At 10:35 on an early summer's morning, John Lanchester sat down at his study desk, switched on his new Dell computer, opened up the word processing programme that the computer had come with and began

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it heartens me that we're all routinely reading this entire thread

mark s, Thursday, 16 July 2020 17:21 (three years ago) link

it's Lanchester's most important contribution to literature tbf

À la recherche du scamps perdu (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 16 July 2020 17:26 (three years ago) link

I would like to state that I meant no harm to Beckett in that comparison! It was more looking for a lineage - something that Lanchester might have read and seized on as a 'style'. A style that he eviscerated, left dead for years and then bunged in the microwave when the time came. We are left to marvel at his excreta; indeed we are his avid, attentive grooms of the stool.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Thursday, 16 July 2020 19:58 (three years ago) link

Without rereading his long-ago first novel, The Debt to Pleasure (which I remember really liking!), memory tells me it was deeply in debt to Nabokov, especially his erudite psychopath narrators like Humbert Humbert.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Friday, 17 July 2020 04:00 (three years ago) link

Yes, likewise read and enjoyed it years ago, and Nabokov was the obvious model.

Fizzles, Friday, 17 July 2020 06:01 (three years ago) link

tho as you say, Nabokov as mendacious, self-obsessed narrator rather than, say, his aesthetic games or specific approaches to language.

Fizzles, Friday, 17 July 2020 06:02 (three years ago) link

I also enjoyed The Debt To Pleasure (the recipes are good too), but as Nabokov pastiches go, Updike's A Month of Sundays is better and was done 25 years earlier.

fetter, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 14:59 (three years ago) link

I am now reading Lanchester on Maigret. It's not devoid of any insight or knowledge, but it comes out with the daft things quoted upthread, and it's blokeish tone is quite obnoxious.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 18:01 (three years ago) link

it's quite a lot better than his christie piece and is also not consistent with it in terms of stated assumptions

mark s, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 18:05 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

So this guerilla advert for Lanchester's new novel is making the rounds...

omg they are gagging for us to return back to the office. “second family”? pic.twitter.com/udntfSVXSh

— mi🌿 (@helloalegria) September 2, 2020

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Thursday, 3 September 2020 10:42 (three years ago) link

fvck, this has reminded me of his forthcmoing "horror" collection -- is it out yet?

'Rău!' she said, shouting, pointing at my phone and then at the grave. 'Rău, rău, rău!'

mark s, Thursday, 3 September 2020 11:25 (three years ago) link

That never fails to crack me up. Should be serified by the beeb just for that scene.

Monte Scampino (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 3 September 2020 11:41 (three years ago) link

I'm halfway through Lanchester on ESPORTS.

https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v42/n16/john-lanchester/diary

the pinefox, Sunday, 6 September 2020 13:13 (three years ago) link

well that's just averagely banal. no choice lanchester in there at all.

the ghost of tom, choad (thomp), Sunday, 6 September 2020 13:50 (three years ago) link

oh gosh i hadn't been keeping up on this thread and the cover for his ghost story collection is just too good

the ghost of tom, choad (thomp), Sunday, 6 September 2020 13:57 (three years ago) link

The thing I didn't understand about ESPORTS was that the 'esports' seemed to be games, not sports.

I thought an esport would be more like when you swing a tennis racket and something happens to the tennis ball on screen, so you get fitter.

But it seems to be more like WARHAMMER ONLINE or something. Which might be fun but is definitely not sport. Unless all those afternoons playing JUDGE DREDD: THE ROLE PLAYING GAME and eating Monster Munch were sport for me.

Yet Lanchester keeps comparing esports to sports - his whole framing is about cricket and so on - so he does seem to think of them that way.

the pinefox, Monday, 7 September 2020 09:37 (three years ago) link

Well he's writing as a spectator not a competitor, it seems a legitimate comparison. Snooker and darts are infamously less physically demanding than outdoor sports, how do you categorise them?

neith moon (ledge), Monday, 7 September 2020 09:51 (three years ago) link

The difference between esports and yer Judge Dread sessions is there's ppl making quite a lot of money from playing these games within a competitive setting and huge audiences following their moves. Including, like, ppl booking seats at arenas to watch (not so much right now ofc). So I think the analogy is fine.

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 7 September 2020 10:05 (three years ago) link

yes ESPORTS is the commercial name --

hazel one of this parish (she says just a single post lol) just became editor of an esports magazine -- which is admittedly confusing bcz her main recent stream of income has been writing abt formula e, which is a e-based sport that isn't an esport (you met her at the royal oak pinefox)

mark s, Monday, 7 September 2020 10:21 (three years ago) link

one = once

mark s, Monday, 7 September 2020 10:26 (three years ago) link

Mark, yes, I believe that she has told me about her racing car activities.

My confusion re 'esports' was purely re the presence of the word 'sports' in the name, if they mostly don't resemble sports.

It did not otherwise indicate any scepticism about the quality, profitability, importance, interest, etc, of esports.

Chess would be another point of comparison. Chess has audiences (eg online), competition, etc, but we don't call it a sport.

Lanchester turned out not to like esports anyway.

the pinefox, Monday, 7 September 2020 16:28 (three years ago) link

I was thinking I had heard John lanchester's name before theis weekend.
He did a First Thoughts talk with Fintan O'Toole in teh Arts Festival here on Saturday.

Stevolende, Monday, 7 September 2020 18:08 (three years ago) link

lanchester ghost stories not due out till oct 1 -- where shd i pitch my review at, thread-readers? where will a takedown sit well?

(i mean lol the lrb obv but that's not going to happen and anyway i have them under seige for less entirely fvck-you stuff currently)

mark s, Monday, 14 September 2020 10:48 (three years ago) link

lol the Graun
lol Fortean Times

how do i shot moon? (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 September 2020 10:50 (three years ago) link

LITERARY REVIEW but they'll already have it lined up. I find that these things need to be done well in advance (ie: I have always failed).

the pinefox, Monday, 14 September 2020 11:08 (three years ago) link

true yes -- and i had the notion an age ago but was just too super-busy and otherwise under heavy manners to follow it up till this recent thread revive >:(

maybe i shd return to my other current project: "forty years of being terrible at freelancing: musings and persiflage"

mark s, Monday, 14 September 2020 11:19 (three years ago) link

haha do ppl still say "under heavy manners", feels like that might date me

mark s, Monday, 14 September 2020 11:26 (three years ago) link

Lol I still say that even knowingly incomprehensibly

how do i shot moon? (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 September 2020 14:40 (three years ago) link

It's such a great phrase. Too good to die.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Monday, 14 September 2020 15:33 (three years ago) link

And I think go high, aim for the heart of the republic and pitch to the FT.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Monday, 14 September 2020 15:35 (three years ago) link

Or The Spectator!

Ward Fowler, Monday, 14 September 2020 15:51 (three years ago) link

ts: publishing an amusing demolition of the very liberal JL in fash weekly vs losing the respect of my friends on ilx :D

mark s, Monday, 14 September 2020 16:52 (three years ago) link

prepping for the sooncome release of the ghost collection by rereading coffin liquor and then the one that ran to (says here) "great acclaim" in the new yorker

mark s, Thursday, 24 September 2020 13:03 (three years ago) link

started out with yellow highlighter for "things to pay attention to" and pink highlighter for "lol very extremely egregious lanch klaxon" -- and by page 9 of 11 it is just a blazing wall of pink

(nothing we failed to spot before -- if anything i'm reading a lot less closely than fizzles does)

mark s, Thursday, 24 September 2020 13:35 (three years ago) link

i'm on page 4 (my print-out) of the new yorker piece, signal: "there was next to no 3G or mobile data"

\o/

mark s, Thursday, 24 September 2020 14:58 (three years ago) link

there's a kind of joy in reading this three-year old story for the first time and hitting all the familiar marks lol

mark s, Thursday, 24 September 2020 15:10 (three years ago) link

i've also now started rereading Whoops! -- will report back when i get a bit further in

(i'm still in his throat-clearing phase first chapter, which i think is pretty bad -- he's attempting a lightning sketch of the entire geopolitical context for the 2008 market collapse -- but maybe it gets better as he gets onto his main topic, the collapse itself, and how high finance works and doesn't work)

mark s, Thursday, 24 September 2020 19:30 (three years ago) link

i hadn't read signal before; it doesn't seem as facepalmingly badly written as the lrb ones, i only spotted a few bad sentences/lanchisms but i'm sure a fizzles close reading would find many more. entirely pointless though, hard to know what effect he's aiming for since any plausible candidate (horror? atmosphere? moral instruction?) he misses by a mile.

neith moon (ledge), Thursday, 24 September 2020 19:37 (three years ago) link

i'm imagining all the legendary tiny new yorker mummies swarming over it nitpicking the worst sentences into slightly better shape

the section where the narrator gets into a fight with his host over the definition of the meaning of "tall" is honestly astonishing, as an attempted means to explain a misunderstanding

mark s, Thursday, 24 September 2020 19:50 (three years ago) link

Honestly I found Whoops a pretty good summation of the financial crisis for people who don't really understand the financial crisis but there comes a point when you realise that it's like having the international banking system explained to you by Douglas Adams.

Matt DC, Thursday, 24 September 2020 20:02 (three years ago) link

the section where the narrator gets into a fight with his host over the definition of the meaning of "tall" is honestly astonishing, as an attempted means to explain a misunderstanding

lol yes, i presumed it was an attempt at humour. i also raised an eyebrow at considering the serving of pheasant sandwiches to be somewhat macabre after you've spent hours actually shooting them.

neith moon (ledge), Thursday, 24 September 2020 20:09 (three years ago) link

https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v41/n14/john-lanchester/good-new-idea

Time to reread Lanchester on UBI as Lib Dems support the policy.

the pinefox, Saturday, 26 September 2020 12:57 (three years ago) link

https://amp-ft-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/amp.ft.com/content/c602f33b-cd44-49d8-9f86-274f3dcacfd4?

"In the incrementally horrifying “Charity”, a selfie stick of obscure origin, left at a charity shop by a widow clearing out her late husband’s collection of oddities, possesses obscene powers of revelation for whoever uses it.

The ensuing allegory is as much a comment on the whited sepulchre of colonialist atrocities and attendant lack of remorse, as it is on social media’s influence and fixation on the “perfect” self-image."

xyzzzz__, Monday, 28 September 2020 09:55 (three years ago) link

tbf the reviewer does say a couple of the stories don't work, but reviews of short story collections often take that shape.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 28 September 2020 09:56 (three years ago) link

publication is still very embargoed, i want to get hold of a copy of this collection NOW

maybe i shd tell the publicists i am planning to review it for the lanch-stan thread on ilx

(or as part of the MRJames series on freaky trigger)

mark s, Monday, 28 September 2020 10:15 (three years ago) link

I can’t remember much about whoops except a tediously whimsical chapter on balance sheets and a sense that it might have been better at 0.25 the length. It’s like one of those bbc4 documentaries that starts “I’m on a journey to find...”

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 28 September 2020 23:37 (three years ago) link

ebook of REALITY, AND OTHER STORIES downloading r/n, stoked for the hate

also still ploughing thru WHOOPS! (which i am very much not enjoying)

mark s, Thursday, 1 October 2020 10:22 (three years ago) link

Surely you mean you're downloading an electronic book document to your personal laptop computer?

1000 Scampo DJs (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 1 October 2020 10:24 (three years ago) link

rău! rău! rău!

mark s, Thursday, 1 October 2020 10:43 (three years ago) link


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