Words, usages, and phrases that annoy the shit out of you...

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"The 27 Club"

mirostones, Tuesday, 30 June 2020 13:10 (three years ago) link

"Whack a mole". Not entirely because of Boris Johnson, only 99% because of Boris Johnson.

Future England Captain (Tom D.), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 13:51 (three years ago) link

'straight-sized' people/bodies/clothing

panburger partner (unregistered), Thursday, 2 July 2020 11:53 (three years ago) link

'theatre makers'

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 16:09 (three years ago) link

prefer "dreamers of dreams"

avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 16:12 (three years ago) link

Prefer "server"

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 16:22 (three years ago) link

read the room

Mordy, Thursday, 16 July 2020 16:06 (three years ago) link

yeah. aiui, 'read the room' originated among stand-up comedians whose sole interest in reading the room was to figure out how to entertain that night's audience and elicit laughs. it implicitly describes a relationship where roles are very divergent and highly imbalanced, where the person speaking must supplicate their audience for a favorable response.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Thursday, 16 July 2020 17:25 (three years ago) link

I've definitely heard it used at work where "Don't rock the boat" would have been the phrase better suited to the somewhat cowardly message.

Alba, Thursday, 16 July 2020 18:52 (three years ago) link

i thought it was more of a courtesy / social self-preservation thing. like if your partner's boss invites you over for a cocktail party you should probably read the room before broaching certain topics / making certain jokes.

budo jeru, Thursday, 16 July 2020 18:55 (three years ago) link

"read the room" makes sense for anyone who is addressing a room -- a teacher, a public speaker, a person leading a meeting
it's a useful phrase and does not belong to comedians

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 16 July 2020 19:11 (three years ago) link

I spoke of the origin of the phrase, not its present usage, which can mean altering your manner or tone to better suit the makeup of your audience (e.g. third graders vs. parents of third graders), but it seems to be morphing into a demand to alter the substance of what you are saying or to stop speaking altogether based solely on whether people approve of it.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Thursday, 16 July 2020 19:21 (three years ago) link

citation needed

Temporary Erogenous Zone (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 16 July 2020 19:24 (three years ago) link

i prefer "know your audience"

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 16 July 2020 19:24 (three years ago) link

"Don't grow a pair"

Alba, Thursday, 16 July 2020 19:30 (three years ago) link

From ilx:

in other "failing to read the room" news:

(headline:) Nancy Pelosi Not On Board With Impeaching Brett Kavanaugh “That would not be my plan.”

― sleeve, Tuesday, October 2, 2018 1:34 PM (one year ago)

where Pelosi said what she meant to say, clearly and understandably, but the substance failed to meet sleeve's approval. sleeve expected his comment to be understood as a call from him for Pelosi to think and say the opposite.

this seems adequate to establish that the useage exists.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Thursday, 16 July 2020 19:36 (three years ago) link

no

budo jeru, Thursday, 16 July 2020 19:42 (three years ago) link

i'm pretty sure what sleeve means is that pelosi, in her capacity as (a) leader of the democratic party, had failed to take in to account the overwhelming sentiment that going after kavanaugh was the preferred move, that she was out of touch with the thinking of most democrats and was therefore failing to use her role as speaker to express this, hence a failure to read the room, which to me sounds like a perfectly okay use of the expression ?

budo jeru, Thursday, 16 July 2020 20:34 (three years ago) link

iow, he thought Pelosi, by reading the room, would have concluded the room wanted something other than her considered conclusion about the best way to proceed. she was not out of touch with who her audience was, but out of touch with their desired response from her. sounds like what I said.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Thursday, 16 July 2020 20:52 (three years ago) link

what you said is that her statement didn't specifically meet one individual's approval !

budo jeru, Thursday, 16 July 2020 20:59 (three years ago) link

she was not out of touch with who her audience was, but out of touch with their desired response from her.

so she didn't fail to read the room, she actually read the room really well and then proceeded to say something that upset the majority of the people in the room ? what is the distinction you're trying to make ? how can you be in touch with your audience if you don't know what your audience wants from you ?

budo jeru, Thursday, 16 July 2020 21:08 (three years ago) link

Be Morton Downey Jr?

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Thursday, 16 July 2020 23:08 (three years ago) link

how can you be in touch with your audience if you don't know what your audience wants from you ?

if you read carefully, I did not say she did not know what her audience wanted from her. I'm pretty sure she knew what would have pleased a fair number of them (viz. all those who thought as sleeve did), but she was not willing to give it to them.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Thursday, 16 July 2020 23:41 (three years ago) link

This is a good ILX argument.

Alba, Friday, 17 July 2020 00:07 (three years ago) link

But a weird thread for it to be in

the word "restaurateur" doesn't have an n in it (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 17 July 2020 00:48 (three years ago) link

Yeah, like, read the room guys

jmm, Friday, 17 July 2020 01:30 (three years ago) link

it will be cool to go through these threads after quarantine has made everyone finally, fully insane and be able to trace its progress

singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 17 July 2020 03:38 (three years ago) link

“during this time”

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 17 July 2020 17:02 (three years ago) link

overuse of referring to people as 'individuals'

mookieproof, Friday, 17 July 2020 19:37 (three years ago) link

dividuals

pomenitul, Friday, 17 July 2020 19:49 (three years ago) link

Makes me think of awkward police officers making stilted appeals for information.

The Fields o' Fat Henry (Tom D.), Friday, 17 July 2020 19:53 (three years ago) link

"individual" sounds like police speak to me too

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 17 July 2020 20:08 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

"the wife" -- i know a couple of good people that use this, but i hate it!

Thicc Nhat Wanh (rip van wanko), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 19:35 (three years ago) link

better half

ball and chain

trouble and strife

the missus

ugh

Willa Catheter (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 19:36 (three years ago) link

All awful. Likewise 'hubby'.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 19:38 (three years ago) link

“The wife” is “the worst”

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 21:16 (three years ago) link

Use her name or leave her out of it

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 21:17 (three years ago) link

I choose to believe it's shorthand for 'The Wife of Bath'.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 21:18 (three years ago) link

"ugh" is just plain rude

jmm, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 21:18 (three years ago) link

‘er indoors

mookieproof, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 21:25 (three years ago) link

... I was literally just going to post that.

Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 21:26 (three years ago) link

The Duchess of Fife

fetter, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 21:54 (three years ago) link

waifu

pomenitul, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 21:59 (three years ago) link

i would rather be called waifu than any of the above

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 22:05 (three years ago) link

I'd rather be a husbando than a hubby, so I see where you're coming from.

'Consort' is underrated.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 22:10 (three years ago) link

In Scotland, you hear 'man' used for husband, simple but effective.

Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 22:17 (three years ago) link

Is "a wife" better than "the wife"?

À la recherche du scamps perdu (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 22:19 (three years ago) link

I'm guessing "the little woman" won't meet with much approval here.

Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 22:21 (three years ago) link

In Scotland, you hear 'man' used for husband, simple but effective.

Same in Romanian (we also have a dish that's quite similar to haggis called 'drob').

pomenitul, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 22:22 (three years ago) link

"our lass" won't get any shrift either!

calzino, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 22:25 (three years ago) link


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