zoom is easy to use (and is there anyone in the world who hasn't used it through lockdown? oh you, apparently) and doesn't require email sharing (though you have to send them a link somehow); the free version is limited to 45 mins though.

neith moon (ledge), Friday, 14 August 2020 05:55 (three years ago) link

Thanks Ledge.

djh, Friday, 14 August 2020 07:14 (three years ago) link

Microsoft Teams looks like it's a bit more faff to set up but is also free, don't require email addresses for video con, and doesn't have the annoying 45m min restriction. Been using it at work and the collaborative working tools work surprisingly well ime.

closed beta (NotEnough), Friday, 14 August 2020 07:33 (three years ago) link

Video quality on Teams is better than Zoom as well.

Matt DC, Friday, 14 August 2020 08:32 (three years ago) link

Teams is great

and i can almost smell your PG Tips (Jon not Jon), Friday, 14 August 2020 12:47 (three years ago) link

I liked Skype for Business (ex-Lync) a little more for ease of use, but I am okay with Teams.

I shall now go and ritually scourge my flesh onnaconna praising a product of the evil M$ corporation. Mea maxima culpa

vitreous humorist (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 14 August 2020 14:27 (three years ago) link

We're supposed to be switching to Teams next year campuswide and a few of us are vaguely using a general space for it in the meantime. Reasonable enough from what I can see!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 14 August 2020 14:39 (three years ago) link

teams is very purple

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Friday, 14 August 2020 14:49 (three years ago) link

MS Teams has been a learning adjustment but I like it 3 million times better than WebEx so far.

popeye's arse (Neanderthal), Friday, 14 August 2020 15:01 (three years ago) link

Skype for Business was easier for virtual training only because it was the one environment where few people said "I CAN'T GET INTO MEETING". we used Skype to message each other too, so they were already logged in, and they clicked a link, and boom, meeting open.

whereas WebEx, which we used after, was something people never used except when they were in training so half the time they'd click the link and it'd tell them "if program doesn't open, click here to install temporary file" and the average learner would react like someone was speaking Esperanto.

or....we had the year where our learners using Citrix to access their virtual workspace (FUCK CITRIX UP THE URETHRA OMG) had WebEx crash immediately if they accessed it within Citrix, which required them to access WebEx OUTSIDE of Citrix, meaning they had to spend all day toggling outside and inside Citrix whenever we did activities.

so yeah...I'm full on embracing MS Teams, lol.

popeye's arse (Neanderthal), Friday, 14 August 2020 15:03 (three years ago) link

Been WFH since March and I honestly don't know if I'll be able to handle the transition back to working at an office. It has been lovely basically just rolling out of bed, brushing my teeth, and "going to work" by entering the home office. We're using Google Meet for our meetings since our systems are all Linux systems and thus don't operate anything relating to Microsoft, but I'm also mandated to keep a chatroom up just in case any of our team needs to confer about a work issue and, let me tell you, the "chirpy extrovert" of the group (to steal from a beautiful turn of phrase a friend of mine uses to describe Facebook) has managed to infect that chatroom with her annoyingly chirpy extroversion. But since that is literally the only drawback to this whole set up, I honestly don't mind.

We Live as We Dee, Alone (deethelurker), Friday, 14 August 2020 15:36 (three years ago) link

I'm realizing the reason I used to do so well working from home is it cut out my commute altogether, allowed me to unwind sooner, and then I was able to do more social activities during the week because i didn't have to be up as early the next day, so I could 'reward' myself after a tough day with fun activities, and then I'd get over it. or I didn't dwell on mistakes I made (cos I'm a massive perfectionist and I get embarrassed if I fail at anything)

without this 'reward' system due to COVID, I find my frustration just growing into a bigger and bigger ball to where I just feel worn out by the time the day ends...or I hyperfocus on my mistakes and get bad imposter syndrome. Likewise, even though I'm used to working from home, half the people we teach aren't, so our job got much harder and we just lost a full-time employee, so we're understaffed.

ultimately, the thought process of "look, people are getting sick and dying, it could be much worse" keeps me from despairing too much, and the knowledge that my family is financially secure. thinking maybe I should work a week from the beach or something.

muntjac wagner (Neanderthal), Monday, 17 August 2020 20:20 (three years ago) link

Me, on Tuesday:

"Hey, the trainer in one of my classes is from Woodlands, Texas. Do we have a contingency plan for what happens if he loses power due to the hurricane? Because I can't take his place - remember, I'm leading a class in the morning and my afternoon is booked solid."

~silence~

Me, on Wednesday:

"So, it looks like the Woodlands, Texas will be spared the worst. However, I think it'd be a good idea if we come up with a backup plan in case the forecast changes. Is there a contingency plan?"

"That facilitator lives near me. Nothing's going to happen, we're fine."

"...ok. I gave him my number anyway."

Today:

~text message from facilitator~

"Hi Neanderthal. I lost power 10 minutes ago. The storm didn't really hit us, but because our energy company serves Louisiana, they're doing brownouts here to protect the grid. I don't know when my power will be back up".

I FUCKING TOLD YOU and gave you multiple opportunities to help me find a solution to avoid screwing me over and then the thing you said wouldn't happen happened and now I had to abandon everything I was scheduled to do this afternoon which now puts me half a day behind after I feverishly worked to catch up on Tuesday.

Feels like the President's brand of "wishing away bad news" is infecting my co-workers.

muntjac wagner (Neanderthal), Thursday, 27 August 2020 21:25 (three years ago) link

I wish I could find that faux-pamphlet from a few years back about an office building gradually turning into an overgrown post-apocalyptic ecosystem

― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Thursday, March 12, 2020 6:13 AM (five months ago)

hahaha my friend made this actually --

sarahell, Thursday, 27 August 2020 21:29 (three years ago) link

but also, I have been thinking about the technical aspects of converting office buildings into affordable housing ... there would be regional issues in terms of different zoning/planning codes (as well as building/fire/health) ... things would also depend on the age of the building. ...

sarahell, Thursday, 27 August 2020 21:33 (three years ago) link

Neanderthal that sucks! wtf not understanding what the word contingency means durrrr

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Thursday, 27 August 2020 21:36 (three years ago) link

omg sarahell if you still have that could you ilxmail it to me?!

unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Thursday, 27 August 2020 21:40 (three years ago) link

(to be clear, I'm not mad at the person who lost power, I'm mad at the leaders in charge that kept telling me they didn't need to help find a backup resource for him because "nothing is going to happen with this storm").

xxxxposts

muntjac wagner (Neanderthal), Thursday, 27 August 2020 21:40 (three years ago) link

https://packardjennings.com/2020/02/01/somepic2/

sarahell, Thursday, 27 August 2020 21:43 (three years ago) link

this is why you must become management

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Thursday, 27 August 2020 21:48 (three years ago) link

then you get to argue with other people in management on a regular basis ... uh

sarahell, Thursday, 27 August 2020 22:02 (three years ago) link

many thanks sarahell!

unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Thursday, 27 August 2020 22:03 (three years ago) link

I'll say this. I was a project manager from summer of 2012 to winter (early) of 2015. first year or two, I loved it - I had a way to finally unleash my creativity on my projects, I was good at meetings and talking to clients and well I got to travel a lot of cool places for free. I was a favorite of the director of our dept. and my first few projects went well to where I was getting massive bonuses/performance reviews.

the place became toxic in a way I'd never seen before - micromanaging and intimidation/bully tactics, and my mental health went south and I started being irresponsible and drinking heavily and one night drove home drunk and totaled my car by driving into a wall after I blacked out on a turn. not sure how I didn't get a DUI, but I basically fled that role after that. and the entire department two years ago.

I could maybe return to it at a different company though........just need to gird up my loins and find a company that wins those "best place to work" awards and try it out there.

muntjac wagner (Neanderthal), Thursday, 27 August 2020 22:30 (three years ago) link

(not suggesting that work is to blame for me drinking and driving, cos that was my folly, but it did contribute to the mental downward spiral that I chose to medicate in the wrong way.)

muntjac wagner (Neanderthal), Thursday, 27 August 2020 22:31 (three years ago) link

Do you have the job security to call a dumbass a dumbass?

Scampos Runamuck (WmC), Thursday, 27 August 2020 22:45 (three years ago) link

at this point, yeah, i'm a lifer (almost 16 years) and I didn't get disciplined over my "hot mic" incident so if they were willing to let THAT slide....

muntjac wagner (Neanderthal), Thursday, 27 August 2020 22:48 (three years ago) link

I don't mind trying to keep up to the standard we maintained in the office (allowing for the difficulties associated with remote work). But I do object to having to do a performance review. Especially considering that there probably will be no net pay increases. Is it true that performance reviews only serve employers trying to document a need to fire someone?

Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 19:40 (three years ago) link


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