US Politics: July 2020 - "Denigrating this Luxury Avenue"

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IMO Kasich is only going to become a story if he starts cursing out an empty chair, otherwise everyone is going to forget he was in the room, much like what happened when he ran for President.

shout-out to his family (DJP), Monday, 20 July 2020 19:47 (three years ago) link

Lieberman wasn’t always a Republican asshole?

beamish13, Monday, 20 July 2020 19:49 (three years ago) link

Isn't having someone from the other party speak at the convention always considered a big "get" by political dopes? Zell Miller in '04, Lieberman in '08, Bloomberg (sorta) in 2016. Also, Ron Reagan Jr., I guess.

― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, July 20, 2020 2:45 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Exactly. It's a tradition.

I have no problem with Kasich speaking. It's not like he's writing the party platform.

jaymc, Monday, 20 July 2020 19:51 (three years ago) link

Jeez, I forgot that Lieberman spoke at the Republican convention (after having been on the Democratic ticket eight years previously). Ass.

I pity the foo fighter (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 20 July 2020 19:58 (three years ago) link

I doubt there’s a person on Earth who won’t vote for Biden because Kasich spoke, but it’s a stupid tradition and everyone who’s ever been a Republican officeholder post-1968 should be publicly shunned like Cersei Lannister.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Monday, 20 July 2020 19:58 (three years ago) link

Please no, I don't wanna see any more old white dick in my life

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Monday, 20 July 2020 20:00 (three years ago) link

Why do people keep saying this? https://t.co/xmANsnPlS2

— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) July 20, 2020

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 July 2020 20:01 (three years ago) link

The members of the Biden/Sanders unity task force -- i.e. the people with actual influence over Biden's platform https://t.co/3HSh2oo3Uz pic.twitter.com/lidqconLMm

— Scott Lemieux (@LemieuxLGM) July 20, 2020

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 July 2020 20:01 (three years ago) link

It's pretty obviously a separate issue and question from "Biden's platform."

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Monday, 20 July 2020 20:04 (three years ago) link

Please no, I don't wanna see any more old white dick in my life

was gonna put this in the "out of context" thread but it's kinda not out of context in almost any situation
feels like you could use it interchangeably with "christ what an asshole" as a universal New Yorker cartoon caption

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 20 July 2020 20:04 (three years ago) link

Many people might be less credulous than Matty about Biden's ideological rebirth given his stances of, uh, three months ago.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Monday, 20 July 2020 20:05 (three years ago) link

Please no, I don't wanna see any more old white dick in my life

my mantra since '07

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 July 2020 20:06 (three years ago) link

Yet again: I don't wanna see any more old white dick in my life

The speaker roster at a convention is like a variety show. Ed Sullivan would always have a segment "for the kiddos" and another for "the young folks", with crooners and bad stand up "for the whole family", and so on. It's the Big Tent Theory in action. The pundits get to play Kremlinologist over the list and the order of speakers, which makes them happy.

You don't have to pay attention to much, if any, of it. The VP choice and first speech is probably the only marginally interesting thing we can expect, if only because Biden is old enough to die in office.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Monday, 20 July 2020 20:13 (three years ago) link

There have to be at least a few republican senators left who will refuse to embrace that much chaos on behalf of Dear Leader.

evergreen

singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 20 July 2020 20:18 (three years ago) link

Lucy van Pelt’s arms just never get tired.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Monday, 20 July 2020 20:27 (three years ago) link

Many people might be less credulous than Matty about Biden's ideological rebirth given his stances of, uh, three months ago.

― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Monday, July 20, 2020 3:05 PM (sixteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

If anything, Biden has shown throughout his career that he doesn't have a lot of fixed policy stances. He's always in the middle of the party. At the height of the Clinton years, that meant supporting the Hyde Amendment and the crime bill. But as the party has moved left, so has he. Right now, there's a greater appetite within the party (not just from its left-most flank) for large-scale change, so he's riding that wave. He's probably not going to advocate for the most radical ideas, but I can't imagine him reverting to some more-conservative position if it's no longer actually popular.

jaymc, Monday, 20 July 2020 20:38 (three years ago) link

It's the least risible quality of a hack.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 July 2020 20:39 (three years ago) link

if it's no longer popular profitable

singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 20 July 2020 20:41 (three years ago) link

not being flip—these things overlap from time to time

singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 20 July 2020 20:41 (three years ago) link

I didn’t realize that July 2019 was the height of the Clinton era tbh

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Monday, 20 July 2020 20:54 (three years ago) link

The idea that he’s been an ideological chameleon just following others’ lead is horseshit. He didn’t ‘move left with the party’ as evidenced by his primary campaign in the deep dark past of... March.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Monday, 20 July 2020 20:55 (three years ago) link

I understand, milo. If Biden wins, he'll call for a new NAFTA, wonder why the Dem House and Senate haven't proposed a new crime bill, and nominate a moderate Republican to the Supreme Court on the advice of Vice President-Elect Kasich.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 July 2020 21:02 (three years ago) link

“His only real interest is political expediency” would make it more likely for him to kowtow to conservative backers, anyway. Then he can get things done with his grand bargains.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Monday, 20 July 2020 21:03 (three years ago) link

mmhmm I see

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 July 2020 21:04 (three years ago) link

Presidency's gonna be dissolved anyway

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Monday, 20 July 2020 21:05 (three years ago) link

xp - yes, that’s an unbelievable thought for the guy who last month offered up increasIng police funding by $300bn. Really reading the mood of Democratic voters and responding appropriately.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Monday, 20 July 2020 21:06 (three years ago) link

Like Obama, Biden is essentially a 1970’s Republican

beamish13, Monday, 20 July 2020 22:37 (three years ago) link

how often is this argument going to happen

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 20 July 2020 22:40 (three years ago) link

who's kerry duggan, is she the mom from that Holy Shit Sixteen Children show on tlc

all cats are beautiful (silby), Monday, 20 July 2020 22:42 (three years ago) link

remember them

all cats are beautiful (silby), Monday, 20 July 2020 22:43 (three years ago) link

how often is this argument going to happen

Every 12 hours until November, and every 24 hours thereafter.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 20 July 2020 22:51 (three years ago) link

it's as if a Bidensignal goes out in the sky for milo's benefit.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 00:55 (three years ago) link

Biden is essentially a 1970’s Republican

1970s Republicans came in a lot of flavors, from Goldwater and Reagan to Tom McCall, Oregon's governor, who held a state-sponsored three day rock music festival smaller than - but similar to - Woodstock, including the drugs and nudity.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 01:04 (three years ago) link

it's as if a Bidensignal goes out in the sky for milo's benefit.

More a “someone posted another dumb Yglesias take” signal.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 01:09 (three years ago) link

no, the dumb take there was the idea that republicans will "have 10x more influence on Biden and the DNC than the entire progressive wing," which is so stupid that only the #neverbiden crowd could believe it

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 01:16 (three years ago) link

I’m sure that Jay Caspian King meant that as a literal percentage, being a measurable statistic and all.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 01:23 (three years ago) link

Police activity is being reported at Ohio House Speaker Larry Householder’s farm in Perry County and the U.S. Attorney’s office said it is holding a 2:30 p.m. press conference today related to $60 million in bribes paid to a state official and associates.

FBI Special Agent in Charge Chris Hoffman and U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of Ohio David DeVillers are expected to brief the press on a federal racketeering case, a news advisory says.

Householder, a farmer and businessman in Glenford, has led the GOP-controlled Ohio House since January 2019. He previously held the speaker’s gavel 2001 to 2004 but left due to term limits....

https://www.daytondailynews.com/news/breaking-news-fbi-agents-are-at-ohio-house-speaker-larry-householders-farm/JCKHFEK4ZFH5HJF5O4MCP3BY2M/

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 14:14 (three years ago) link

wow.

Larry Householder came to hold the most power in THE Ohio state House, and then he went mad with power

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 14:26 (three years ago) link

Lol in this picture the guy is giving Traficant a run for his money for "guy most likely to be corrupt."
https://www.daytondailynews.com/resizer/8GW1uXAscGBf2iqiuzBoyT6Bz_8=/1066x600/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/coxohio/IKSRQNY2DWJC52R3CGTJK2HJDA.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 14:30 (three years ago) link

You don’t get those rolls unless you’re swimming in dirty money that’s for sure

all cats are beautiful (silby), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 14:31 (three years ago) link

Illinois speaker of the house seems to be on borrowed time as well.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 14:33 (three years ago) link

$60 million is some clown shit. At that point, you're basically screaming "ARREST ME PLZ"

shout-out to his family (DJP), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 15:18 (three years ago) link

Even for Ohio politics this is just carelessness. The nuclear angle is not confirmed as yet but I suspect that's what it is. https://t.co/iilOtFVtol

— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) July 21, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 15:25 (three years ago) link

Idk I admire him holding out for a cool 60 mil, most of these machine freaks can be had for like 100 grand and a rub and tug at a Ruth’s Chris Steakhouse

all cats are beautiful (silby), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 15:31 (three years ago) link

upgrading Ohio Republican corruption from the Mark Hanna/McKinley days

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 15:33 (three years ago) link

A million here, a million there... pretty soon you're talkin about real money

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 15:34 (three years ago) link

what are the most corrupt state governments? NY/RI/OH/IL pop to mind, but maybe i just haven't heard enough about FL/WI/NC etc

mookieproof, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 15:35 (three years ago) link

Florida isn't corrupt, just moronic.

The charter school racket might rank closest.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 15:40 (three years ago) link


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