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'78 Metheny Group

listening now and damn. also my friends would murder me if I played this for them.

lukas, Friday, 17 July 2020 21:09 (three years ago) link

is this the "Phase Dance" one? It was really famous, but I've never been able to really get into this one.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 17 July 2020 22:49 (three years ago) link

That's the one. Seemed really appealing on a first playthrough.

lukas, Friday, 17 July 2020 23:00 (three years ago) link

Listening to Batik again and DeJohnette's solo on the title track is pure *chef's kiss*.

pomenitul, Friday, 17 July 2020 23:23 (three years ago) link

As is Eddie Gómez's bowed double bass playing.

pomenitul, Friday, 17 July 2020 23:24 (three years ago) link

xp It is the Phase Dance one! The whole album is gorgeous.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Saturday, 18 July 2020 13:16 (three years ago) link

This is specific and probably obsessive, but ever since the quarantining started, the first album I listen to every day has been Tibbetts' <i>Northern Songs</i> - sometimes just side two, sometimes the whole thing. I found this interview about the making of the album, where Tibbetts talks about having other loops and sounds that he wanted to add to the album and I'm personally glad it didn't work out for them:

<a href="https://www.allaboutjazz.com/steve-tibbetts-northern-song-and-the-sounds-of-silence-steve-tibbetts-by-rob-caldwell.php";>https://www.allaboutjazz.com/steve-tibbetts-northern-song-and-the-sounds-of-silence-steve-tibbetts-by-rob-caldwell.php<;/a>

I've been making a lot of other ECM discoveries but one thing that strikes me is how tight the albums from 60-69 are - I had heard about the legendary first 30 ECM albums or the first 50, but that run from <i>Solstice</i> to <i>Gnu High</i> is almost desert island stuff for me, I've always loved <i>Yellow Fields</i>, I had never even heard <i>Odyssey</i> - if anyone ever asked me where to start with ECM (a question that never comes up), that's where I'd point them.

savetherobot, Saturday, 18 July 2020 14:31 (three years ago) link

(Sorry about the formatting fail, I'm rusty)

savetherobot, Saturday, 18 July 2020 14:32 (three years ago) link

Odyssey is incredible

Brad C., Saturday, 18 July 2020 14:44 (three years ago) link

i've just put Northern Songs on and my cat has gone full force 100% CHILLED OUT TO THE MAX next to the stereo. magic calming tendencies pumping out of this lp.

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Saturday, 18 July 2020 15:11 (three years ago) link

i think, when it comes down to it, northern song is probably my favorite tibbetts. but screw picking just one.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Sunday, 19 July 2020 04:28 (three years ago) link

I love that Tibbetts record so much. I'm going to need a second lockdown to crawl through the ECM catalogue! Everyone's guidance and remarks here are really helpful. This will be a special listening projects the coming months.

Scampidocio (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 19 July 2020 10:43 (three years ago) link

so, back to ralph towner for a sec—

i just checked out his joint venture with gary burton (matchbook) for the first time on the old internet jukebox today and realized i'm an idiot. i could've bought that record for a dollar probably a hundred times when i lived in reno. but oh well, if i had done that i would have spent a hundred dollars and inexplicably have a hundred copies of the album. i mean, it's a great record, but. . .

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Monday, 20 July 2020 03:29 (three years ago) link

ECMs I've never heard that I've played in the last couple of days:
Pat Metheny, New Chautauqua & Bright Size Life - liked the really low key stuff the best, otherwise kind of reminded me of the guitar equivalent of a solo Jarrett record. I had heard Bright Size in passing a while ago and thought it was pretty nice sounding. After having gone deep on Pat recently, I wasn't as moved by it as I had expected to be, but it had some uncharacteristic, understated playing by Jaco which I got into.
Rypdal/Vitous/DeJohnette - loved this one
Dave Liebman, Lookout Farm & Drum Ode - I liked about half of each of these. Vocals undid Drum Ode, got a little lost on Lookout Farm, but will revisit both.
Julian Priester, Polarization - I know and adore Love, Love, but had never heard of this one at all. Some funk, some stately tone pieces. Pretty cool as well.
Oregon, Crossing & Ecotopia - the synths on Ecotopia were mentioned as a hazard upthread, but I was ready for them and got into this one. Crossing was better though. I think I need to get into more Oregon.

justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 23 July 2020 05:54 (three years ago) link

i tried to get into oregon last year. picked up their first two albums (from the vanguard years, so very early 1970s) and just didn't really dig what i heard. wasn't put off by it, just didn't really stick out much.

i used to be one of those metheny haters, but i've since eased off on that after hearing some of his early work as a sideman. need to check out one of his proper albums.

also, after seeing it on the non-meme ecm instagram (linked earlier upthread), i checked out this bill connors album and whoa! it's really interesting and not very ecm-esque (not in the 'classic' sense anyway). almost seems like it would not be too out of place in the post-fahey thread. really searching, undefined music. p rad.

what i've heard of rypdal has been great. he does get a little riffy and showy in his playing sometimes, but it doesn't really feel out of place. side b of his descendre album is probably among the prettiest music that ecm ever did. definitely one for the "in a similarly silent way" crowd.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Thursday, 30 July 2020 23:15 (three years ago) link

Apple music has ECM's entire streaming output organized by decade, which is cool for deciding whether I want to check out some early classics I haven't had a chance to explore yet or go for the digital synth era. I've yet to make it past 1989 with any ECM release, save for listening to more recent Eberhard Weber over the last couple of days. I didn't realize his output dropped off because he'd had a stroke over a decade ago. Biographically, I know quite little about the ECM coterie. Would be a great topic for a documentary.

That Connors is on my list to check out for sure.

justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 31 July 2020 03:25 (three years ago) link

Swimming with a Hole in My Body (such an oddly mysterious title) is my fave Connors release for ECM.

pomenitul, Friday, 31 July 2020 16:05 (three years ago) link

Just picked up a lovely pristine copy of Scales by the Manfred Schoof Quintet (on Japo). I already had and appreciated the ECM 2CD collecting most of their material for the label but listening to it with the original sequencing is a much better experience. Some wonderful delicate keyboard work from Jasper Van’T Hof. I’m not aware of these records being much talked about - possibly because Schoof moved away from jazz? But really strong work IMO.

umsworth (emsworth), Saturday, 8 August 2020 22:53 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

https://shop.new-art.nl/assets/image.php?width=800&image=/content/img/new_products_queue/1443426047.jpg

I simply cannot articulate what a stunning piece of music this is.

calzino, Wednesday, 23 September 2020 19:52 (three years ago) link

A perfect disc, yes, and I'm not even that big a Satie/Cage/Feldman stan.

sock solipsist (pomenitul), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 19:54 (three years ago) link

It is perfect, such a beautiful compilation. There's about a hundred years between Satie and Cage's 'Four', but they sit together like they're meant to.

Monte Scampino (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 24 September 2020 08:56 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

In the past I've found some of the material François Couturier released under his own name to be a little light on content, but his second album with Anja Lechner, featuring mostly original compositions this time, is really hitting the autumnal spot right now. These two have more chemistry as a duo than as half of a quartet.

pomenitul, Monday, 19 October 2020 14:35 (three years ago) link

jean-louis matinier & kevin seddiki - rivages

^^^
this is another quite beautiful and captivating duo album imo

not sure if Terje Rypdal hits that autumnal spot for everybody but he released his first new album for years last month, sounded p good on my first listen

calzino, Monday, 19 October 2020 16:35 (three years ago) link

Yeah, the Rypdal album is fantastic. Reviewed it for The Wire.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 19 October 2020 17:23 (three years ago) link

Thought this was a cool little piece - Manfred Eicher picks five favourite Blue Note albs:

https://www.wbgo.org/post/field-studies-manfred-eicher-founder-ecm-records-picks-his-top-five-blue-note-albums#stream/0

Ward Fowler, Monday, 19 October 2020 17:35 (three years ago) link

That's really cool. Thanks for the heads up.

pomenitul, Monday, 19 October 2020 18:01 (three years ago) link

That's a great looking list. The Pete La Roca album is fantastic.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Monday, 19 October 2020 18:17 (three years ago) link

I'm sure I read about it here but can find no mention on the thread. Either way, the live Ghazal album, The Rain makes my hair stand on end.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/22/The_Rain_%28Ghazal_album%29.jpg

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 17:36 (three years ago) link

Fantastic cover- I'll look this up.

My two most recent discoveries from the 80s back catalogue are Paul Motian's 'It Should've Happened A Long Time Ago' & Marc Johnson's 'Bass Desires', both from 86-87, both featuring Bill Frisell doing a ton of guitar synth stuff, which I can't get enough of these days.

justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 22:30 (three years ago) link

Ooh, gotta check that out

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 23:19 (three years ago) link

three months pass...

the live Ghazal album, The Rain makes my hair stand on end

Just listened, fucking awesome, thanks. Have you ever heard Ravi Shankar's live thing from the Concert for Bangladesh? Similar vibe to Eternity.

lukas, Sunday, 14 February 2021 01:09 (three years ago) link

so the Ezra Feinberg album Recumbent Speech from last year is hitting a lot of ECM notes for me. ECM and tubular bells and tortoise and jim o'rourke. All that good stuff.

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Monday, 22 February 2021 17:45 (three years ago) link

That Ezra Feinberg album is great.

Just listened, fucking awesome, thanks. Have you ever heard Ravi Shankar's live thing from the Concert for Bangladesh? Similar vibe to Eternity.

God, this album is so good. Not heard that particular Shankar - will check it out for sure.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 09:52 (three years ago) link

Wow, thanks for that Jamie (and Chinaski), the Feinberg album really is great!

A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 09:59 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

Tibbetts' Northern Song keeps getting played at our residence, please advise as to how I can keep these low-key heady vibes going please, in the ECm vein...

it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Monday, 29 March 2021 15:57 (three years ago) link

more tibbetts.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Monday, 29 March 2021 16:46 (three years ago) link

Big Map Ideas is one i really like from him

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Monday, 29 March 2021 16:54 (three years ago) link

yes, also very mellow in the vein of northern song. his two more recent ones (natural causes and life of) are probably the most aurally similar to northern song.

but nothing tops northern song.

for similarly sparse ecm / windham hill vibes, i like—

michael hedges — breakfast in the field
william ackerman — it takes a year

i also think one could put together a playlist of 70s leo kottke deep cuts that may be relevant. i might do that later, actually.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Monday, 29 March 2021 17:05 (three years ago) link

Excited for the forthcoming Vijay Iyer with Linda May Hahn Oh and Tyshawn Sorey. Iyer's last ECM was very good indeed.

Poor.Old.Tired.Horse. (Stew), Monday, 29 March 2021 18:53 (three years ago) link

Swimming with a Hole in My Body (such an oddly mysterious title) is my fave Connors release for ECM.

― pomenitul, Friday, July 31, 2020 9:05 AM (seven months ago) bookmarkflaglink

this is great and fits table's criteria

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 29 March 2021 19:17 (three years ago) link

xp

quite the trio is that, almost guaranteed to be a+. Hafez Modirzadeh's Facets is probably my fave album of the year so far but still it will be nice to hear Sorey back behind a drum kit again.

calzino, Monday, 29 March 2021 19:25 (three years ago) link

love Facets, too. Thanks all.

it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Monday, 29 March 2021 19:31 (three years ago) link

I got to see the Iyer/Oh/Sorey trio at the Jazz Standard about a month before lockdown, playing music from this upcoming album. Based on that and the tracks I've already heard, it's gonna be a pretty forceful album. Looking forward to it.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 29 March 2021 22:07 (three years ago) link

Facets is stunning - love Modirzadeh's sound world.

Poor.Old.Tired.Horse. (Stew), Tuesday, 30 March 2021 11:01 (three years ago) link

Thanks for the recs yesterday, though as much as I love the Connors and Hedges, it's the full instrumental treatment of Northern Song that appeals most to me—

it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Tuesday, 30 March 2021 15:32 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

some purist was probably quite ruffled at the time, but this is hittin like holy shit this morning:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmRm8UYTeNw

(gary burton — "las vegas tango")

also, ya i know this isn't on ecm, but either i'm bad at the search function or there isn't a currently existing gary burton topic (!!??!?!).

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Thursday, 15 April 2021 15:52 (three years ago) link

There was a post two days ago on the thread entitled "jazz" about Gary Burton reissues.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 15 April 2021 16:14 (three years ago) link

yeah, i saw that. it's what prompted my recent dive back into his catalogue.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Thursday, 15 April 2021 16:17 (three years ago) link

Vijay Iyer's tenure as Pitchfork's favorite jazz artist continues. Long may he reign.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 15 April 2021 17:16 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

This record is really lovely, has heavy ECM vibes on it
https://schlarb.bandcamp.com/album/time-no-changes

heyy nineteen, that's john belushi (the table is the table), Thursday, 10 June 2021 16:16 (two years ago) link


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