Words, usages, and phrases that annoy the shit out of you...

i'm pretty sure what sleeve means is that pelosi, in her capacity as (a) leader of the democratic party, had failed to take in to account the overwhelming sentiment that going after kavanaugh was the preferred move, that she was out of touch with the thinking of most democrats and was therefore failing to use her role as speaker to express this, hence a failure to read the room, which to me sounds like a perfectly okay use of the expression ?

iow, he thought Pelosi, by reading the room, would have concluded the room wanted something other than her considered conclusion about the best way to proceed. she was not out of touch with who her audience was, but out of touch with their desired response from her. sounds like what I said.

what you said is that her statement didn't specifically meet one individual's approval !

she was not out of touch with who her audience was, but out of touch with their desired response from her.

so she didn't fail to read the room, she actually read the room really well and then proceeded to say something that upset the majority of the people in the room ? what is the distinction you're trying to make ? how can you be in touch with your audience if you don't know what your audience wants from you ?

Be Morton Downey Jr?

how can you be in touch with your audience if you don't know what your audience wants from you ?

if you read carefully, I did not say she did not know what her audience wanted from her. I'm pretty sure she knew what would have pleased a fair number of them (viz. all those who thought as sleeve did), but she was not willing to give it to them.

This is a good ILX argument.

But a weird thread for it to be in

Yeah, like, read the room guys

it will be cool to go through these threads after quarantine has made everyone finally, fully insane and be able to trace its progress

“during this time”

overuse of referring to people as 'individuals'

dividuals

Makes me think of awkward police officers making stilted appeals for information.

"individual" sounds like police speak to me too

"the wife" -- i know a couple of good people that use this, but i hate it!

better half

ball and chain

trouble and strife

the missus

ugh

All awful. Likewise 'hubby'.

“The wife” is “the worst”

Use her name or leave her out of it

I choose to believe it's shorthand for 'The Wife of Bath'.

"ugh" is just plain rude

‘er indoors

... I was literally just going to post that.

The Duchess of Fife

waifu

i would rather be called waifu than any of the above

I'd rather be a husbando than a hubby, so I see where you're coming from.

'Consort' is underrated.

In Scotland, you hear 'man' used for husband, simple but effective.

Is "a wife" better than "the wife"?

I'm guessing "the little woman" won't meet with much approval here.

In Scotland, you hear 'man' used for husband, simple but effective.

Same in Romanian (we also have a dish that's quite similar to haggis called 'drob').

"our lass" won't get any shrift either!

That's me cancelled

tbf saying "the wife" is helpful for those old rich SOBs who have trouble remembering their current wife's name

Also useful when you exclusively conceive of relationships in terms of Platonic Ideals: 'the wife', 'the friend', 'the rival', etc.

"the wife, the friend, the rival" by My Dying Bride

'…and her lover'

I use "my wife" on ILX because I don't use my government name on ILX and I'm not going to drop hers here either. I could call her Mrs. Aimless, but that doesn't seem like an improvement, because she kept her own name when we got married and she isn't "Mrs. Aimless".

Endless Nameless Aimless

I can't really see what do wrong with my wife/husband/girlfriend/boyfriend. I mean, not all in one go, perhaps.

there's a world of difference btw "my wife" and "the wife"

I call my partner "my Zamboni machine"

I am single.

i thought your partner posted here tbh but then i realized it was just a sock

The sock.

the worst version of the not-present wife I've heard is an acquaintance who simply says "her" and "she" - no name, not "my wife" or "the wife"

like "yes I fancy a pint but I'll need to talk to her first"

horrible

My personal least favorite is when my dad refers to my mom (when talking w me) as “your mother”
They’re still married!

that reads as absolutely normal parentspeak to me

Yeah, huh?

When I am talking to my children I wouldn't refer to my wife as "Mother" or "Mom," because she's not my mother. I wouldn't refer to her as "Elisabeth." To me it would be weird to say "son, Elisabeth says you still need to brush your teeth."

"Your mother is coming home soon." "Your mom is at the store."

I don't get what I'm supposed to say instead.

"Hey children, what do you think my wife wants for her birthday?"