It's POLL For You -- ILM artist poll #103 -- JANET JACKSON (voting open until July 24, 2020)

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I remember five summers ago almost weeping when "No Sleeep" was so damn good.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 July 2020 00:12 (three years ago) link

Same.

Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Friday, 10 July 2020 00:19 (three years ago) link

Was just thinking that if "Feels So Right" had shown up in, say, the back half of Erykah Badu's "Cain't Use My Phone" EP I'd still be spinning it weekly to this day.

Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Friday, 10 July 2020 01:12 (three years ago) link

omg TIL Janet released a promo-only single for Pepsi in 1999 that I don't believe has been available anywhere else since?? I wouldn't say it's one of her all time best tracks but I def don't hate it and it came with a Masters At Work remix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrASTW9DCm8

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 10 July 2020 13:53 (three years ago) link

The post-All For You records aren't doing a whole lot for me these first time through them, but for what its worth, "So Much Betta" (from Discipline) is the only thing I've heard so far that I think is flat-out awful.

A White, White Gay (cryptosicko), Friday, 10 July 2020 22:39 (three years ago) link

*THIS first time through them

A White, White Gay (cryptosicko), Friday, 10 July 2020 22:40 (three years ago) link

oh that's how i feel about "this body" on 20 y.o.. terrible

i like "so much betta"

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 10 July 2020 22:43 (three years ago) link

I used to hate “Rock With U” but I played it the other day and was like “wait this slams, what is happening”

shout-out to his family (DJP), Friday, 10 July 2020 23:48 (three years ago) link

yep

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 July 2020 23:52 (three years ago) link

the bridge in "the great forever" is unreal

ufo, Saturday, 11 July 2020 00:54 (three years ago) link

I wish "Free Xone" had more xones. Xones to infinity.

geoffreyess, Saturday, 11 July 2020 01:45 (three years ago) link

how do i get everyone to vote for "night"

top ten for me, I promise

geoffreyess, Saturday, 11 July 2020 01:45 (three years ago) link

One rule
No rules

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 11 July 2020 04:23 (three years ago) link

Okay, after a couple of listens of “Janet Jackson” and “Dream Street” my takeaway is that the s/t is pretty unexceptional and generic but “Dream Street” is like... pretty great?? Which surprised me, bcz my impression was that they were both equally mediocre and filler-y.

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 11 July 2020 13:58 (three years ago) link

i still think dream street is a little patchy but again, the jesse johnson and marlon jackson tracks, whew

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 11 July 2020 13:59 (three years ago) link

also i have tried very hard but there's no way i'm ever going to like "two to the power of love"

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 11 July 2020 14:00 (three years ago) link

it does not make the mistake the debut makes of wandering off into wispy ballad land

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 11 July 2020 14:01 (three years ago) link

Oh yeah it’s definitely patchy and imperfect and nowhere near the tier of Control thru Velvet Rope BUT it is a bigger improvement over the s/t than I thought, like in terms of sonic palette I can see a progression from Dream Street to Control, it’s not like a total schism like Underworld’s first 2 albums or something.

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 11 July 2020 18:05 (three years ago) link

also I love love LOVE “Pretty Boy”’s booming “ONE👏TWO👏ONE TWO THREE FOUR” followed by, like, a pleasant but fairly sedate synthesizer solo that is nowhere near as grand as one would expect from such a count-off

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 11 July 2020 18:11 (three years ago) link

listening to damita jo for the first time and "strawberry bounce"!!!

ufo, Saturday, 11 July 2020 23:42 (three years ago) link

It is a secret weapon

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 12 July 2020 04:11 (three years ago) link

Strawberry Bounce will likely be in the 20-25 range for me

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Sunday, 12 July 2020 13:49 (three years ago) link

Strawberry Bounce is probably going to just miss out on my list but there will be a handful of Damita Jo songs in there.

kitchen person, Sunday, 12 July 2020 14:29 (three years ago) link

Would it be fair to say that the general consensus is that 20YO is the nadir of her post-Control career?

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 12 July 2020 19:15 (three years ago) link

yes and i agree with the consensus

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 12 July 2020 19:29 (three years ago) link

Yeah, that's quite comfortably her weakest album.

kitchen person, Sunday, 12 July 2020 20:22 (three years ago) link

damita jo is her most consistent album. there are no duds! and, like, at least ten perfect songs

uberweiss, Sunday, 12 July 2020 20:39 (three years ago) link

"all nite (don't stop)", "warmth" and "slolove" will all be in my top 10 probs

uberweiss, Sunday, 12 July 2020 20:44 (three years ago) link

i would argue Velvet Rope as her MOST consistent album.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 12 July 2020 22:06 (three years ago) link

but some of this may be a "your favorite season of SNL" argument
except Janet is, you know, talented

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 12 July 2020 22:06 (three years ago) link

I want to love All For You SO BAD but after like 4 listens, it is just not sticking. It’s too mellow, too straightforward, Velvet Rope was SO innovative futuristic boundary-pushing and in comparison All For You sounds a lot more traditional. It’s not BAD, I just don’t find it very compelling. I’m secretly hoping someone can provide a good argument to convince me otherwise.

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 12 July 2020 22:33 (three years ago) link

20 yo is definitely not a great album, but "take care" is insane. one of my very faves

ah ah
take care of me
ah ah
fulfil my needs

uberweiss, Sunday, 12 July 2020 23:09 (three years ago) link

Fuck Unbreakable is so good. The duel between the laser zaps and piano at the end of Night!

Tim F, Monday, 13 July 2020 10:14 (three years ago) link

unbreakable is really just as great as her run from control to velvet rope. i think the only things i don't like about it are that the j cole version of "no sleeep" was on the album and that 60s psych sample on the last track.

ufo, Monday, 13 July 2020 10:20 (three years ago) link

otm

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 July 2020 10:26 (three years ago) link

janet during "spending time with you": "god i just love listening to that"
me: "me too janet!!!!"

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 13 July 2020 12:43 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuDrC_b-CNo

spending more time with 20 yo hasn't endeared me to the album as a whole very much, but i certainly love this song

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 13 July 2020 16:02 (three years ago) link

i feel like after a dodgy first few songs it's pretty consistently good though. "take care" is the best song ever and i'm def voting for "do it 2 me" as well

with you it's whatever your pleasure is to give me pleasure that's why i call on youuuu <3

and "daybreak" is sick too!

uberweiss, Monday, 13 July 2020 18:48 (three years ago) link

"take care" and "do it 2 me" are the other incredibly amazing songs on there

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 13 July 2020 19:00 (three years ago) link

giving up today, this isn’t going to get any easier

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 13 July 2020 20:50 (three years ago) link

am i missing out on any incredible outtakes that i haven’t heard

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 13 July 2020 20:52 (three years ago) link

only 40 top tracks... the injustice....

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 13 July 2020 21:00 (three years ago) link

Not quite “incredible” but Janet covering Joni’s “The Beat of Black Wings” and announcing in the intro that it is her favourite song is definitely a mood.

Tim F, Monday, 13 July 2020 21:24 (three years ago) link

given the heartbreaking cuts i've already made, i guess it's unlikely anything new would break into my top 40 anyway

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 13 July 2020 21:38 (three years ago) link

I need to do some last minute revision and give Unbreakable another listen, but I'm getting close. I have a 40 song list that could work.

Not sure I'm going to be able to join in with the side polls apart from albums. Maybe the interludes at a push?

kitchen person, Tuesday, 14 July 2020 01:08 (three years ago) link

i could only do albums and music videos

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 01:26 (three years ago) link

i mean i wanted to participate in the interlude poll but it’s basically “speaker phone” and then everything else

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 01:26 (three years ago) link

LET'S GO

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 01:58 (three years ago) link

MINNEAPOLIS

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 01:58 (three years ago) link

I've really become obsessed with Runaway over the last week. Definitely needs to be higher on my ballot than it currently is.

kitchen person, Tuesday, 14 July 2020 14:36 (three years ago) link


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