should "Lean On Me" replace "The Star-Spangled Banner" as the US national anthem?

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Acting like you aren't aware of the existence of

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkgkThdzX-8

Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 16:48 (three years ago) link

star-spangled banner isn't a banger or anything, but i appreciate the anachronisms, SAT words, bizarre syntax, and quaint contractions.

It's been pointed out that the normally sung lyrics are, grammatically, one really long question.

Blursday the Vagueteenth of Whenember (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 16:49 (three years ago) link

this writer truly does not understand what an anthem is

― imago, Wednesday, July 15, 2020 9:54 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

He's a guy who writes about music. You may have just seen him in your local bookshop/music paper/Private Eye.

jaymc, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 16:49 (three years ago) link

It's been pointed out that the normally sung lyrics are, grammatically, one really long question.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cE6Pg2q3lI

Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 16:50 (three years ago) link

in retrospect I should not have included an option that enables voters to make clear they hate america; stacks the deck

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 16:50 (three years ago) link

He's a guy who writes about music. You may have just seen him in your local bookshop/music paper/Private Eye.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 16:49 (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

i recanted that one p quickly, mea culpa

imago, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 16:51 (three years ago) link

It's been pointed out that the normally sung lyrics are, grammatically, one really long question.

I humbly submit "Is That All There Is?" for consideration. Trump loves it iirc so it might even get some backing

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 16:52 (three years ago) link

Ok but... "What Is Love?" is also a question

Blursday the Vagueteenth of Whenember (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 16:55 (three years ago) link

Hmm.... Deee-Lite or Haddaway? Or... MASHUP?????

shout-out to his family (DJP), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 17:02 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVgasCtUM4s

trapped out the barndo (crüt), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 17:07 (three years ago) link

DJP: mashup, no question

Blursday the Vagueteenth of Whenember (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 17:48 (three years ago) link

(never mind, it was Howard Jones fwiw)

Blursday the Vagueteenth of Whenember (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 17:52 (three years ago) link

"No One is to Blame" does kinda feel like this country's national anthem rn

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 17:53 (three years ago) link

coming from a country that doesn't really have a national anthem (Scotland) and living my life without having to ever hear an anthem regularly I really don't enjoy the mania for playing national anthems before sporting events in North America. although they're both fairly innocuous and middling as far as anthems go the one-two of o, Canada and the star spangled banner is quite loathsome.

Temporary Erogenous Zone (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 17:54 (three years ago) link

I only like it if I'm running late to a sporting event as it lets me get to my seat before kickoff

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 17:55 (three years ago) link

echo the Club Nouveau 'loved it and thought it was the original when I was a kid' sentiment up thread.

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 17:56 (three years ago) link

folks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIOJdMdS56k

Bougy! Bougie! Bougé! (Eliza D.), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 17:58 (three years ago) link

oooooh good one

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 18:06 (three years ago) link

kurt vonnegut once described the national anthem as "gibberish sprinkled with question marks"

budo jeru, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 18:32 (three years ago) link

"if america remade itself according to the principles of "lean on me," sure

star spangled banner sucks and we've earned it

― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson)"

agree, "lean on me" would be a great anthem for a country founded and governed humanely and on humane principles. america ain't that country, never has been, never will be.

"kurt vonnegut once described the national anthem as "gibberish sprinkled with question marks"

― budo jeru"

yeah but that motherfucker was notorious for hating punctuation

Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 18:40 (three years ago) link

Acting like you aren't aware of the existence of

― Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.)

i know it exists and it's lame

john lennon wrote and recorded an actual anthem and i endorse it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYKoi122dlg

Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 18:41 (three years ago) link

LAY DOWN THE LAW
SHOUT OUT FOR MORE
BREAKOUT AND SHOUT
DAY IN DAY OUT
BREAKOUT

― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, July 26, 2011

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 18:41 (three years ago) link

yeah but that motherfucker was notorious for hating punctuation

― Kate (rushomancy)

seriously calling a semicolon a "transvestite hermaphrodite" like that's some kinda fucking insult, go take a flying fuck at a rolling donut kurt

Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 18:42 (three years ago) link

I'm kind of surprised to learn that everyone likes "Lean on Me" this much, tbh.

Lily Dale, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 18:46 (three years ago) link

When I was a child I fell by happenstance into a family situation dominated by Unitarian Universalist thinking. There was a widespread joke that there was a UU hymn that went "the universe loves me, this I know, for my intellect tells me so."

I have often wanted, but never succeeded in finding or composing, an unapologetically secular and yet non-militaristic anthem. I would love it if someone could rescue the laudable sentiment from "America the Beautiful" (roughly, "we're not there yet but let's please at least try to get better").

Paul Simon's "American Tune" has some of the appropriate wistful resonance, but none of the aspiration; and in any case the tune is German (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O_Sacred_Head,_Now_Wounded).

the word "restaurateur" doesn't have an n in it (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 18:49 (three years ago) link

how do we feel about this take

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1QJoUxAKU8&t=1m06s

budo jeru, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 18:58 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1QJoUxAKU8&t=1m06s

budo jeru, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 18:58 (three years ago) link

ok sorry

budo jeru, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 18:59 (three years ago) link

hoping that was an acoustic cover of Love in an Elevator

the word "restaurateur" doesn't have an n in it (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 19:01 (three years ago) link

no just a guy playing acoustic guitar being crushed by an elevator

budo jeru, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 19:07 (three years ago) link

hawt

shout-out to his family (DJP), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 19:10 (three years ago) link

i was trying to link to the movie (?) version of this, but here is the quote:

In "Angels in America," Tony Kushner's Pulitzer Prize-winning play, an African-American character named Belize suggests that the difficulty was part of the composer's plan. "The white cracker who wrote the national anthem knew what he was doing," Belize insists. "He set the word 'free' to a note so high nobody can reach it."

budo jeru, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 19:13 (three years ago) link

It's a great line but also there are thousands if not millions of people who can actually hit that note as long as they start in the right key, so 🤷🏾‍♂️

shout-out to his family (DJP), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 19:18 (three years ago) link

i always love when a singer miscalculates their starting note on that song. creates such anticipation - will they be able to reach the high notes? will they scream "fuck" on the microphone?

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 19:22 (three years ago) link

ok that finally makes me think maybe "the star spangled banner" is good

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 19:23 (three years ago) link

this is my platonic ideal for a Star-Spangled Banner performance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWP8ZJ6674Y

shout-out to his family (DJP), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 19:33 (three years ago) link

This is pretty spectacular too:

https://youtu.be/8SHnpWohrg0

shout-out to his family (DJP), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 19:35 (three years ago) link

I find "pomp and circumstance" a bit...pompous and suggest Nelly's "country grammar" as a replacement

this has been the best year fuiud (rip van wanko), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 19:39 (three years ago) link

one of the few anthems I've heard that approximated Bleeding Gums Murphy's 26 minute version on The Simpsons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cf1HMZbTcz0

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 19:40 (three years ago) link

nothing will EVER beat that hockey game one though.

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 19:40 (three years ago) link

I love how Kat Deluna breathes about three times in each phrase. my choir teacher would have vivisected her

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 19:42 (three years ago) link

Also don't sleep on Carl Lewis(!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPhKAQi2hNI

shout-out to his family (DJP), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 19:44 (three years ago) link

Also don't sleep on Carl Lewis(!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPhKAQi2hNI

shout-out to his family (DJP), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 19:44 (three years ago) link

Kat Deluna's interpretation of pitch is amazing

I would have said "breathtaking" but she took all of them for me

shout-out to his family (DJP), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 19:45 (three years ago) link

when i was in college i wrote a column for my university paper arguing that we should replace the national anthem because it was too difficult to sing and the lyrics were militaristic and dumb, and i got an angry two-page letter from the university chief of police telling me i was a bad american.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 19:46 (three years ago) link

IRL lols at the "uh oh" on Carl Lewis's

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 19:47 (three years ago) link

can this be the thread where ILXors all psot their renditions of the SSB

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 19:48 (three years ago) link

Kat Deluna has some pipes but seems to have pitch control issues, I'll defer to Dang's judgement

Lol xxxp

this has been the best year fuiud (rip van wanko), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 19:49 (three years ago) link

lol JD

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 19:51 (three years ago) link


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