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how dare you compare auntie to the enemy

James Schneider goes in

The below is my experience of self-styled whistleblower Sam Matthews' commitment to and competence in dealing with cases of antisemitism in the Labour Party.

Some journalists writing Labour antisemitism stories were aware of this but didn't include it in their reporting.

— James Schneider (@schneiderhome) July 22, 2020

scampos mentis (gyac), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 13:59 (three years ago) link

I was surprised that Matthews had suspended a Jewish peace activist, who barely appeared in the report.

when you are dealing with anti-Semitism in the Labour Party don't go easy on Jewish anti-Semites

calzino, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 14:05 (three years ago) link

... and don't be beastly to the holocaust denier! fucking unbelievable

calzino, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 14:10 (three years ago) link

But I do think Hitler should have been condemned for his penchant for baked beans.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6686535/Cold-Tesco-baked-beans-sitting-floor-singing-IRA-songs.html

Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 14:12 (three years ago) link

well there we the definitive proof that Jezza was a nazi!

calzino, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 14:16 (three years ago) link

Hitler was notorious for singing IRA songs too, after a few steins.

Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 14:17 (three years ago) link

tbf some of the IRA were probably singing Adolf Hitler songs back in the day!

calzino, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 14:23 (three years ago) link

Extracts from Dangerous Hero: Corbyn’s Ruthless Plot For Power, by Tom Bower

is the thing here that Corbyn is seen as a sort of class traitor or something, from both angles? an embarrassment to middle class aspiration and respectability but too posh to be a proper working class hero

tbh that describes a lot of professional revolutionaries, maybe they were right to be scared

A certain crank centrist is claiming John Ware is suing Corbyn for libel, though idk over what exactly.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 14:36 (three years ago) link

Hate to say it lads but it's starting to look like Starmzfront Labour might not be very good

À la recherche du scamps perdu (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 14:38 (three years ago) link

Earlier this year, John Ware joined a consortium specifically designed to keep Stephen Pollard in his post. Pollard's star columnist Melanie Phillips helped inspire the worldview of Anders Breivik, who cited her extensively in his manifesto. https://t.co/d76aayyPYe https://t.co/tXEbNDqPdI pic.twitter.com/mI4GUZi30s

— Daniel Finn (@DanFinn95) July 22, 2020

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 14:39 (three years ago) link

did HIGNFY turn parliamentary politics into an establishment roast or was it already like that

Oof. PM takes aim at Starmer for having more ‘flip flops than Bournemouth beach.

But Starmer prepared this time and comes back with a zinger. “This is the former columnist who wrote two versions of every article he every published” #PMQs

— Beth Rigby (@BethRigby) July 22, 2020

By my count Keir was at least 20 zingers ahead.

— Simon Hedges (@Orwell_Fan) July 22, 2020

the hedges reply to that made me chuckle

calzino, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 14:49 (three years ago) link

when does he become so good at this that it becomes part of the problem all over again, but like once removed

the nuclear option that will annihilate Starmer's career will be when Boris just simply retorts "Shut up Roy!".

calzino, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 14:55 (three years ago) link

Oof

prepared this time

nashwan, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 15:08 (three years ago) link

@tnewtondunn
3h
Down pointing backhand indexCorbyn accuses Starmer - a senior QC - of making "a political decision, not a legal one".

KBerg also astonished by the...leader of a political party making a political decision apparently against his legal team's advice.

nashwan, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 15:09 (three years ago) link

“law is apolitical so this is politics not law” is pretty shit hard leftism tbh

when they dig up Tony Benn so they can expel him from the party for a day's positive press coverage, still years out from an election pic.twitter.com/6PhuSm72KP

— LES MONUMENT (@wariotifo) July 22, 2020

calzino, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 22:46 (three years ago) link

Iain McNicol is suing the Labour Party over the leaked antisemitism report, lawyer Mark Lewis tells Newsnight

— Patrick Maguire (@patrickkmaguire) July 22, 2020

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 22:47 (three years ago) link

why did Corbyn ever give this cunt an inch?

calzino, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 22:51 (three years ago) link

"Left" -- "pretty shit hard leftism tbh"

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 22:55 (three years ago) link

it's always been the most comfortably entrenched tory cunts in the labour party who have excelled at stalinist purges, unfortunately.

calzino, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 22:56 (three years ago) link

I was hoping by now that people on the nonright would be acknowledging just how shit Corbyn was and what a useless fucking waste of everything the whole half decade performance was but this current shower is just making them more nostalgic for the old bastard and his comfortingly reliable tepid britleft shitness. awful country

SickFuck Productions

— wint (@dril) July 23, 2020

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 23 July 2020 04:45 (three years ago) link

(xp) Oh great, it's the morning ray of sunshine.

Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 July 2020 07:53 (three years ago) link

Petition to have Left evicted from his username

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 23 July 2020 08:00 (three years ago) link

No, you don't understand, he's called Left because he is the Left, the only one worthy of the name in this whole godforsaken country.

Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 July 2020 08:08 (three years ago) link

Corbyn was the best Labour leader since Michael Foot and brought a lot of hope to people even who had become disengaged with politics even though he was doomed to failure and sabotaged by the lowlife in his own party/campaign team. And he is a very decent human being as well. ffs!

calzino, Thursday, 23 July 2020 08:11 (three years ago) link

xp right, he didn't choose the game, the game chose him?

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 23 July 2020 08:15 (three years ago) link

Free speech is under threat, which is why i have decided to bring libel actions against everyone who thinks i'm terrible.

John Ware here arguing that in today's world of social media "identity politics", free speech is not "sacrosanct", and that he intends his libel cases to discourage Twitter users from calling him a "rogue journalist". pic.twitter.com/7grydg6DUr

— Lafargue (@Lafargue) July 23, 2020

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Thursday, 23 July 2020 08:15 (three years ago) link

I am still sceptical Ware is actually going to sue anyone tbh.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Thursday, 23 July 2020 08:16 (three years ago) link

is john ware jessie ware's da

||||||||, Thursday, 23 July 2020 08:17 (three years ago) link

Calzino: 'best' might mean different things, but fwiw I'd say JC better than Foot. In terms of values, best since Attlee at least?

the pinefox, Thursday, 23 July 2020 08:20 (three years ago) link

I just learnt recently before all the SDP nonsense, donkey jacket slurs and the Falklands War, Foot was persistently polling 20 + points ahead!

calzino, Thursday, 23 July 2020 08:24 (three years ago) link

Yes, they really did a job on him.

Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Thursday, 23 July 2020 08:25 (three years ago) link

One of the reasons you shouldn't use the phrase 'Whack-a-Mole' in relation to outbreaks of a virus is because the mole immediately pops back up again and is never going to go away.

Trying to sue Twitter accounts would be straight-up Whack-a-Mole.

Matt DC, Thursday, 23 July 2020 08:26 (three years ago) link

He's likely talking about The Canary, Novara, etc

Rolling the dice on whether 12 random members of the public think it's fair comment to call a journalist a liar is something i would still advise against, tbh.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Thursday, 23 July 2020 08:28 (three years ago) link

Corbynism was probably always doomed, but still no need trash him or his legacy, all the odds were stacked against him. He might not have been the most dynamic leader but definitely the most consistently principled and decent one.

calzino, Thursday, 23 July 2020 08:29 (three years ago) link

John Ware is a terrible Islamophobe apart from anything else. Several melty types who are happy to provide platforms to sex pests sharing that JC piece and calling it ‘barnstorming’ - also JC now has Woodcock on its board, speaking of sex pests...

santa clause four (suzy), Thursday, 23 July 2020 08:33 (three years ago) link

Jesus Christ he is literally Jessie’s da!


What pic.twitter.com/AzMJDbvytR

— Simon Hedges (@Orwell_Fan) July 23, 2020

scampos mentis (gyac), Thursday, 23 July 2020 08:37 (three years ago) link

lol! you've got be joking!

calzino, Thursday, 23 July 2020 08:39 (three years ago) link

She is the daughter of Helena (née Keell, always called Lennie), a social worker, and John Ware, a BBC Panorama reporter, who divorced when she was 10.

scampos mentis (gyac), Thursday, 23 July 2020 08:40 (three years ago) link

jessie ware cancelled

||||||||, Thursday, 23 July 2020 08:40 (three years ago) link

I am still sceptical Ware is actually going to sue anyone tbh.

― Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Thursday, 23 July 2020 bookmarkflaglink

Yes, iirc Guardian report yesterday said he was taking advice from his lawyers.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 23 July 2020 08:47 (three years ago) link

His lawyer is Martin Lewis iirc so i wouldn't completely rule it out but any normal one would tell him to drop it.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Thursday, 23 July 2020 08:50 (three years ago) link

I believe Jessie took some shit for her continued Labour support. I'm not sure Twitter has made the connection yet but kinda feel sorry for her if someone does decide to instigate a pile-on.

Matt DC, Thursday, 23 July 2020 08:52 (three years ago) link

Wonder if McNicol has a chance to win the action against Labour. The party finances will be in a worse shape (not least because many will have left), but maybe that's the chance to get big money back in.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 23 July 2020 09:38 (three years ago) link


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