US Politics: July 2020 - "Denigrating this Luxury Avenue"

this is the good quote, don't bother with the rest

Sorry, but you're overlooking "He said he was going to, quote unquote, drain the swamp, and all he’s done is splashed around and rolled around in it"

Right, the "yeah, he could probably tone it down on Twitter, but that doesn't change my support" set is prevalent there.

1. Yes he's coarse and crude but he's doing what I want in government.

2. Yes he's sometimes overly thin-skinned but he's way better than Clinton (or Biden or any D alternative).

3. Yes, I wish he wasn't so childish on Twitter, but judges, economy, strong on immigration, etc.

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Sorry, but you're overlooking "He said he was going to, quote unquote, drain the swamp, and all he’s done is splashed around and rolled around in it"

― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, July 1, 2020 5:26 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

that sounds like something hilary's team would workshop for a week and then schedule to tweet at 9am on a monday morning

Sorry, I cannot read a piece about Republican voters that was not reported from a folksy rural diner.

Thank you to those who read that. I saw it and was like 'do I truly care what a bunch of racist assholes who pretend they're not really think about anything?'

I'm not quite ready to relax my crack

true thread title imo

keep healthcare in the news

By my count, @cprwarner asked Senator Gardner six times whether he supports the Trump administration's attempts to dismantle the Affordable Care Act and Gardner never answered. #cosen #copolitics

A transcript: pic.twitter.com/1b4bElEcvh

— Justin Wingerter (@JustinWingerter) July 1, 2020

It's real. https://t.co/Fhnw0o2iT4

— Bad Fox Graphics (@BadFoxGraphics) July 1, 2020

im out yall

https://newrepublic.com/article/158344/viral-impotency-lincoln-project

if Trump wins again, then truly nothing means anything anymore when it comes to campaigning. as awful as previous presidents like Dubya were, they at least PRETENDED that they were trying to win the votes of most Americans. almost every single thing Trump does and says scans like an attempt to cater to absolutely no one except the group of people who would already walk through fire for his dumb ass. as far as I know your vote doesn't count double if you orgasm while casting it, but it certainly seems like that's what he's aiming to elicit from his cultists.

Online donors poured a record $392 million into campaigns and causes via ActBlue in June, a sign of surging activism and political enthusiasm on the left that smashed the previous monthly high, from just before the 2018 election, by a whopping 50 percent.

The eye-popping numbers on ActBlue, the favored digital fundraising platform for the Democratic Party as well as a growing host of left-leaning nonprofits, make for a startling split-screen next to Great Depression-level unemployment and spiking coronavirus cases across the country.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/01/actblue-june-protests-coronavirus-347492

86 percent of the president’s 2016 voters are committed to voting for him again. (Six percent say there is “not really any chance” of them casting another ballot for the president, while 8 percent have said that they no longer support the president but are not sure if they will vote for him again.)

In other words, Trump is going to lose. He can't afford to shed a single voter.

I think he’s going to lose but that’s not true.

Certainly isn't what you want the electorate to think before the vote happens. Great way to create wpathy about turn out if so. Want people to actually engage in voting not think it's already won.

it's 12:42 am, chicago time, united states, 2020

it is finally time to ask the question:

what has the republican party gotten right since 1980 that the democrats didn't?

what did they take a position on that now seems to be good a decision. give them some credit. what did they do right?

it is 12:45 AM

Democrats and their base are interested in principles. Republicans and their base are focused on power, and thus are better able to retain it without principles getting in the way of what they need to do.

oh sorry I read your post as meaning "why do they have more power than their support base would seem able to give them" not "when did they make a principled stand", the answer to which is never, unless the appearance of principle added to their power base.

surely there must have been at least one time

I tell you what, googling "good decisions made by Republicans" is pretty hilarious

This Sartre quote is apt:

Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past

From https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/07/isnt-hillary-clintons-polling/613690/">the Atlantic:

Which scenario is more likely: that Biden will blurt out something in the next few months that alienates women voters whose support he needs, or that Trump will express support for white supremacists that alienates almost everyone? That the economy suddenly kicks into high gear after a few months, or that millions of people remain unemployed? That America gets the coronavirus under control, or that new outbreaks tear through state after state? The escalating number of infections and hospitalizations, as The Atlantic’s Ronald Brownstein recently pointed out, is wreaking havoc in the very suburban counties of Arizona, Georgia, Florida, and Texas that Trump needs to carry.

Even before the pandemic, the American political landscape had changed dramatically since Trump’s election, and not in ways that favor the incumbent. Biden’s big poll lead should not make Democrats complacent, but neither should members of my party shake their heads and think, Here it comes again. Rather, the current polls should persuade Democrats to work for the greatest possible rejection of a widely distrusted U.S. president and the political party that enables him.

From https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/07/isnt-hillary-clintons-polling/613690">the Atlantic:

Which scenario is more likely: that Biden will blurt out something in the next few months that alienates women voters whose support he needs, or that Trump will express support for white supremacists that alienates almost everyone? That the economy suddenly kicks into high gear after a few months, or that millions of people remain unemployed? That America gets the coronavirus under control, or that new outbreaks tear through state after state? The escalating number of infections and hospitalizations, as The Atlantic’s Ronald Brownstein recently pointed out, is wreaking havoc in the very suburban counties of Arizona, Georgia, Florida, and Texas that Trump needs to carry.

Even before the pandemic, the American political landscape had changed dramatically since Trump’s election, and not in ways that favor the incumbent. Biden’s big poll lead should not make Democrats complacent, but neither should members of my party shake their heads and think, Here it comes again. Rather, the current polls should persuade Democrats to work for the greatest possible rejection of a widely distrusted U.S. president and the political party that enables him.

Broadly agree but “almost everyone” is doing a lot of work in that first sentence considering Trump already has expressed support for white supremacists many times.

He's not even trying to hide it:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eb4NNZGUEAEKLXx?format=jpg&name=medium

An amusing aside from this Reuters piece:

Trump's falling poll numbers worry some fellow Republicans they will lose control of the U.S. Senate, having already lost leadership of the House of Representatives in 2018.

The source said perhaps as soon as August, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell may have to advise Republican Senate candidates to distance themselves from Trump if needed to win election and keep their majority.

McConnell's office did not respond to a request for comment.

It would be incredible to see Asshole spend the last few weeks/months of his "campaign" raging at Republicans on twitter.

So another job for Kushner, aka the Dauphin.

Some areas that were very hard hit are now doing very well, some were doing very well and we thought they may be gone but they flare up and we're putting out the fires, but other places were long before us, and they're now...it's like life, it's got a life, and we're putting out that life 'cause that's a bad life that we're talking about.

Like maybe someone smarter than me can confirm, but these super great and historic jobs numbers...they're like if someone chopped all of my limbs off and then I came across a wayward arm and had someone sew it on my flailing torso and then trumpeted the unprecedented rise in the number of new limbs I have, no one in history has ever seen me acquire so many new limbs in such a short time, it's really something else.

he current polls should persuade Democrats to work for the greatest possible rejection of a widely distrusted U.S. president and the political party that enables him.

yes, this. he's going to say it was all rigged, either way. might as well put him on the defensive so he has to say "i didn't lose by the widest margin in american history! it's fake!"

Politico headline I had to read twice:

Donald Tusk: ‘I pray for Joe Biden’s success’

sorry, what is he not trying to hide with the baseball?

88 = HH

"heil hitler"

maybe he's a Dodgers fan

there are other items in the store that end in 8, such as $38, or $78, so it's possible it's just a coincidence (though what an insane price for a baseball), but naturally, context matters, and his constantly not wanting to condemn White Supremacists while having other invocations of "88" having previously appeared in his campaign, yeaaaaaaaa....

ah ha, I completely missed it, was looking at the baseball and trying to understand how that color was 'navy' when it just looked like muddy murky grey to me.

i've never been into the 88 thing just because he loudly and overtly proclaims his white supremacy in a million other ways

*looks beyond hitler's nazi armpatch, heil hitler salute, and ongoing speech to the nazi masses gathered to watch him*

"...wait is hitler selling commemorative socks for 88 reichspfennig?"

it's probably members of his own team that either

a) ARE white supremacists, and taking an opportunity to show this off or
b) assholes who are trolling, but to be honest, i see no distinction between b and a at this point

I've mentioned this before but after that "14 out of every 88 immigrants" press release I have no doubt they're doing this shit on purpose, for the same reason they do the "OK sign" thing, it's just a game that generates a ton of 'oh NUMBERS are racist now!?' fake outrage

Yeah, Trump is not setting the price of anything on that website. But $88 exactly? It's pretty conspicuous, especially coming right on the heels of that America First shirt. I mean, the phrase America First itself is problematic. Throw in the logo, however much it might look like the Marines logo, and benefit of the doubt starts to carry more weight than it can handle.

At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if he said that Hitler had some great ideas.

i mean there's no way to prove this so this is dumb, but can there be any doubt that if the nazis were running across europe right now, trump would be sending them missiles and trying to join the axis powers? empire, power, fear, strength, lies, propaganda, white supremacy! these are trump's people!

https://i.imgur.com/n5hGJGL.jpg

it's probably members of his own team that either

a) ARE white supremacists, and taking an opportunity to show this off or
b) assholes who are trolling, but to be honest, i see no distinction between b and a at this point

― I hear that sometimes Satan wants to defund police (Neanderthal), Thursday, July 2, 2020 10:41 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

Yes, a trolling online cosplay Nazi is a fuckin Nazi, period, leave us not equivocate.

if you’re a woman supporting trump, i feel bad for you. you must really hate yourself. lots of internalized misogyny... yikes

— CLAUDIA CONWAY (@claudiamconwayy) July 2, 2020

"The August 2020 US Politics Thread is highly thought of, but nobody likes me. It can only be my personality. That's all."

So many good options, sorry Morbs.