Never Have I Ever… Said 'It's Complicated'.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 19:50 (three years ago) link
Chomsky mad and shook would be something to behold
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 19:51 (three years ago) link
Liberals gonna liberal.
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 19:52 (three years ago) link
I'm also going to say it: Reginald Dwayne Betts is a shitty fucking poet, and that the white poetry establishment is exploiting him and his story is remarkably easy to discern to anyone paying attention
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 19:54 (three years ago) link
chomsky has always been v pro free speech for fascists
― If you choose too long a name, your new display name will be truncated in (Left), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 20:20 (three years ago) link
basically
That letter in Harper’s: Instructive to see this during a Black-led revolution against systemic racism and brutality in all institutions - not just the police.At a time when voices long kept out of institutions are heard, so many voices most buoyed by institutions complain.— Mona Eltahawy (@monaeltahawy) July 7, 2020
― If you choose too long a name, your new display name will be truncated in (Left), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 20:50 (three years ago) link
noam agonizing over killer mike admitting to having read him
― Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 21:02 (three years ago) link
did bill cosby sign this letter
― Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 21:07 (three years ago) link
lol
― all cats are beautiful (silby), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 21:08 (three years ago) link
xp
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 21:09 (three years ago) link
are they calling themselves Coalition of the Cancelled yet?
― Committee of Public Scampi (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 21:11 (three years ago) link
It’s just so dopey. like 97 times out of 100 I’m probably going to be a freeze peach guy but this shit just reeks of monocled dorks mad that people ruthlessly dunk on them online. Just fuck off back to your untaxed unearned inheritance and let people have fun at your expense ffs
― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 21:27 (three years ago) link
Never let it be said that Ivy League education doesn't reduce one to a gibbering imbecile.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 21:30 (three years ago) link
Every time we or an expert shows the folly and wrongness of bad science, another asshole comes along promulgating it, which forces uni administrators and faculty to use gross capitalist terms like The Marketplace of Ideas. They want debate, but what's the point? To debate these spineless bimbos is to set yourself up for exhaustion. No one learns a thing.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 21:33 (three years ago) link
Could have a poll on most depressing signature to find on here, for me it's a close call between Chomsky and John McWhorter. Lolz at Wynton Marsalis being there.
― Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 21:37 (three years ago) link
did someone say something nice about free jazz?
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 21:44 (three years ago) link
Free jazz is a vehicle for 'a new set of moral attitudes and political commitments that tend to weaken our norms of open debate and toleration of differences in favor of ideological conformity' iirc.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 21:45 (three years ago) link
Matthew Yglesias & Jeet Heer but no Matt Taibbi
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 21:46 (three years ago) link
doesn't McWhorter complain about lefty stuff all the time, or on his podcast with Glenn Loury at least
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 21:47 (three years ago) link
a little surprised to see Dahlia Lithwick
I don't follow McWhorter's political stuff at all, I dare not, but his excellent writing and lectures on linguistics was my way in to the subject and so I still feel a need to defend him for some stupid reason.
― Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 21:49 (three years ago) link
xp yes he does, he's been working a lucrative side career as a sensible-voice-of-reason for years now
― j., Tuesday, 7 July 2020 21:49 (three years ago) link
I can spot the posters who are v pro-free speech for anyone who agrees with them
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 21:53 (three years ago) link
i deleted such a scorcher from the post box lol. you guys would have been so owned. it was gonna be sweeeeeet
― lumen (esby), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 21:54 (three years ago) link
debate is wank but free speechers don’t even want that they just want the plebs to shut up and do as they say. bourgeois liberalism is basically the alt right now
― If you choose too long a name, your new display name will be truncated in (Left), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 21:58 (three years ago) link
Would be nice just to have an official proclamation of exactly what "free speech" means from every world government which would then be prominently displayed in public places.
Anyone who publicly disagreed with it should then be given a show trial and be sent to work in the salt mines, that would stop Count dankula making those stupid fucking videos for a start.
― Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 21:58 (three years ago) link
it's interesting that the cultural/meme-ic uptake was for the idea of 'cancellation', presumably a direct transfer from the cancellation of shows because of (moral) scandals befalling/perpetrated by the creative staff for them (or sometimes entirely within their content), because the people who complain most about it now seem to enjoy many of the perks of the opposite, viz. being culturally scheduled. the idea of a 'platform' is like that, but it doesn't get at the same way in which these people have a presumption to always have attention come back around to them, and to be broadcast to people who choose from a small range of options (channels). and obviously it's helped to exceed the bounds of that framework by political polarization and narrow horizons of possibilities, to become the idea that anyone and everyone within a certain scope / past a certain level is entitled to the perks of espousing some point of view which is systemically bound to be repeated at certain intervals in a rightful order.
― j., Tuesday, 7 July 2020 21:59 (three years ago) link
how do you pin a tweet on a thread
a bunch of rich people are tired of getting feedback— octave (@curtofranklin) July 7, 2020
― If you choose too long a name, your new display name will be truncated in (Left), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 22:02 (three years ago) link
The circle of concern of intellectuals has become so narrow and insular that it's basically a defense of its own class issues in the guise of statements about freedom. There is no interest whatsoever in the crises facing the nation at large.— John Ganz (@lionel_trolling) July 7, 2020
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 22:03 (three years ago) link
Not sure either tweet applies to, say, Kamel Daoud.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 22:04 (three years ago) link
Lame to see jeet in there, I find he’s on point most of the time, probably should’ve checked in to see who else was signing and adhered to the failsafe rule “Don’t put your name to anything that’s been co-signed by Bari Weiss”
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 22:06 (three years ago) link
…or Khaled Khalifa. I think it's safe to assume that not everyone signed this open letter for the same reasons.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 22:08 (three years ago) link
lol xp was about to say recommend viewing anything Katie Herzog signs onto with extreme prejudice
― JoeStork, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 22:13 (three years ago) link
disappointed to see david blight, garry wills, and a couple other cool ppl on this list
extremely not-surprised to see greil marcus here, honestly
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 22:17 (three years ago) link
You know who actually lost his job and didn't sign this spineless piece of shit' statement? Salaita. But that's because him and anyone with any sense knows this is upper-class liberal hand-wringing because these idiots are afraid.
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 22:25 (three years ago) link
Forgive bad grammar, I just hate this so much I'm losing my cool. I also just shotgunned a Steel Reserve.
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 22:26 (three years ago) link
probably should’ve checked in to see who else was signing and adhered to the failsafe rule “Don’t put your name to anything that’s been co-signed by Bari Weiss”
― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 22:26 (three years ago) link
xp nice
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 7 July 2020 22:26 (three years ago) link
letter is vague enough that you could agree w it w/o knowing what it really means, esp if you’re not imbedded this in mind numbing discourse where every other word is some ingroup code & nothing actually means what it looks like it means on the surface. idk how many of these ppl that applies to, I’m not too generous
you sometimes get people folding actual censorship/harassment/violence by the powerful against vulnerable people into “cancel culture” which could make it look less of a non issue even tho 9/10 times it’s decried are when there’s mild pushback against this behaviour. there are good words for those other things which aren’t tied to a moral panic about celebrities and pop intellectuals not getting their arses kissed enough
― If you choose too long a name, your new display name will be truncated in (Left), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 22:30 (three years ago) link
I would quite possibly OTM it anyway but the way it's written, it's tbh too vague and chickenshit to say much.
― Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 00:28 (three years ago) link
How is this a free speech issue? Who is being silenced? Do these people think that other people exercising their own speech to tell them to fuck off means their freedom of speech is being taken away? Also, hasn't Harper's fired like multiple editors over the last couple of decades because their perspectives were too liberal? how is that not "being cancelled"?
― Dan I., Wednesday, 8 July 2020 01:13 (three years ago) link
Lithwick is the only person on that list that I'm surprised at and disappointed in.
I don’t really care what this letter says, I’m just putting it in the pile with the rest of the anti-trans bullshit that Harper’s has peddled.
― all cats are beautiful (silby), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 01:27 (three years ago) link
wtf happened to Harper's, I had a subscription ~15 years ago and always enjoyed it
― Dan I., Wednesday, 8 July 2020 01:32 (three years ago) link
I think the people who organize stuff like this have never heard of Matt Taibbi
xp or Salaita
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 01:35 (three years ago) link
Lewis Lapham wrote like a small town Gore Vidal imitator.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 01:35 (three years ago) link
Someone on Twitter wrote 'give Chomsky TERF bangs' and I can't stop crying laughing
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 01:49 (three years ago) link
oh no
― all cats are beautiful (silby), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 01:50 (three years ago) link
I don't expect the average person to know who Salaita is, but that one of the most obvious recent examples of an academic losing their job over protected speech didn't sign on is evidence that these people are hand-wringing liberal fakes who deserve nothing but scorn
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 01:58 (three years ago) link
Not sure either tweet applies to, say, Kamel Daoud.― pomenitul, mardi 7 juillet 2020 17:04 (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink…or Khaled Khalifa. I think it's safe to assume that not everyone signed this open letter for the same reasons.xp― pomenitul, mardi 7 juillet 2020 17:08 (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
― pomenitul, mardi 7 juillet 2020 17:04 (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
― pomenitul, mardi 7 juillet 2020 17:08 (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
More privileged concern trolling from Salman Rushdie. Learn to take some feedback!
― Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 02:07 (three years ago) link