Everybody Knows This is Nowhere AAfter the Gold Rush AHarvest ATime Fades Away A-On the Beach A+Tonight's the Night A+Homegrown B-Zuma BAmerican Stars n Bars B-Comes a Time BRust Never Sleeps B
― Temporary Erogenous Zone (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 01:40 (three years ago) link
(I do understand ending that run with Rust, but I tend to stretch it out through Hawks and Doves and Reactor, both A-minuses for me. It all comes crashing down with the next one.)
― clemenza, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 01:44 (three years ago) link
I've been listening to reactor a lot lately,the closing track (shots?) is killer but I even enjoy the hell out of t-bone
― Temporary Erogenous Zone (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 01:45 (three years ago) link
fact: There are no C+ or below albums during the Neil Young undisputed classic era
― The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 01:49 (three years ago) link
(I do understand ending that run with Rust, but I tend to stretch it out through Hawks and Doves and Reactor, both A-minuses for me.
i considered going all the way to Trans (which i like better than the previous 2, but decided to cut them off, especially given the *absolutely impossible!* 60 second time limit
― The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 01:51 (three years ago) link
s/t being unfairly left out imo
― budo jeru, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 03:05 (three years ago) link
that is a very fair opinion! but i'm going undisputed classic run, undisputeds only!
― The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 03:16 (three years ago) link
wait is "neil young" the "david bowie" of neil young ?
― budo jeru, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 03:23 (three years ago) link
Missing Long May You Run (which ultimately is an EP of Neil curios saddled with Stills cocaine fantasies) as well.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 03:24 (three years ago) link
uh oh
― budo jeru, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 03:26 (three years ago) link
― budo jeru
i'm willing to say that yes, "neil young" is the "david bowie" of neil young
― The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 03:32 (three years ago) link
there's so much promise there and some damn good performances too
I gotta say I was pleasantly surprised by how much I enjoyed American Stars N Bars when I finally checked it out recently.
― brimstead, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 03:45 (three years ago) link
Haven't listened to the debut in a while, but I've always loved "The Loner," "The Emperor of Wyoming," and "I've Been Waiting for You," and the there are other good ones too--A-minus? Not a big fan of Stills-Young, except for "Ocean Girl," which is (I know I'm alone on this one) one my 10 favourite Neil songs.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 04:03 (three years ago) link
The Loner and The Old Laughing Lady are huge classics.
― brimstead, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 04:16 (three years ago) link
well, the part of “old laughing lady” with the chanting and funky drumming anyway
― brimstead, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 04:18 (three years ago) link
I kind of love that "Ocean Girl" is a rewrite of "War Song".
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 04:26 (three years ago) link
lol you squares are just not getting it
this is the FOLLOWUP TO HARVEST. it's a context thing. who gives a shit what happened to some of these songs afterwards? it was all 100% new when released. you can look through your shit-colored glasses of historical reassessment and alt-version snobbery, but the true heads all know what's up here.
y'all need to suck down some honey sliders and make like you've been eagerly awaiting this moment without any preconceptions, you are hippies who dig Neil and it is 1973, time to put the new album on.
THIS
― a (waterface), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 12:39 (three years ago) link
Everybody Knows This is Nowhere A-After the Gold Rush A+Harvest B-Time Fades Away A+On the Beach A+Tonight's the Night A+Homegrown B+Zuma BAmerican Stars n Bars B+Comes a Time CRust Never Sleeps A+
― a (waterface), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 12:40 (three years ago) link
Forgot about what a shock it was to hear "War Song" for the first time on Archives--basically the same song with new lyrics.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 12:55 (three years ago) link
one of his very early garage band tunes on Archives has the melody for Barstool Blues can't remember the name offhand
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 13:04 (three years ago) link
"I Wonder" got retooled into "Don't Cry No Tears"--is that what you're thinking of?
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 13:10 (three years ago) link
That's the one. Was just checking, couldn't find a "Barstool Blues" soundalike, but now I remember the same surprise hearing "I Wonder" for the first time.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 13:16 (three years ago) link
oops yeah sorry Don't Cry no Tears, been a long time since I listened to the box
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 13:29 (three years ago) link
Everybody Knows This is Nowhere AAfter the Gold Rush A+Harvest A-Time Fades Away BOn the Beach A+Tonight's the Night A+Homegrown A-Zuma AAmerican Stars n Bars B-Comes a Time BRust Never Sleeps A-
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 16:13 (three years ago) link
As much of an unholy mess as it is, I'd probably give Journey Through the Past a B--for "Soldier," for an even more epically dirge-like "Words" than on Harvest, and for the way it previews what's coming down the road. The film is also a fascinating mess.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 20:45 (three years ago) link
OK if we're doing this
Everybody Knows This is Nowhere B+After the Gold Rush A+Harvest ATime Fades Away AOn the Beach A-Tonight's the Night AHomegrown B-Zuma BAmerican Stars n Bars A-Comes a Time BRust Never Sleeps A+
― Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 21:11 (three years ago) link
Everybody Knows This is Nowhere AAfter the Gold Rush AHarvest BTime Fades Away B+On the Beach A+Tonight's the Night A+Homegrown B+Zuma A-American Stars n Bars BComes a Time B-Rust Never Sleeps A+
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 21:55 (three years ago) link
Hitchhiker - B+ if that counts
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 21:57 (three years ago) link
Can't say I expected anyone to rate ASnB over Zuma, but hey.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 21:59 (three years ago) link
Zuma is uneven and lacks the pathos of previous Crazy Horse albums (maybe blame Pancho for this), also "Stupid Girl" is an abomination
AS&B is great
― Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 22:20 (three years ago) link
paul, coming in with the wrong takes left and right in this thread!
― tylerw, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 22:28 (three years ago) link
is there something I'm missing in the lyrics that makes "Stupid Girl" abominable?
it's not called "girls are stupid"...it's addressed to one person the narrator is calling stupid!
anyway it's a jam
― singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 22:29 (three years ago) link
i agree. i still wouldn't put it on a mixtape for someone i saw in mercedes benz or is a girl, though.
― a morley steve vai bad horsie what? (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 22:34 (three years ago) link
It's not just the lyrics (which are, come on, pretty dumb), it's the double high / low vocal, so grating
― Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 22:36 (three years ago) link
haha I can see that
― sleeve, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 22:39 (three years ago) link
xp oh ok, I like those vocals! Anyway I'm guessing maybe about half of neil's best songs have pretty dumb lyrics
― singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 22:40 (three years ago) link
surely a heart of gold could not even contract and relax to perform its primary function!
― a morley steve vai bad horsie what? (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 22:43 (three years ago) link
for real and what cowboy ever had anything to do with computers
― singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 22:46 (three years ago) link
Yeah--I think the worst you can accuse it of is rock-star pettiness, Neil getting his back up over some perceived but specific slight, the kind of song Dylan wrote routinely in the mid-'60s (not all directed at a woman, but some were, I think). It's not a sweeping indictment of women. Wasn't Neil in general pretty good in that area during the '70s?
― clemenza, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 23:03 (three years ago) link
I know, "A Man Needs a Maid"...which is more complex, I think--because of the Carrie verse--than a quick reading suggests.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 23:05 (three years ago) link
right...but you don't have to be a rock star or even petty to be upset with a person and vent in song. Maybe the slight was legit! We just don't know.
― singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 23:07 (three years ago) link
I think for the generally assumed baseline of 70s rock guys being terrible to women Neil was relatively good
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 16 July 2020 00:46 (three years ago) link
Can't imagine him writing a lyric like the Faces' "Stay with Me."
― clemenza, Thursday, 16 July 2020 01:06 (three years ago) link
He could, but it'd be about a car he only drove once.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 16 July 2020 01:24 (three years ago) link
Neil strikes me as someone who probably avoided a lot of potential groupie interactions by being weird and remote
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 16 July 2020 01:29 (three years ago) link
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Thank you.
― Tōne Locatelli Romano (PBKR), Thursday, 16 July 2020 11:35 (three years ago) link
That was great, yeah.
― clemenza, Thursday, 16 July 2020 12:58 (three years ago) link
Everybody Knows This is Nowhere A-After the Gold Rush A+Harvest ATime Fades Away AOn the Beach A+Tonight's the Night B+Homegrown A-Zuma A-American Stars n Bars BComes a Time CRust Never Sleeps A-
― walking towards the sun since 2007 (alex in mainhattan), Thursday, 16 July 2020 16:56 (three years ago) link
For me, every album in that rundown would get at minimum a solid A except Harvest (A-), American Stars 'n Bars (B+) and Comes a Time (B+).
― birdistheword, Thursday, 16 July 2020 19:43 (three years ago) link