US Politics: July 2020 - "Denigrating this Luxury Avenue"

I’m really sad and angry that John Lewis is dead

Why else would he cite it?

And yes, also sad about Mr. Lewis passing. Pancreatic cancer is awful, just awful.

Breaking: ACLU files lawsuit against Department of Homeland Security agents and US Marshals deployed in Portland, seeking a temporary restraining order to block them from assaulting press and legal observers. ACLU says it's the first of many suits https://t.co/idUUY9ouYf pic.twitter.com/rrBDMSkMAP

— CJ Ciaramella (@cjciaramella) July 17, 2020

Mask Up!

https://theintercept.com/2020/07/16/face-masks-facial-recognition-dhs-blueleaks/

The David Shor interview is way more interesting than the fact that he was fired.

I thought that interview was really interesting. His pessimism about Dems' chances in future elections seems well-grounded, even if they manage to snag this one. As ever, the root is racism.

It's a good interview, don't get the complaint it doesn't touch on foreign pol. Shor wasn't asked about it, and I am sure he'd pull a reading off 2-5 studies on it if he was.

Why else would he cite it?

Because he seems like a guy whose absolutely dominant, overwhelming interest is elections and who wins them and basically everything that crosses his path he is going to look at through the lens of "how does this interact with the thing I know about, elections?"

I mean I get the criticism that if the same guy were a painting nerd there would be something off-putting about him posting pictures of police beating protestors and saying "it reminds one of Goya"

It's just really off-putting to me. Anyone who saw what was happening in the week or two following George Floyd's murder and then was like "bUt rIoTS w0n'T WiN tHe sUburbs" may have been right, but they also need to shut the fuck up, because their statement discounts not only valid rage but also makes the rather shaky assumption that national elections will change much for many of the working poor, most of whom are Black (per capita) in the US. It puts the onus on those who've been disenfranchised rather than on those who have the power to help the disenfranchised but won't.

OTM

This is a photo of Elijah Cummings, not John Lewis. pic.twitter.com/uumfIb7yW5

— Matt Viser (@mviser) July 18, 2020

jfc

I don’t know if he regrets tweeting it but he was fired and he makes no attempt to defend it in the interview fwiw.

it is STILL his profile pic

oh marcopaws

nvm, looks like he finally switched it

cool saturday tweet

there's one obvious defense Marco can't use, and how much you want to bet he does

The Washington Post reports:

The Trump administration is trying to block billions of dollars for states to conduct testing and contact tracing in the upcoming coronavirus relief bill, people involved in the talks said Saturday.

The administration is also trying to block billions of dollars that GOP senators want to allocate for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and billions more for the Pentagon and State Department to address the pandemic at home and abroad, the people said.

The administration’s posture has angered some GOP senators, the officials said, and some lawmakers are trying to push back and ensure that the money stays in the bill. The officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity to reveal confidential deliberations, cautioned that the talks were fluid and the numbers were in flux.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2020/07/18/white-house-testing-budget-cdc-coronavirus/

love to see GOP staffers putting stories out to make the president look bad

Is the white house trying to block funds for testing because they don't want to capture higher infection numbers?

And the CDC because Fauci won't lie correctly?

Fauci isn't part of the CDC

Christ that Shor interview bummed me out. Not so much because of any new content (except for that part about the implications of Texas going blue.) Mostly just seeing it all laid out clearly.

Fauci isn't part of the CDC

Not sure this matters for my question, but I'll rephrase anyway.

Are they trying to deny funds to the CDC because they refuse to lie correctly?

they don't want to capture higher infection numbers, yes

and if the cdc gets neither money nor statistics from hospitals, it won't be able to tell the truth even if it wants to

it's pretty amazing, really

Genius plan, no way that won't blow up in their faces and piss off even more people

sorry i'm not totally caught up on this thread but has anyone noted yet that lyrics that start "one thing i don't know it doesn't even matter how hard you try" are weird ones for a campaign video

i don't know why*

I don’t know if he regrets tweeting it but he was fired and he makes no attempt to defend it in the interview fwiw.

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, July 18, 2020 3:17 PM (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

He should not apologize for it. Why the fuck would he?

>blue light or electric light (the table is the table) at 12:40 18 Jul 20

It's just really off-putting to me. Anyone who saw what was happening in the week or two following George Floyd's murder and then was like "bUt rIoTS w0n'T WiN tHe sUburbs" may have been right, but they also need to shut the fuck up, because their statement discounts not only valid rage but also makes the rather shaky assumption that national elections will change much for many of the working poor, most of whom are Black (per capita) in the US. It puts the onus on those who've been disenfranchised rather than on those who have the power to help the disenfranchised but won't.
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You're saying it doesn't matter to poor people who gets elected president. Seeing as the president can veto or sign any changes to say, the healthcare system, I'd disagree. And a democratic president could reinstate Obama era rules the payday lending industry rescinded by Trump. These are rules that specifically protect poor people.

Or hey, let's all be hip and cool and just say fuck it.

Never said anything like that, but I'm pretty sure I saw poor people struggling under Obama and Clinton. Are there palpable differences, especially with the advent of the ACA? Yes, absolutely.

The larger point is that a disenfranchised group is being cast as their own enemy when they take from their actual enemies. Its a method of social control.

The correct conclusion of such studies, IMHO, would be that the media and the government will do anything to preserve systems of racial and class hierarchy, even if that means gaslighting the hell out of the populace

want to understand but don't understand your post table

You're saying it doesn't matter to poor people who gets elected president.

Of course it does on some level, as you pointed out. But that doesn't mean that poor people not might feel like it doesn't matter and want to lash out. Someone posted an article about middle/upper middle class African Americans (granted, not poor people) in one neighborhood in suburban Detroit and it was eye-opening their level cynicism about presidential politics. They had seen it all and basically felt that Biden getting elected wouldn't change a thing.

enjoyed reading that article but it seemed like a microscopic view

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EdJSsyMUYAA5bZG.jpg

Anyone who saw what was happening in the week or two following George Floyd's murder and then was like "bUt rIoTS w0n'T WiN tHe sUburbs" may have been right, but they also need to shut the fuck up, because their statement discounts not only valid rage but also makes the rather shaky assumption that national elections will change much for many of the working poor, most of whom are Black (per capita) in the US.

I get where you're coming from, but as eephus pointed out, Shor was sharing a relevant study in his capacity as a political data analyst. Not that he did so from a point of pure neutrality (after all, he's interested in helping Democrats win), but he also wasn't making a moral statement or analyzing the efficacy of the movement on its own terms. It was a data point that he found worth considering for those involved in progressive electoral politics during this cycle. The problem is that he posted it on Twitter, which flattened the context.

I mean I can see where people are coming from with finding it crass or ill-timed or reductive or whatver, but I was surprised that a DNC-friendly moderate thinktank fired him for it, and the fact that he's under an NDA makes me think the tweet is not the whole story.

everyone who tweets should be fired imo

otm

the fact that he's under an NDA makes me think the tweet is not the whole story.

I think you are probably right about this.

Officers appeared near the federal courthouse around 10:40 p.m. and deployed tear gas. It was unclear whether they were federal officers or Portland police.

Soon after, officers retreated into the courthouse building and protestors began barricading the doors of the building again. Some began flooding the courthouse steps, banging on the doors as they barricaded them.

A reporter from The Portland Tribune posted a social media video of federal officers striking a protester repeatedly with a baton and spraying pepper spray in his face. The protester did not seem to engage with the officers in any way and stood still as he was hit.

Close to midnight, some protesters began throwing firecrackers at the courthouse. They continued to barricade the doors of the federal courthouse.

By 12:30 a.m., demonstrators had largely abandoned the federal courthouse, instead holding a rally in the intersection of Southwest Third Avenue and Main Street, where people were giving speeches from the bed of a truck.

https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2020/07/saturday-evening-protests-planned-at-holladay-and-peninsula-parks.html

If only!

WASHINGTON — During a campaign-style speech this week in the White House Rose Garden, President Donald Trump lamented that his efforts to turn Joe Biden’s son into a political vulnerability for the Democrat had flopped.

“But Hunter — where’s Hunter?” Trump said, referencing the younger Biden’s lucrative position on the board of a Ukrainian gas company while his father was vice president. “And you all know about Burisma, but nothing happens. Nobody cares.”

It’s one of many punches by Trump that have failed to land on his Democratic rival. He has called him “sleepy Joe” and derided him as too tired and unfit to do the job. He has mocked him for a steady stream of verbal stumbles. He has painted him as a tool of China. He has linked him to a “defund the police” movement that Biden has rejected. None of it is sticking.

As a result, the president and his allies have settled on a different strategy: Paint Biden as an empty vessel for socialist radicals to exploit. Trump’s new campaign manager Bill Stepien said Tuesday, “We will expose Joe Biden as a hapless tool of the extreme left.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/unable-land-hits-biden-trump-paints-him-socialist-trojan-horse-n1234241

Can I vote for him?

As always, “You all know about xxxx, but nothing happens, nobody cares” - the continuing sad truth of the Trump experiment - is the thing they try to weaponize against their opponent.

“An empty vessel to exploit.”

Apparently he spent a significant portion of today's Fox News Sunday interview (fuck you, I ain't watching that shit) talking about how difficult the cognitive test he took was, as though it's the fucking SAT and not a test to see whether or not you have brain damage.

This is a back and forth that actually happened. pic.twitter.com/irfUpHJjzb

— Zeke Miller (@ZekeJMiller) July 19, 2020

Race relations comes in third (10%)... Crime? Well crime is at just 1%... Also of note, more voters said Trump say Trump isn't mentally sound enough to serve as prez effectively (51%) than say the same for Biden (39%). 2/3

— (((Harry Enten))) (@ForecasterEnten) July 19, 2020

We’re 30 years out from the Reagan crime peak, where do they think they’re gonna find voters for whom “crime” is a presidential campaign issue

Probably get more votes for Crime and the City Solution.

I'm glad that it's only polling at 1% because if you survey only nextdoor respondents, every street is on fire and homes are being pillaged left and right, and you're likely to be shot to death in a robbery the minute you leave your house.