rolling #metoo thread for sexual harassment in the music industry so no one misses out when artists we don't give a fuck about like Tim Westwood and Bassnectar get caught

this thread is super depressing but this made me lol irl

I hear that Gesualdo guy was an asshole.

― pomenitul, Thursday, July 9, 2020 7:36 PM (yesterday)bookmarkflaglink

and yet he's still being played every hour, on the hour, on classic rock radio, sickening

― Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, July 9, 2020 7:38 PM (yesterday)

we all know rock n roll was partly built on this but it would be nice if we didn’t have to wait for the people to die, then wait for the mourning to die down, before any kind of minor reckoning with them. even nicer if it was their peers calling them out but that’s not happening & who else wants to deal with the threats

I can't believe Jimmy Page has spent the last 40 years living the life of luxury instead of serving a hefty prison sentence. Gary Glitter must look at that guy and conclude that his own biggest mistake was failing to grease the right palms.

I think it's more about failing to be in Led Zeppelin and being Gary Glitter instead.

fans were openly talking about child rape like it was supposed to be hilarious/awesome/badass until v recently, it was apparently a selling point

in the UK after jimmy savile there was a brief moment when more ppl actually seemed to want to deal with this shit, interest seemed to die down a lot after the behaviour of actual cool people started being questioned

In my city there are a lot of disturbing allegations coming to light on the music 'scene' right now

Stranger still is people with a reputation for being dodgy themselves being very publicly vocal in the pile-on against those who have abusive tendencies, almost as if they have something to hide

Funny that

Different world here of course

a coke dealer who is at after hours venues here often that is an acquaintance of mine posted a notes app apology for his toxic behavior in his Insta story recently. weird world we're in

Weird that he apologized, not weird whatsoever that local scenes are crawling w creeps??

yeah, it was the apology with the language and format of a public figure or artist that was incongruous. after hours drug dealer definitely not a surprising person to be a creep

I think it’s good that this nobody loser creep apologized publicly. If that happened more often maybe fewer people would have to endure being harassed and assaulted.

the booker at a significant venue here has been publically accused of some really grim stuff, and the way it has snowballed has been horrible to watch. It's been an open secret for nearly a decade that this man has been violent, aggressive and abusive to other men in the local music scene, and a number of women have come out in the past few weeks explaining that their relationships with him have been characterised by domestic abuse. But because he's managed to position himself as someone with influence and power within the local scene, very few people have felt able to speak out about this stuff. It's the classic story of how these guys manage to get away with it and for so long: manouvre into a situation where they have power, then abuse that power to allow shitty behaviour to go unchallenged.

People like that might suddenly find themselves very exposed when venues run out of cash and start closing down.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CCqb8P3FJb5/

^ Clem Creevy of Cherry Glazerr names Sean Redman, former bandmate and current bassist of the Buttertones, as a statutory rapist.

No longer current, it seems and they've been dropped by the label too.

I saw some allegations on twitter against the singer as well.

never heard of em before but good job all around

Quebec's being rocked by a new #MeToo movement, where people make (non-anonymous) allegations to certain websites/FB groups, who vet the reports somehow and then publish these allegations anonymously. (Obviously lots could go wrong here.)

More than 1100 people have been named so far, including celebrated local musicians like Kevin Parent, Bernard Adamus, Alex Nevsky, Yann Perreault and members of Simple Plan, Timber Timbre, Radio Radio, etc. It's much heavier/broader than any previous MeToo stuff to hit here. https://dissonnom.wordpress.com/?fbclid=IwAR3xrYuFh69clvKTE_RwFgb2hk0Fp5Z39gu6ZNC4z1w8lrjzU2-SaF6OtqM

so...pretty much everyone, then?

who vet the reports somehow

How does this work, exactly?

i read a detailed post about it on Victims_Voices_Montreal (which has since been taken down)... my impression was that most of the vetting comes down to trying to flag if the accuser is a sock-puppet or troll. obviously: not without the capacity to make mistakes.

https://www.instagram.com/lured_by_burger_records/

yeah that's really disgusting stuff

i feel like that label fits in with whiney's "PIZZA!" thread

in more ways than one

snorted out loud at work

Interesting, that link sean posted about the Quebec allegations has already disappeared.

came here to post the lured by burger insta. definitely not cool how widespread it seemed to be in that scene. i fucking hate people ugh.

As the Burger stuff comes to light, a lot of people on Twitter are also saying that Mac DeMarco has had credible allegations? Has anyone seen this?

idk about mdm. after hearing about this stuff so much recently from la scene dudes, i kind of just get totally cynical and start believing that any dude who plays guitar is like that to some extent or another. i know: i'm not being fair, but jfc how common is this sort of behavior in "the scene"?

unrelated, but over the last week there have also been allegations thrown at london singer songwriter cosmo pyke which sucks because i genuinely like his music.

also sorry for the reddit link; the twitter account that was highlighted for initially calling him out is on private or restricted or whatever twitter's variation of that is. big time trigger warning for that link, btw. tons of victim blaming / shaming. it's reddit; you probably already know.

I'll bet my house Mac DeMarco is a piece of shit

there was already this

http://archive.is/iURtf

As the Burger stuff comes to light, a lot of people on Twitter are also saying that Mac DeMarco has had credible allegations? Has anyone seen this?

― Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Monday, July 20, 2020 3:53 PM (fifty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I have heard things about Mac Demarco

(my gf knew him when he lived here and knew girls who had unpleasant experiences with him)

"clearly, the responsible thing to do here is to rebrand our name in all caps and no vowels, it's the only way to atone" pic.twitter.com/Bb2hmftagT

— Al Shipley (@alshipley) July 21, 2020

goddamn, they found a way to make it even worse.

fullerton cali forn eye aye

had totally missed this about mind of a dragon until i saw it mentioned in ra's ukg article from today:

https://www.residentadvisor.net/news/72888

"grim reapah!" BRGRRRL

this burger recs things has got me genuinely heated. seriously want a bunch of cis and trans women to bamboozle their collective way into that new imprint thingie, just fuck their shit up, and erase them from history. what a fucking joke.

they blew it by not calling the female imprint "FRR BRGR"

Disappointing to see that Pitchfork's article about this today is basically just repeating the label's official statement while only obliquely mentioning the existence of allegations, while others (like Consequence of Sound) actually delve into the specific allegations and bands involved.

"grim reapah!" BRGRRRL

― trapped out the barndo (crüt), Tuesday, July 21, 2020 11:28 AM (eighteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

A+ crut

yeah I am incapacitated

well played

https://pitchfork.com/news/burger-records-shuts-down-completely/

When asked about the future of the label and its leadership, Bohrman responded to Pitchfork, “We decided to fold the label.” When asked if Burger would still continue as the rebranded BRGR RCRDS, Bohrman replied, “Nope.” Asked for further comment, he linked to a clip of Porky Pig saying “that’s all folks.”

https://acegif.com/wp-content/gifs/nope-25-gap.jpg

holy shit.

they'd've gotten away with it if it hadn't been for those meddling kids

Meanwhile, the Bloodshot situation that blew up last year is apparently now leading to the demise of the label as a whole -- artists not getting paid, label now up for sale:

https://www.savingcountrymusic.com/bloodshot-records-artists-warned-of-sale-accounting-issues/