Free Speech and Creepy Liberalism

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HOT OFF THE PRESS

What kind of demand would you have liked? Someone’s firing? That was the point of the letter, to simply express support the right of people to disagree without consequence. https://t.co/HP4PaGu1pZ

— Matt Taibbi (@mtaibbi) July 8, 2020

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 19:48 (three years ago) link

And yeah I guess this is the kind of stuff leftist profs complained about back in the 70s, but it's just academic conferences- wgaf? McWhorter's voice is amplified a lot more than most linguists' are.

Yeah, but if (as he has stated many times) he would rather be known as a linguist, and build his stature within the academy, than as a political pundit, lining up Sunday morning talk show bookings, I could see how this could be a real problem.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 19:50 (three years ago) link

does taibbi pay people to search his name to defend him on twitter or does he just have a lot of sock puppets

there are certain things about him you can’t say w/o being swarmed & i can see what he wants to maintain that state of affairs

"certain things"

DJI, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 19:57 (three years ago) link

he’s a rapist

oh no is that cancellation

Maybe if you keep trying hard enough.

DJI, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 19:58 (three years ago) link

will do

Yeah, but if (as he has stated many times) he would rather be known as a linguist, and build his stature within the academy, than as a political pundit, lining up Sunday morning talk show bookings, I could see how this could be a real problem.

― but also fuck you (unperson)

sure, i could see why he wouldn't want to be lumped in with people like noam chomsky... uhh....

Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 19:59 (three years ago) link

if singal and crew don't act, repeatedly and blatantly, in bad faith, the intersectional left would have nothing to do but have arcane debates on theory with no relevance to anybody's life

ha i love this!

sarahell, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 20:00 (three years ago) link

shouldn't bill gates have the right to only be talked about in terms of his philanthropy? i mean, that whole microsoft thing was a really long time ago...

Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 20:01 (three years ago) link

bill gates wants to kill americans with his evil coronavirus masks iirc

imago, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 20:01 (three years ago) link

my theory over the past few weeks is that matt taibbi is trying to pivot to a conservative outlet

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 20:03 (three years ago) link

xp - otoh windows 10 isn't as bad as I thought it was at first

sarahell, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 20:03 (three years ago) link

like i've never been a fan but he's been on some other shit recently xp

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 20:04 (three years ago) link

he doesn't get invited to linguistics conferences

Maybe he should try applying like the rest of us have to

rob, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 20:10 (three years ago) link

This was the only half-way decent thread that both came in from the left and tried to argue that this statement had something right about it. From a free speech angle.

Lots of good replies that largely argued with it/shoot it down

broadly agree with this harper's letter tbh https://t.co/d43O9i5QmL

— Lafargue (@Lafargue) July 7, 2020

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 20:56 (three years ago) link

The thread starter expands more on his initial statement as he's asked about it, not a thread as such.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 20:58 (three years ago) link

my theory over the past few weeks is that matt taibbi is trying to pivot to a conservative outlet
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, July 8, 2020 8:03 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

easier paycheck riding the grift I guess

per aspera ad scampo (||||||||), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 22:19 (three years ago) link

I'll be the stan I guess. The idea that Matt Taibbi is cynically deciding to grab for money with his latest takes seems pretty ludicrous to me. The idea that you would only read/take seriously the ideas of someone that you completely agree with is very... ILX?

DJI, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 22:30 (three years ago) link

his last few substack newsletters have been absolute dogshit on an argument and prose level i’m sorry

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 22:38 (three years ago) link

like it’s beneath him

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 22:39 (three years ago) link

that's newsletters for ya

j., Wednesday, 8 July 2020 22:43 (three years ago) link

I'm not sure what sucks people into the whining about how bad "our" side is, but it definitely isn't a great look, given the crimes on the right. OTOH, when people (itt) say stuff like "look at how effective it has been [to shut down debate/de-platform, etc.]," they're right, but they cannot be blind to the irony of pushing an ends-justifies-the-means argument.

DJI, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 22:46 (three years ago) link

perhaps ILX can make its own conservative television network, and surreptitiously donate all of our millions to left-wing causes

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 22:57 (three years ago) link

will it be 24 hour wolf erotica?

sarahell, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 22:59 (three years ago) link

The idea that you would only read/take seriously the ideas of someone that you completely agree with is very... ILX?

Gonna be deeply upset if not blindly de-platforming and shutting down any human who doesn't hold and regurgitate my exact opinions back at me like a Leninist is now grounds for being labelled a "Matt Taibbi stan" :(

Sabre of Paradise (trevor phillips), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 23:09 (three years ago) link

Like why would you ever listen to the opinion of anyone who thinks Aja>Gaucho ffs

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 23:23 (three years ago) link

a lot smartarses on this thread who don't remember when the Dead Kennedys told nazi punks to fuck off and the nazi punks fucked off and now there's no nazi punks and DUMPLINGS!! has been weakened

Committee of Public Scampi (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 23:26 (three years ago) link

Can confirm, have never met a nazi punk.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 23:29 (three years ago) link

Lol

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Thursday, 9 July 2020 00:20 (three years ago) link

On canceling

161,000 people are currently Cancelled for drug possession. possession. 470,000 Cancelled for drug related offenses

Cancelled as in currently locked in a cage

— emma (@angelhoneycomb) July 9, 2020

anvil, Thursday, 9 July 2020 09:18 (three years ago) link

The idea that you would only read/take seriously the ideas of someone that you completely agree with is very... ILX?

May I introduce you to the rest of the internet? Always funny to me when ppl seem unaware of how lukewarm ILX is.

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 9 July 2020 10:06 (three years ago) link

Still having problems understanding why people who dislike ILX are, er, on ILX tbh.

The Fields o' Fat Henry (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 July 2020 11:08 (three years ago) link

For the same reason why the aging curmudgeon who insists all post-Moving Pictures releases are terrible continues to be the most prolific poster on Rush forums

I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Thursday, 9 July 2020 11:18 (three years ago) link

ILX: Love it or Leave it

sarahell, Thursday, 9 July 2020 19:17 (three years ago) link

ilx is def getting to me... like i do give a lot of leeway right now due to CORONAVIRUS pent up craziness, but still. i think i want to stick around so i can save all of you. y'all sick and it ain't covid! lol

lumen (esby), Thursday, 9 July 2020 19:29 (three years ago) link

You can leave

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Thursday, 9 July 2020 19:32 (three years ago) link

some ppl have suggested that, yes!

lumen (esby), Thursday, 9 July 2020 19:33 (three years ago) link

sad cunt has to have a hobby

Temporary Erogenous Zone (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 9 July 2020 19:34 (three years ago) link

hey! where I'm from that word is 'edgy'. u could get cancelled!

lumen (esby), Thursday, 9 July 2020 19:35 (three years ago) link

like, you know who uses the word 'c*nt?' Louis ck. probably bill Cosby too. are you also a rapist?

lumen (esby), Thursday, 9 July 2020 19:36 (three years ago) link

he’s not from vancouver, you absolute cocknballs

solo scampito (mh), Thursday, 9 July 2020 19:53 (three years ago) link

esby of green gables

Yerac, Thursday, 9 July 2020 19:53 (three years ago) link

Idk why ilx needs to give esby the attention he clearly isn’t getting at home.

scampos mentis (gyac), Thursday, 9 July 2020 19:54 (three years ago) link

I bring joy to this forum. all the time. for free. and you want to cancel me. I stand with Noam Chomsky against all of you.

lumen (esby), Thursday, 9 July 2020 19:56 (three years ago) link

i do kind of remember sleeping bag now that i think about it. But maybe because of user:sleep.

Yerac, Thursday, 9 July 2020 19:57 (three years ago) link

follow the posts toward the troll-filled land

trapped out the barndo (crüt), Thursday, 9 July 2020 20:10 (three years ago) link

esby comes from a land of ice and snow iirc

sarahell, Thursday, 9 July 2020 20:20 (three years ago) link


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