I can no longer imagine feeling bad for kanye and I've felt that way for some time tbh
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Monday, 20 July 2020 15:55 (three years ago) link
people shouldn't take Elon Musk seriously either but alas we live in a society where being born rich is continued a great virtue which allows you to essentially invent your own reality where you can just dismiss every real problem as a hoax
― frogbs, Monday, 20 July 2020 16:00 (three years ago) link
i can't help but feel a little badly for ye, since he's surrounded by enablers and his only family is america's pre-eminent group of fame-obsessed narcissists
― mozzy star (voodoo chili), Monday, 20 July 2020 16:10 (three years ago) link
it was pretty weird when he was forced at gunpoint to marry Kim K
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Monday, 20 July 2020 16:13 (three years ago) link
that was weird
― mozzy star (voodoo chili), Monday, 20 July 2020 16:35 (three years ago) link
Also weird how they kept playing "White Wedding" throughout the entire ceremony
― shout-out to his family (DJP), Monday, 20 July 2020 16:42 (three years ago) link
Kate, re: mental health, you work hard to try to take care of yourself. Kanye pretty clearly thinks taking his meds and/or ensuring his prescriptions are actually working isn’t worth the time.
― sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Monday, 20 July 2020 17:11 (three years ago) link
Loving the news either going with confused, bad faith readings or just consciously lying w/r/t the Harriet Tubman quote.
Malcolm X Claims Giant Rock Fell From Sky and Landed on Black Americans
― The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 20 July 2020 17:20 (three years ago) link
Kim is and always has been a much better person than he is imo.
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Monday, 20 July 2020 17:22 (three years ago) link
― sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto)
i do work hard to try and take care of myself! i also have a lot of people i trust who care about me and support me and have been very patient with me, so when i start thinking i should start randomly cold-turkeying my meds because clearly they aren't working, the people who care about me persuade me to hang on until i can actually see a professional to evaluate my meds even if it _is_ a two month wait, and i agree because i remember what happened when i cold-turkeyed the benzos.
― Kate (rushomancy), Monday, 20 July 2020 17:25 (three years ago) link
I know that from your posts on 77. I can see how you might’ve misread my post.
― sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Monday, 20 July 2020 18:09 (three years ago) link
Ye probably gets bored of his meds on the regular and just forgets they’re even in the medicine cabinet
― sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Monday, 20 July 2020 18:10 (three years ago) link
i don't think i was misreading it! i'm just not inclined to judge anybody else for how they handle their mental health issues until or unless it directly affects me.
― Kate (rushomancy), Monday, 20 July 2020 18:12 (three years ago) link
Let’s just say I have personal reasons that cause me to have extremely low patience with people who refuse to attend to their diagnoses when care is available and effective. It’s not as if Ye is a victim of our country’s fucked up healthcare system.
― sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Monday, 20 July 2020 18:13 (three years ago) link
fair!
― Kate (rushomancy), Monday, 20 July 2020 18:16 (three years ago) link
Kanye is a tragic story predominantly of his own making is how i break it down to an extent.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 20 July 2020 18:17 (three years ago) link
I just want to see how Bret Easton Ellis will spin this intoKanye being persecuted by “the left”. It’s awful reading, but I was genuinely mesmerized by Ellis’ impassioned, horrifically misguided attempt to rehabilitate the public image of a fellow narcissist/artistic collaborator in his book WHITE (!)
― beamish13, Monday, 20 July 2020 19:07 (three years ago) link
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses)
i don't disagree. just like i don't disagree that, you know, wesley snipes listening to those people who told him that he didn't have to pay taxes, that's ultimately his responsibility. i just also see, when i look at kanye, someone who has spent the last fifteen years in the panopticon. i have a hard time seeing a timeline in which things worked out better for him. there's lots of people who have their heads screwed on better than kanye right now, that's for sure, but i wonder if that'll still be the case five years from now. i wonder how someone who's had the experiences kanye has had is supposed to _not_ go completely fucking batshit crazy in 2020.
― Kate (rushomancy), Monday, 20 July 2020 19:15 (three years ago) link
i think his life (and artistic career, and music as a whole) looks very different if his mom doesn't tragically pass away
― mozzy star (voodoo chili), Monday, 20 July 2020 19:26 (three years ago) link
seems like plenty of people manage it just fine
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Monday, 20 July 2020 19:27 (three years ago) link
or at least don't turn into raving shitheads for years on end
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.)
ok. i don't know those people. who are some of them?
― Kate (rushomancy), Monday, 20 July 2020 19:30 (three years ago) link
i agree that things happen for a reason and i have some real sadness that Kanye - artistically, publicly, politically - has mostly disappeared so far up his own ass. At the same time, he and his family have chosen to be complicit with the Trump administration with the intent of getting federal favors in exchange for celebrity shine and, regardless of how righteous the asks they've made are, complicity with this administration means you can fuck off imo.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 20 July 2020 19:58 (three years ago) link
I dunno, take your pick of ultrarich hollywood celebrities who turn out as boring milquetoast liberals despite decades of fame? some of them are even black!
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Monday, 20 July 2020 20:01 (three years ago) link
ulysses otm
― k3vin k., Monday, 20 July 2020 20:02 (three years ago) link
unless "the experiences kanye's had" refers to something other than the Perils Of Super-Icon-Dom And Untold Riches and I'm just not getting it. xp
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Monday, 20 July 2020 20:02 (three years ago) link
i think that there is a particular _sort_ of "genius" that is celebrated in people like kanye in a way that is essentially brutal and traumatic, those expectations. and i, being white, i can't speak to the _role_ of blackness in that trauma, but i see a lot of other "geniuses" who seem to get really incredibly fucked up by it in a way that Untold Riches and Superstardom really oughtn't do.
― Kate (rushomancy), Monday, 20 July 2020 20:09 (three years ago) link
like, i'm not defending kanye, the man means nothing to me. it just makes me uneasy when the narrative starts and ends at "he is a Bad Person", what the fuck is this world where all the people who are important and powerful are Bad People?
― Kate (rushomancy), Monday, 20 July 2020 20:14 (three years ago) link
I agree with that, I'm just not sure why we should give him the benefit of the doubt over against other Bad People who are likely struggling with their own cast of demons.
― pomenitul, Monday, 20 July 2020 20:18 (three years ago) link
i don't think we should be. fuck kanye, that's how i feel, personally. if we're going to talk about kanye, i'd rather move on to the larger problems that affect those other people.
― Kate (rushomancy), Monday, 20 July 2020 20:20 (three years ago) link
life is basically hell for basically everybody
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Monday, 20 July 2020 20:21 (three years ago) link
that's the spirit
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 20 July 2020 20:24 (three years ago) link
New board description.
xp
― pomenitul, Monday, 20 July 2020 20:26 (three years ago) link
Wtf!? Why tear down Harriet Tubman of all people? I’m not sure if I’m missing context to what he said before or after - though I’m sure it was on the same level of stupid - but I don’t see how it would benefit his “political campaign” at all. I don’t see how it would even benefit his album sales. I don’t see what the endgame is here but he keeps tarnishing his legacy.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 20 July 2020 20:33 (three years ago) link
Remember his batshit hot take on the 13th Amendment? There’s a pattern here.
― pomenitul, Monday, 20 July 2020 20:35 (three years ago) link
he's after the challops vote
― Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 20 July 2020 20:35 (three years ago) link
This just makes me sad.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 20 July 2020 20:35 (three years ago) link
West-Musk 2020
― pomenitul, Monday, 20 July 2020 20:38 (three years ago) link
He keeps making it hard to separate art from the artist. Why should I care about the good ideas he once had, the great albums and songs, his most personal lyrics documenting his rise to fame, if I know it ends with a series of bullshit after bullshit after bullshit. I keep expecting a redemption arc from him but I’m not sure it will come anymore.
At this point I’m not angry anymore I’m just very disappointed.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 20 July 2020 20:43 (three years ago) link
He's not tearing down Harriet Tubman, he's saying that black people still aren't free
― The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 20 July 2020 20:44 (three years ago) link
even Musk, idiot charlatan that he is, has backed off xps
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Monday, 20 July 2020 20:47 (three years ago) link
If that’s the case then it’s actually kind of in character for him? He sort of expresses the same theme in “all falls down”.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 20 July 2020 20:48 (three years ago) link
Examples:
We shine because they hate us, floss cause they degrade us. We trying to buy back our 40 acres. And for that paper, look how low we a'stoop. Even if you in a Benz, you still a n***a in a coop/coupe
I say fuck the police, that's how I treat em. We buy our way out of jail, but we can't buy freedom. We'll buy a lot of clothes when we don't really need em. Things we buy to cover up what's inside. Cause they make us hate ourself and love they wealth. That's why shortys hollering "where the ballas' at?" Drug dealer buy Jordans, crackhead buy crack. And a white man get paid off of all of that.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 20 July 2020 20:50 (three years ago) link
Even if that’s the idea behind it, which isn’t really that controversial, I don’t like that he feels the need to shit on Harriet Tubman’s legacy to make a point.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 20 July 2020 20:51 (three years ago) link
maybe but its still in the sense of "you're not free because you vote Democrat instead of listening to Candice Owens"
― frogbs, Monday, 20 July 2020 20:51 (three years ago) link
Back then he had yet to find Jesus, i.e. himself.
― pomenitul, Monday, 20 July 2020 20:51 (three years ago) link
lol
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Monday, 20 July 2020 20:53 (three years ago) link
Might as well shit on his adidas deal because he’s making a bunch of white men richer.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 20 July 2020 20:58 (three years ago) link
This is the first video I've seen that gives more context. It seems like he was going for what Whiney said (although focusing on the ownership of a few major corporations is a bit idk) but it still seems pretty strange, with stuff about how "you don't see the real power" and apparently concluding (?) that it all needs to change with him ending up on the boards of Adidas and Gap.
Here’s more context to what Kanye said. pic.twitter.com/Xv4mMFYqeg— Raury (@Raury) July 20, 2020
― Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Monday, 20 July 2020 21:08 (three years ago) link
Oh so, he is actually shitting on his adidas deal then? Lol
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 20 July 2020 21:14 (three years ago) link