US Politics: July 2020 - "Denigrating this Luxury Avenue"

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all cats are beautiful (silby), Sunday, 19 July 2020 05:24 (three years ago) link

the fact that he's under an NDA makes me think the tweet is not the whole story.

I think you are probably right about this.

jaymc, Sunday, 19 July 2020 05:30 (three years ago) link

Officers appeared near the federal courthouse around 10:40 p.m. and deployed tear gas. It was unclear whether they were federal officers or Portland police.

Soon after, officers retreated into the courthouse building and protestors began barricading the doors of the building again. Some began flooding the courthouse steps, banging on the doors as they barricaded them.

A reporter from The Portland Tribune posted a social media video of federal officers striking a protester repeatedly with a baton and spraying pepper spray in his face. The protester did not seem to engage with the officers in any way and stood still as he was hit.

Close to midnight, some protesters began throwing firecrackers at the courthouse. They continued to barricade the doors of the federal courthouse.

By 12:30 a.m., demonstrators had largely abandoned the federal courthouse, instead holding a rally in the intersection of Southwest Third Avenue and Main Street, where people were giving speeches from the bed of a truck.

https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2020/07/saturday-evening-protests-planned-at-holladay-and-peninsula-parks.html

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 19 July 2020 11:42 (three years ago) link

If only!

WASHINGTON — During a campaign-style speech this week in the White House Rose Garden, President Donald Trump lamented that his efforts to turn Joe Biden’s son into a political vulnerability for the Democrat had flopped.

“But Hunter — where’s Hunter?” Trump said, referencing the younger Biden’s lucrative position on the board of a Ukrainian gas company while his father was vice president. “And you all know about Burisma, but nothing happens. Nobody cares.”

It’s one of many punches by Trump that have failed to land on his Democratic rival. He has called him “sleepy Joe” and derided him as too tired and unfit to do the job. He has mocked him for a steady stream of verbal stumbles. He has painted him as a tool of China. He has linked him to a “defund the police” movement that Biden has rejected. None of it is sticking.

As a result, the president and his allies have settled on a different strategy: Paint Biden as an empty vessel for socialist radicals to exploit. Trump’s new campaign manager Bill Stepien said Tuesday, “We will expose Joe Biden as a hapless tool of the extreme left.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/unable-land-hits-biden-trump-paints-him-socialist-trojan-horse-n1234241

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 19 July 2020 13:21 (three years ago) link

Can I vote for him?

The Fields o' Fat Henry (Tom D.), Sunday, 19 July 2020 13:31 (three years ago) link

As always, “You all know about xxxx, but nothing happens, nobody cares” - the continuing sad truth of the Trump experiment - is the thing they try to weaponize against their opponent.

Orson Well Yeah (Dan Peterson), Sunday, 19 July 2020 13:50 (three years ago) link

“An empty vessel to exploit.”

Orson Well Yeah (Dan Peterson), Sunday, 19 July 2020 13:52 (three years ago) link

Apparently he spent a significant portion of today's Fox News Sunday interview (fuck you, I ain't watching that shit) talking about how difficult the cognitive test he took was, as though it's the fucking SAT and not a test to see whether or not you have brain damage.

This is a back and forth that actually happened. pic.twitter.com/irfUpHJjzb

— Zeke Miller (@ZekeJMiller) July 19, 2020

but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 19 July 2020 13:57 (three years ago) link

Race relations comes in third (10%)... Crime? Well crime is at just 1%... Also of note, more voters said Trump say Trump isn't mentally sound enough to serve as prez effectively (51%) than say the same for Biden (39%). 2/3

— (((Harry Enten))) (@ForecasterEnten) July 19, 2020



Crime, the issue the trump campaign is running on, is the most important issue to 1% of respondents. Also everyone thinks he’s nuts.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 19 July 2020 15:47 (three years ago) link

We’re 30 years out from the Reagan crime peak, where do they think they’re gonna find voters for whom “crime” is a presidential campaign issue

all cats are beautiful (silby), Sunday, 19 July 2020 16:13 (three years ago) link

Probably get more votes for Crime and the City Solution.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 19 July 2020 16:28 (three years ago) link

I'm glad that it's only polling at 1% because if you survey only nextdoor respondents, every street is on fire and homes are being pillaged left and right, and you're likely to be shot to death in a robbery the minute you leave your house.

akm, Sunday, 19 July 2020 16:30 (three years ago) link

Nextdoor Naxis are a real problem but I don’t think even they consider crime to be a presidential issue

all cats are beautiful (silby), Sunday, 19 July 2020 16:38 (three years ago) link

want to understand but don't understand your post table

― Dan S, Saturday, July 18, 2020 6:57 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

IMHO, anything that does the work of invalidating the disenfranchised's expression of rage at an unjust system because that rage scares more well-off, mostly white people is implying that more liberal or left-wing electoral loss can be blamed on riots rather than blamed on the shitty politics of suburban people. The view, then, casts the disenfranchised as their own enemy for daring to express rage, rather than place the blame on the inherently conservative, reactionary politics of suburban white women with regional manager husbands. It reinforces a cycle of shifting blame onto the poor for being poor.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Sunday, 19 July 2020 16:45 (three years ago) link

And that shifting of blame is a method of social control.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Sunday, 19 July 2020 16:45 (three years ago) link

I didn't used to think this but now I do: it's really important that Trump get crushed by a huge popular vote margin. The safe state arguments don't hold now. He must be humiliated.

— Doug Henwood (@DougHenwood) July 18, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 19 July 2020 16:53 (three years ago) link

dr morbius... welcome to the resistance

trapped out the barndo (crüt), Sunday, 19 July 2020 16:56 (three years ago) link

Doug Henwood otm

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 19 July 2020 16:57 (three years ago) link

oh youve got a ways to go on me....

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 19 July 2020 16:59 (three years ago) link

(what pct of the voting populace do you think knows Trump lost the popular vote in '16? surely less than half)

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 19 July 2020 17:00 (three years ago) link

Doug Henning otm.
https://doughenningproject.files.wordpress.com/2017/04/cropped-doug1.jpg?w=200

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 19 July 2020 17:15 (three years ago) link

i meant to post this one... Some of the replies are funny.

Big if true: Trump says a Biden victory would mean the end of religion!

— Doug Henwood (@DougHenwood) July 19, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 19 July 2020 17:21 (three years ago) link

i meant to post this one... Some of the replies are funny.

Big if true: Trump says a Biden victory would mean the end of religion!

— Doug Henwood (@DougHenwood) July 19, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 19 July 2020 17:21 (three years ago) link

Rage-o-centric popular political theory 🤔

retail rage is for suckers (Hunt3r), Sunday, 19 July 2020 18:09 (three years ago) link

welcome to 2020 polling, where the two presumed candidates running for president of the united states of america are respectively negatively polling at 51% and 39%, not with their awareness of issues domestic or abroad, moral stance or even their general fitness for the position, but for their ability to SPEAK COHERENTLY ON CAMERA FOR TEN MINUTES

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 19 July 2020 19:02 (three years ago) link

This is really our fault for cheering on teens who talked an elderly guy into running for president so they could run his twittter account

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 20 July 2020 01:58 (three years ago) link

Kanye criticizing Tubman and ranting about other things yesterday, but I thought he's said a week or two back he actually wasn't running? (yes I know, not that it matters because he won't be on the ballot anywhere anyway)

akm, Monday, 20 July 2020 15:40 (three years ago) link

Apparently one of his misinformed(?) spokespeople said he wasn't running, but that got walked back.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 20 July 2020 15:43 (three years ago) link

Why would you think he won't be on the ballot anywhere?

Dan I., Monday, 20 July 2020 15:43 (three years ago) link

He's already on the ballot in Oklahoma.

jaymc, Monday, 20 July 2020 15:47 (three years ago) link

Why would you think he won't be on the ballot anywhere?


He’s missed a bunch of deadlines

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 20 July 2020 15:47 (three years ago) link

obviously, i mean oklahoma is key to the kanye electoral map, absolutely essential to win if he has a path

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Monday, 20 July 2020 15:48 (three years ago) link

Ah I misunderstood the q. He will be on the ballot in >0 states

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 20 July 2020 15:48 (three years ago) link

Colorado requires $1000, deadline 8/5
Georgia requires 5250 signatures, deadline 8/14
Iowa requires 1500 signatures, deadline 8/14
Minnesota requires 2000 signatures, deadline 8/18
Missouri requires 1000 signatures, deadline 7/27
Nevada requires 9608 signatures, deadline 8/14
New Hampshire requires 3000 signatures, deadline 9/2
Ohio requires 5000 signatures, deadline 8/5
Pennsylvania requires 5000 signatures, deadline 8/3
Virginia requires 5000 signatures, deadline 8/21
Wisconsin requires 2000 signatures, deadline 8/4

Dan I., Monday, 20 July 2020 15:53 (three years ago) link

Not as many as you'd think based on the reporting. He's been scrambling to get on the ballot in the states with deadlines this month, but he's still eligible in 40+ states.

jaymc, Monday, 20 July 2020 15:55 (three years ago) link

Sorry, that was in response to caek saying "He's missed a bunch of deadlines."

jaymc, Monday, 20 July 2020 15:56 (three years ago) link

A billionaire doesn't really have to be smart or mentally stable to get something done. He just needs to say that he wants it and his money makes it happen for him.

Dan I., Monday, 20 July 2020 15:56 (three years ago) link

wait, did someone say someone with lots of money wants something to happen???

*runs toward the loudest noise, stomping all over whatever is in the way*

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Monday, 20 July 2020 16:05 (three years ago) link

This really is just the worst motherfucking timeline.

Why does this relates to Yoda? (Old Lunch), Monday, 20 July 2020 16:05 (three years ago) link

where do they think they’re gonna find voters for whom “crime” is a presidential campaign issue

There are millions and millions of people who think "crime" (by which they mean mugging, rape, and home invasion, not tax fraud, wage theft, and public corruption) are at all-time highs even though the rate is half what it was within their lifetimes.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 20 July 2020 16:08 (three years ago) link

xxxx..xxpost
Sure they ought to be able to range without blame being placed on them for it.
And then watch what that leads to in election results. Unfortunately elections are decided by emotional reactions, not true justified morality.

Bnad, Monday, 20 July 2020 16:11 (three years ago) link

rage, not range

Bnad, Monday, 20 July 2020 16:11 (three years ago) link

Are we really going to get into the semantics of what a fuckin' "bunch" is again?

10 states is a "bunch" of states, and Oklahoma is one state where you can buy your way onto the ballot, of which there are only 3. He's trying to gather the signatures for South Carolina right now, but there are already problems where he listed places people could supply their signatures, only for people at those locations to have no idea what Ye was talking about.

He's also directing people to Docusign even though it's unclear if SC allows DocuSign to count as signatures.

It's pretty obvious that his "ground game" is disjointed and he will likely fail to get needed signatures by the deadlines in many other states.

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Monday, 20 July 2020 16:16 (three years ago) link

President Trump on Monday said he will resume giving regular coronavirus briefings this week, reviving a practice that is controversial among some aides as infections surge across the United States. Trump told reporters in the Oval Office he would deliver a briefing at 5 p.m. on Tuesday.

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Monday, 20 July 2020 16:17 (three years ago) link

The only reason Biden shouldnt bait this camera hog into TV debates is the risk of his own verbal slapstick.

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Monday, 20 July 2020 16:18 (three years ago) link

A billionaire doesn't really have to be smart or mentally stable to get something done. He just needs to say that he wants it and his money makes it happen for him.

― Dan I., Monday, July 20, 2020 11:56 AM bookmarkflaglink

Sure, and this is why said billionaire attempted to get 132,000 signatures in FL, even hiring a staffer and team to gather the signatures, only to say "fuck it" when he realized it was too difficult and let the deadline pass, and firing the staff he just hired

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Monday, 20 July 2020 16:18 (three years ago) link

but think about how many temp jobs that created

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Monday, 20 July 2020 16:19 (three years ago) link

I wouldn't be shocked if he only appears on buy-in states and a handful of other scattered states

Xpost lol KM

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Monday, 20 July 2020 16:20 (three years ago) link

Neanderthal, I really appreciate the reality check you are giving here, but I think it could be forgiven for people to really be a little on edge about things happening that "shouldn't" happen. All it takes will be Ye getting on one ballot and siphoning just enough votes for either Trump to take said state, or enough for Trump to throw an absolute shitfit about "voter fraud" and make it another sticking point, both of which could 100% be avoided by, you know, him just not running at all.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 20 July 2020 16:20 (three years ago) link

There are so many things for us to worry about right now that I think it's perfectly reasonable to prioritize "Kanye West's Presidential run" at the bottom of the pile; for me, it's currently underneath "Getting An STI From A Toilet Seat"

shout-out to his family (DJP), Monday, 20 July 2020 16:22 (three years ago) link


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