Anime for people who hate anime

the alien spaceship design is dazzling, just these overgrown organic horrors floating through space. feels really influenced by anno’s time working with miyazaki (which, incidentally, the main character has a nausicaa poster in her room)

maybe i should finally watch all of nadia after this

gunbuster overall feels like a picture of anno before he realized how depressed he was, or a version of eva that’s not so psychedelically fucked up and is instead pared down to pure emotion

Brad I am LIVING for your Gunbuster rewatch. Plz lmk if you watch Diebuster and if it’s any good.

“Gunbustaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa”

diebuster is good in a 'solid sequel that lives in the shadow of the original' sort of way iirc

at first i was like "diebuster isn't directed by anno? no thanks" but it's kazuya tsurumaki of flcl so i'll prob watch it

did anyone watch those flcl sequels, are they any good

i haven't bc no one seemed to like them. they're not even made by ex-gainax folks for the most part afaik so its a sequel in name only

I was going to post various articles on various threads but screw it, just skim the first few pages of this blog for anything that catches your interest. Includes some podcast discussion of Gunbuster and Diebuster.
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I've been reading Jonathan Clements' articles since last summer when I discovered his entries on china and japan on the Science Fiction Encyclopedia but he's a general historian of Japan, China, Finland; he writes 2000AD novels; he writes lots about anime, he translates and does voice acting; probably does a bunch of other things I've forgotten.
I tore my hair out at some of the copyright/translation and secondhand market practices of japan and there's lot of good stuff to scroll through. Old Finnish films.

Y’all I’m trying to watch JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure and its... not great. I know everyone says the first few arcs are meh and Stardust Crusaders is where it’s at, but the specific things I dislike about this (the colors, the way its animated so something’s always moving or trembling, the nonstop mindless action) make me think the rest of it isn’t going to be THAT much better. What should I do?

I had the same problem so I quit

it's not good imo

Read the manga (Araki draws waaaaaaaaaay better than any of the anime visuals) or play the 2d fighting game.

the flcl sequels were bad and had no reason to exist

as far as jojo goes, stardust crusaders is still pretty mediocre for the most part, it's mostly just villain of the week stuff without anything more interesting happening. my rec is just try diamond is unbreakable if you are desperate to see how good jojo can be, it's certainly the best of the parts that have been adapted so far, but if you hate the weird colours that never changes. you don't really need to have watched the previous parts to understand anything, there's a few characters who reappear (one who's a main character) but that's it. starting with stardust crusaders the action certainly gets less mindless and more about creative & ridiculous applications of weird goofy superpowers but again this gets more interesting as it goes along & diamond is unbreakable is a lot better in that regard and has more fun characters and a goofy slice-of-life vibe to it.

like the first three parts bored me to death but i loved diamond is unbreakable, and stone ocean and steel ball run (parts 6 and 7, not yet adapted) are fantastic too

I missed the discussion of food wars. I’d read the manga (or at least the bits I could find to read for free) so I kind of knew what to expect but the objectification really is too much. The jiggly squelchy noises really are too much. I guess you could say, given the orgasmic delight effects men and women and the odd naked male arse, that it’s equal opportunity objectification, but know this is aimed at teenage boys and it’s just too sexist.

Which is a shame because the setup and the food bits are good and I like that soma can whip up decisions dishes from whatever is laying around.

I’ve been watching Oishinbo on Hulu japan which is also about food although less about cooking than celebrating japanese food culture (which the authors thought was under threat when the series started in the 80s). There’s also a father and son dynamic, they often battle over who can provide the best dish.

omg Oishinbo sounds so charming and up my alley, I need to track this down

I just started Patlabor, less out of desire and more as a homework assignment cuz I wanna familiarize myself w mecha anime tropes. It’s not bad but, as one would predict, fairly straightforward.

I think I’m gonna start either Texhnolyze, Baccano!, or Tatami Galaxy as well so I have something weirder to watch

I’m sad that like... now that I’ve finished Evangelion, Paranoia Agent, Serial Experiments Lain, FLCL, Utena, Madoka Magica... like what is even left in that realm??

I wanna familiarize myself w mecha anime tropes

have you watched mobile suit gundam? that's where it all begins plus it has the greatest theme song of all time
its sequel series zeta is even better

like what is even left in that realm??

apparently ergo proxy is supposed to be but i got bored half way through

Xp no bcz I tend to avoid stuff that’s longer than like 25-30 episodes, I like my anime to have a narrative arc and not just kinda meander forever

whats the commonality supposed to be in that list? just classic anime?

while i wouldn't say that they don't meander, the first 3 series (+ movie) of MSG together form a pretty well defined story arc. maybe try the "war in the pocket" ova to see if you catch the bug

have you watched mobile suit gundam? that's where it all begins

― diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Monday, July 6, 2020 11:00 PM

Does Mazinger Z not introduce any tropes apart from the big robot itself?

oh man, i completely forgot about war in the pocket

whats the commonality supposed to be in that list? just classic anime?

I guess you could even say anime for ppl who hate anime?

hmm ok

well Tatami Galaxy fits that, Baccano i don't think i would call cerebral but it still owns

maybe try Dennou Coil, that's one of my favs

i probably shouldn't be posting in this thread though since i love anime

Haibane Renmei perhaps? made by Lain peeps, similarish vintage

xp lol is there even a "main" anime thread?? I thought the same thing, my tastes and interests are specific but I too love anime! But when I looked up other anime threads they all had like <50 posts and hadn't been touched in years, and it'd be incredibly on-brand for a thread like like this to be "the one" on ILX lmao

If I liked Castlevania and LOVED Dorohedoro, what else is like that on Netflix UK right now? There's loads of stuff, obvs, but a lot of it looks like it could be daft or just for schoolkids and teens?

there's a hidden I Love Anime board that unlocks once you've watched every episode of lucky star

Afraid what will happen if I finally open a Cartoon Network thread

If I liked Castlevania and LOVED Dorohedoro, what else is like that on Netflix UK right now?

i don't know what is on Netflix UK but try Kakegurui which is by the Dorohedoro guy and is similarly batshit insane

thats a little misleading imo, its the same director but the source mangas are thoroughly unrelated

misleading???

oh i just meant when i see 'the dorohedoro guy' i would assume it to mean the original creator and not the director of the anime adaptation

also fwiw this is the other anime thread i'm aware of but no one uses it really

Anime S/D (COD hahahaha d'oh)

I keep seeing Azumanga Daioh mentioned (incl in that thread), can anyone recommend it? I've seen it namechecked along side Polar Bear Cafe which is one of my v v v favorites

i don't think those two are much alike

azumanga's a pretty influential series that set the template for the many 'high school girls do whatever' sketch comedy anime that are adapted from 4-panel comic strip manga. it still holds up fine but there's plenty of other ones since that are funnier imo, like i'd easily recommend Nichijou over it

ahhhh okay yeah someone I trust has already strongly recommended Nichijou and I have that queued up. For me, the charm of Polar Bear Cafe is how humdrum it is, it is almost entirely devoid of romance and high school stuff, the two things most Slice of Life animes seem to be centered around to varying degrees. Basically any Slice of Life anime that has nothing to do with love or school (see also: Skull-Faced Bookseller Honda San, which is completely different in regard to like tone and pacing but has a similar "here's a fun depiction of something completely ordinary")

second the recommendation for Tatami Galaxy, just visually stunning and short enough to watch in a few days

i'm glad you liked honda san!

have you seen pop team epic yet?

Yes! I've gotten a few episodes in, I enjoy it from time to time but I'm not totally hooked, at times it's SO frenetic and breakneck that the jokes don't really land

omg Oishinbo sounds so charming and up my alley, I need to track this down

― vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 4:27 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

There are collection of some of the manga translated into English. The Sushi one is super interesting because a lot of it focuses on all the terrible parasites you can ingest if you don’t prepare it right. The sake one has some views that are a little dated but is very educational, especially about the sake industry as it was in the 80s but maybe this is only of interest to a sake geek.

It’s interesting, not least because it comes from a place of deep unease about Japanese culture, especially food culture, being subsumed by and excitement about new and exciting western things. A lot of the episodes revolve around a Japanese obsessive about something western being introduced to a Japanese equivalent that is as good or better.

One of the early episodes of the anime has a contest between foie gras and simmered monkfish liver and a bunch of gourmets are astounded that japan has something so good. (Having eaten monkfish liver in japan I am a little skeptical)

Is this also the manga thread for people who don’t really like manga (comics, graphic novels etc.), because I have a lot of manga for someone who does really like manga?

if there's one thing manga and anime has taught me is that all Japanese food is oishii and woe betide anyone who suggests otherwise (apart from that one girl who for some reason can only make a purple mess of death)