david foster wallace: classic or dud

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readin oblivion; it sucks

FUCKIN 'TALLICA BRO (cankles), Tuesday, 30 June 2009 15:26 (fourteen years ago) link

i read like 4 stories from it and was pretty 50/50 on 'em...then i gave up.

not really my thing tbh.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 15:27 (fourteen years ago) link

the one to read is Infinite Jest--it's his best work by a long shot everything else, for the most part is another level down in terms of quality

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 15:28 (fourteen years ago) link

Just out of curiosity, has DeLillo been adopted onto curricula beyond White Noise? Am asking because I don't think anyone thinks of Sandra Cisneros as a major writer, despite the fact that House on Mango Street is hella read in high schools and colleges. I mean, it's pretty obvious to me that DeLillo is more of a major writer than Cisneros is -- but I don't know that we can go by "he's read in English classes" as the sole standard.

great gabbneb's ghost (jaymc), Tuesday, 30 June 2009 15:31 (fourteen years ago) link

i never finished oblivion; i didnt hate it but at the time it was just too dense & involved and i was beginning to dread picking it up to read.

broom of the system is great & funny and easier to read. and not as big and intimidating as IJ

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Tuesday, 30 June 2009 15:33 (fourteen years ago) link

i said to cankles the other day that i wanted to jump to defend oblivion but i felt like someone going "no no jerry garcia's playing on the 70s versions of dark star is totally different"

broom of the system's first chapter is a glimmer of real potential; a lot of the rest of the book he spends being the sort of writer he spent a lot of the rest of his career kicking against

thomp, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 15:42 (fourteen years ago) link

my po-mo/contemporary american lit. course as an undergrad had cosmopolis on it, by the way: i get the feeling this one might be on a lot of syllabi bcz it's easy to teach in a "Hey, kids, this is what POSTMODERNISM looks like" way, like the dead father is.

thomp, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 15:44 (fourteen years ago) link

oblivion is patchy but "good old neon" and "oblivion" are undeniably great.

jed_, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 16:04 (fourteen years ago) link

good old neon is the only one i actively hated

FUCKIN 'TALLICA BRO (cankles), Tuesday, 30 June 2009 16:09 (fourteen years ago) link

guess undeniably was the wrong adverb to use

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Tuesday, 30 June 2009 16:11 (fourteen years ago) link

heh. yeah. undeniably owned.

FUCKIN 'TALLICA BRO (cankles), Tuesday, 30 June 2009 16:17 (fourteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

hey guys, i'm trying to find an essay written by a woman who taught a class on david foster wallace after he died. i think she's a professor at the same college he taught at and the article talked about the temptation of reading too much of his life in the work. does anyone have the link? i'm not having any luck here.

Ømår Littel (Jordan), Wednesday, 22 July 2009 21:06 (fourteen years ago) link

look at infinitesummer.org -- I think she did a blog post there about teaching the class

nabisco, Wednesday, 22 July 2009 21:08 (fourteen years ago) link

Kathleen Fitzpatrick, is that who you're looking for?
http://infinitesummer.org/archives/931

nabisco, Wednesday, 22 July 2009 21:09 (fourteen years ago) link

sure is, thanks!

Ømår Littel (Jordan), Wednesday, 22 July 2009 21:24 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

http://www.zdf.de/ZDFmediathek/content/823228?inPopup=true

^^this interview is so great

johnny crunch, Friday, 28 August 2009 02:22 (fourteen years ago) link

wow. i'm only like ten minutes in, too.

Mr. Que, Friday, 28 August 2009 02:35 (fourteen years ago) link

some great mp3s here incl. old DFW interviews and a long interview with his sister with some funny anecdotes.

Ømår Littel (Jordan), Thursday, 3 September 2009 18:09 (fourteen years ago) link

where

just sayin, Thursday, 3 September 2009 18:21 (fourteen years ago) link

oh ha

http://www.wpr.org/book/090823a.cfm

Ømår Littel (Jordan), Thursday, 3 September 2009 18:29 (fourteen years ago) link

cheers, look awes

just sayin, Thursday, 3 September 2009 18:35 (fourteen years ago) link

this is so great.

strongohulkingtonsghost, Thursday, 3 September 2009 19:11 (fourteen years ago) link

day before yesterday was driving across central Illinois listening to that WPR show.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 3 September 2009 21:32 (fourteen years ago) link

It sound so good I'm actually considering taking a break to locate/purchase a USB connection so I can put it on my mp3 player for the walk home.

nabisco, Thursday, 3 September 2009 21:49 (fourteen years ago) link

It's good, wouldn't say magnificent. It really brings home -- or maybe this is done with editing -- how the problem DFW writes about in "E Unibus Pluram" is central to him for twenty-five years afterwards, and in some sense he makes no progress on it.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 3 September 2009 21:51 (fourteen years ago) link

features two different law and order spinoff alums!

fleetwood (max), Friday, 4 September 2009 01:58 (fourteen years ago) link

oh man that looks like shit.

i'm beasting off the riesling (M@tt He1ges0n), Saturday, 5 September 2009 00:03 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah seriously bummed about this probable garbage.

strongohulkingtonsghost, Saturday, 5 September 2009 00:21 (fourteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

May be of interest only to DFW fans who are also serious tennis fans: tennis journalist/blogger Steve Tignor has been writing a great series of articles about DFW's tennis essays on his blog Concrete Elbow.

Roz, Thursday, 1 October 2009 06:55 (fourteen years ago) link

This explains much.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 3 October 2009 13:33 (fourteen years ago) link

Re Alan Lelchuk, quoted in Ned's link: I liked his novel _American Mischief_, which I think has been completely forgotten.

http://uwpress.wisc.edu/books/2665.htm

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 3 October 2009 23:16 (fourteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_sQrxAorDo

just sayin, Thursday, 22 October 2009 15:08 (fourteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

:(

just sayin, Wednesday, 11 November 2009 09:32 (fourteen years ago) link

jeez :/

thomp, Wednesday, 11 November 2009 11:04 (fourteen years ago) link

has this been posted before?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwS5pEfcQNk

hardened my resolve 2 retackle infinite jest

plaxico (I know, right?), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 11:45 (fourteen years ago) link

Intense essay. Anyone else puzzled by the ending?

calstars, Wednesday, 11 November 2009 15:52 (fourteen years ago) link

this thing?

http://quomodocumque.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/wallace-amherst_review-the_planet.pdf

it's a short story

jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 15:55 (fourteen years ago) link

yeh but it ends kinda

zappi, Wednesday, 11 November 2009 15:58 (fourteen years ago) link

it ends kinda weirdly midsentence, yeah, just like his first book, can't say i'm a fan of it

jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 15:59 (fourteen years ago) link

i like this ending much more than that ending! this one felt coherent and clear and characteristic.

poor dude :(

Gravel Puzzleworth, Wednesday, 11 November 2009 16:43 (fourteen years ago) link

god, he was 21 when he wrote that

sexual alien v. sexual predator (m bison), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 16:44 (fourteen years ago) link

poor dude :(

yeah

jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 16:45 (fourteen years ago) link

Did Brief Interviews with Hideous Men ever get released to theaters?

Nuyorican oatmeal (jaymc), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 16:47 (fourteen years ago) link

i think it was released in limited places? This is kind of interesting

There’s a bit of an announcement we’re hoping you can make about Brief Interviews with Hideous Men. Can you tell us about that?
John Krasinski: Hulu’s premiering the movie first on the Internet (after it finishes its run in theaters), so we’re a part of that, and that’s fantastic.

jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 16:49 (fourteen years ago) link

Huh, I guess it's played in NYC, L.A., and Boston, and is scheduled for Philadelphia and Austin this weekend. Weird that it never made it to Chicago. But I'd just as soon watch it on Hulu, anyway.

Nuyorican oatmeal (jaymc), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 16:53 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah it's weird it hasn't made it to DC either, but then again it's only 80 minutes

jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 16:55 (fourteen years ago) link

i think the ending trailing off is referring to his fear that the Bad Thing is really... "you"

as in:
Being far away sort of helps with respect to the Bad Thing. Except that is just highly silly when you consider what I said before concerning the fact that the Bad Thing is really [you.]

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Wednesday, 11 November 2009 18:58 (fourteen years ago) link


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