love* in the time of plague (and by love* i mean brexit* and other dreary matters of uk politics)

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It's amusing when you hear tories and Labour melts pretending to have heartfelt concerns about mental health/domestic abuse issues relating to homeworking when you know they have landlord friends and taken many sizable donations from Big property concerns who are shitting it over lost rent income

calzino, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 14:33 (three years ago) link

The government response to Gove being papped coming out of a Pret without a mask is to announce that you don't need to wear a mask if buying takeaway food.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 14:34 (three years ago) link

Same but weirdly I miss it as well, I used to use the train journey to sort of get over anything I was angry about/start fights on ilx/listen to that album I’d been looking forward to all day.
― scampos mentis (gyac), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 bookmarkflaglink

Sure I get that, my "calmly posting" was posted was on a train from Leeds I think :-) And I've read a ton on the commute in the past but idk, we'll (to borrow from stet) reconfigure. I've actually got round to doing a ton of stuff during lockdown (including reading through my pile of books).

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 14:37 (three years ago) link

No fucking way re the Pret thing

Mein Skampf (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 14:39 (three years ago) link

The Conservative Party fast-response leaves its Labour equivalent in the dust again!

calzino, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 14:43 (three years ago) link

Isn't Pret also a sit in eatery like Greggs?

calzino, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 14:44 (three years ago) link

Lol we are all going to etc.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 14:45 (three years ago) link

Away in a Pret a Manger, no bib for a pleb

calzino, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 14:58 (three years ago) link

if the price we must pay for deplatforming brillo pad is tens of thousands dead, is it still too high

scampo, foggy and clegg (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 15:01 (three years ago) link

getting sick of having to think of a breakfast, lunch and dinner seven days a week

||||||||, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 15:01 (three years ago) link

Sounds like Johnson admitted at PMQs that he hasn't read the second spike report yet.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 15:06 (three years ago) link

Pret is not good, change my mind.

scampos mentis (gyac), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 15:11 (three years ago) link

Xp
Murk him, Roy Cropper!

calzino, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 15:13 (three years ago) link

No melt will ever come up with a zing as perfect as the Roy Cropper one

Mein Skampf (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 15:18 (three years ago) link

Truth zing!

calzino, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 15:32 (three years ago) link

if Boris calls him Roy Cropper in a PMQ exchange that will be the final fatal blow to his chances of ever being PM

calzino, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 15:44 (three years ago) link

it would end up being the clip that got replayed 18 times throughout the news cycle as well.

calzino, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 15:48 (three years ago) link

Keep the show defund the host

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The Andrew Neil Show has been cut, as the BBC announces more than 500 job cuts.

― nashwan, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 bookmarkflaglink

pic.twitter.com/cQnvx9z2r8

— Cameron (@TheStirlingWolf) July 15, 2020

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 16:04 (three years ago) link

seen off

||||||||, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 16:11 (three years ago) link

i still bet those two kids reluctantly voted Tory

Mein Skampf (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 16:13 (three years ago) link

Nah, Laura K outed them as Labour activists and put their addresses on Twitter.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 16:14 (three years ago) link

I’m gonna need a decoder ring to keep track of what I’m supposed to do

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 16:24 (three years ago) link

do all our partners have to write for the Mail now, is that it?

stet, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 16:25 (three years ago) link

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/chris-grayling-intelligence-committee-julian-lewis-boris-johnson-a9621131.html

I suppose this makes it that little bit less likely that we're all gonna die, so small victories.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 16:54 (three years ago) link

And this is how it's done.

EXCLUSIVE: Julian Lewis has had the Conservative whip removed.

— Emilio Casalicchio (@e_casalicchio) July 15, 2020

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 19:24 (three years ago) link

Yeah, they're not fucking about. I mean it's in the service of god knows what corruption and dark money but they do not fuck about.

Mein Skampf (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 19:27 (three years ago) link

That's fucking mad.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 19:30 (three years ago) link

He owes them nothing now and he has access to the Russia report they've been sitting on for months. Presumably they knew he was planning to go ahead and release it anyway.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 19:32 (three years ago) link

Well yeah..

I’m told Intelligence & Security Committee, after humiliating Boris Johnson & his choice for chairman Chris Grayling by electing Julian Lewis instead, will meet again tomorrow & is expected to agree to publish long-suppressed report on Russian meddling in UK politics next week.

— Jon Craig (@joncraig) July 15, 2020

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 19:34 (three years ago) link

Can't help wondering why BoDom didn't choose a less risible stooge than Grayling

Mein Skampf (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 19:36 (three years ago) link

because that wouldn't have been as funny

calzino, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 19:40 (three years ago) link

This is amazing. Giving up control of ISC is mad enough, but before the Russia report to boot.

stet, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 19:42 (three years ago) link

Yeah they really bungled it picking Grayling. If they'd just put some grey haired nonentity up they'd have got away with it.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 20:19 (three years ago) link

I'm sure they only did it for lols as well, in fact I'm convinced!

calzino, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 20:27 (three years ago) link

Makes me wonder how many useful idiots that are fully on board with the project they have access to.

Meanwhile I've just seen the horrible new advert for Brexit, I'm sure that was a good use of public money.

Mein Skampf (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 20:39 (three years ago) link

I can't quite work this out - as an ERG member and brexiteer, wouldn't Lewis be exactly the kind of person that gvt. would want in this position? He seems to be a sort of Christopher Chope type.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 21:31 (three years ago) link

Cummings hates the ERG and wants them all gone. And they just want yes men scattered about the place, fundamentally

stet, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 21:41 (three years ago) link

I didn't know that he did. Makes a bit more sense.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 21:43 (three years ago) link

Absolutely incredible, this. According to Newsnight he told the Con. whip shortly before the meeting started that he wasn't standing even though he'd agreed to stand 48 hours earier.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 22:07 (three years ago) link

I wonder if this signals open hostilities between BoDom's Libertarian nutbag wing and the England Uber Alles nutbag wing of the Tories. Should be a lot of edifying fun if so

Mein Skampf (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 22:14 (three years ago) link

Was thinking the ERG thing would make him want to suppress the report but he also appears to be a military nut and Russia hawk so probably not.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 22:28 (three years ago) link

The cancellation of @afneil's show is great news for those in power wishing to avoid scrutiny and a shame for everyone else. https://t.co/2yRL5O8Jrf

— Wes Streeting MP (@wesstreeting) July 15, 2020

lol stop it Wes, you are killing us. No I mean really!

calzino, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 22:49 (three years ago) link

"a shame for everyone"
!

calzino, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 22:50 (three years ago) link

Such a drama qunt

We've never met or talked. You have no idea what my views are on any major issue today, tho you think you do. To call me "scarily right-wing" is inaccurate, a smear and a hard left trope. You should withdraw it. https://t.co/gOf3XQjGln

— Andrew Neil (@afneil) July 15, 2020

nashwan, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 23:01 (three years ago) link

Ah yes, those in power such as the PM who took a pasting from Andrew Neil before the election oh wait

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 23:10 (three years ago) link

This happened two years ago and it remains one of the most cursed mental images I've ever been given by this website pic.twitter.com/LmQ1WijkIo

— RopesToInfinity (@RopesToInfinity) July 16, 2020

at least you used to be able to laugh at the startlingly crass and embarrassing incognizance of Liz Truss back then, now she is a top trade negotiator and the deals she makes could have a lasting legacy on our lives!

calzino, Thursday, 16 July 2020 08:03 (three years ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jul/16/labour-changing-minds-rightwing-voters-roy-jenkins

".. that the future health of British society depended on doing things that the majority didn’t necessarily approve of, and that without radical change what was merely stagnant could rapidly become necrotic."

this is very good even though it makes reference to the SDP and is in the cursed Graun

calzino, Thursday, 16 July 2020 08:47 (three years ago) link

the idea of leading isn't about listening to every fucked up radge on the doorstep and moulding policy around their rants in between gulps of drinking their own urine. This much should be bleeding obvious.

calzino, Thursday, 16 July 2020 08:56 (three years ago) link

yeah i could quibble with that piece but the general argument is good and true

À la recherche du scamps perdu (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 16 July 2020 08:59 (three years ago) link

You could probably argue that 2016 represented the end of the line for politicians being able to say "you may not like this, but it's in the health of the nation and we know best", which had been stretched to breaking point from 2010 onwards. At this point I'm pretty sceptical about the idea of politicians being able to lead the debate, win the argument, convince people but trust in politicians is so low - that process tends to happen outside Westminster, other influential voices shape the debate more prominently.

The most successful politician of the last decade, in terms of effecting real change, was Farage and even he managed to take what was already latent, already in the air, and channel it. For a while it looked like Corbyn was the politician who would break that mould, but once again he was channeling something in wider society, my old point about Corbynism preceding Corbyn.

The pandemic might have blown all this up in the air again, in fact it probably has already, but it's too soon to see how that would play out.

Matt DC, Thursday, 16 July 2020 09:02 (three years ago) link


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