Citing excessive stop and search inflicted on black communities and failures in handling domestic violence cases, May said problems appeared to lie with a significant minority of officers rather than just "a few bad apples".She pledged to break the powerful federation, announcing an end to its automatic right to enrol police officers as its members, in effect curtailing the closed shop in policing .AdvertisementAs the home secretary took the stage she was greeted by polite applause, but when she left there was silence, as May warned that a string of scandals about corruption and the conduct of the federation itself risked destroying the bedrock of British policing, which is that officers exercise their powers through the consent of the public."If there is anybody in this hall who doubts that our model of policing is at risk, if there is anybody who underestimates the damage recent events and revelations have done to the relationship between the public and the police, if anybody here questions the need for the police to change, I am here to tell you that it's time to face up to reality," May said.
She pledged to break the powerful federation, announcing an end to its automatic right to enrol police officers as its members, in effect curtailing the closed shop in policing .
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As the home secretary took the stage she was greeted by polite applause, but when she left there was silence, as May warned that a string of scandals about corruption and the conduct of the federation itself risked destroying the bedrock of British policing, which is that officers exercise their powers through the consent of the public.
"If there is anybody in this hall who doubts that our model of policing is at risk, if there is anybody who underestimates the damage recent events and revelations have done to the relationship between the public and the police, if anybody here questions the need for the police to change, I am here to tell you that it's time to face up to reality," May said.
Imagine anyone doing this today.
― Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Monday, 29 June 2020 12:49 (three years ago) link
The net result of which is the former Met chief blaming her for a rise in knife crimes xp
― BRAVE THE AFRIAD (onimo), Monday, 29 June 2020 12:50 (three years ago) link
I mean presumably she was quite happy to have that all blamed on Sadiq Khan for her duration as PM?
― Matt DC, Monday, 29 June 2020 12:56 (three years ago) link
the UK gov: not sending your child to school is such a detriment to them we might fine you
also the UK gov: don't sweat about vaccines tho, wouldn't want them to catch the dyslexia
― i have no scampo and i must scream (Noodle Vague), Monday, 29 June 2020 13:05 (three years ago) link
Even given any number of other factors, frames, whatever -- seeing that clip of KS above on BLM really surprises me.
I'm surprised he makes such a big deal about his love of the police, rather than talking politely about the need for reform and accountability in the police so that they represent our diverse society. He could do that and be bland and inoffensive. But he doesn't bother. He just goes on, without prompting, to say how much he admires the police.
I'm surprised that he can call BLM a 'moment' - especially when the movement (I think that's the right word) is literally 7 years old. That's a long 'moment'. He seems to mean that it's a 'moment' of a month or so in which people like Harry Kane and himself 'take a knee', and then things move on.
Above all, I'm surprised that he can dismiss the BLM organization - not gently distancing himself from it, but briskly and totally. I very much imagine that the people who run this organization are ... black people, campaigning for the rights of black people. That is - the kind of people that KS and everyone else was falling over themselves trying to respect, about a fortnight ago.
You can't say all that stuff about respect and change and going down on one knee, then dismiss the words and beliefs of actual black activists who run the central organization (as far as I can see) in this movement in the UK. That doesn't make any sense. The second thing is very offensive within the terms set down by the first thing.
Maybe I should no longer surprised by anything KS says or does. The mask has certainly come off.
― the pinefox, Monday, 29 June 2020 13:14 (three years ago) link
BLM are being targeted (and misquoted) by ToriesCampaign Against Non-Tory Antisemitism on Twitter (tho not only the anti-left as the Sobel tweet upthread highlights). Starmer probably aware of that in his distancing from BLM.
― nashwan, Monday, 29 June 2020 13:25 (three years ago) link
Tbh I think I prefer Theresa May to Starmer, just on a personal level . She only took a decent position on Stop and Search because it conveniently sat with her slashing the fuck out of budgets all over the shop and her record as H S was pure evil, but still as awful as she is at least there was no chance of any dadflop bluster and wanking competitions.
― calzino, Monday, 29 June 2020 13:29 (three years ago) link
was more in favour of recruiting civilians to enact racist harrassment on behalf of the state, whole lot cheaper than getting the police to do it
― Boris the Spreader (NickB), Monday, 29 June 2020 13:32 (three years ago) link
theresa may is bad
― stet, Monday, 29 June 2020 13:33 (three years ago) link
"Tbh I think I prefer Theresa May to Starmer, just on a personal level"
I hope I get to live long enough to hate as purely as calzino does Sir Haircut
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 June 2020 13:34 (three years ago) link
I hate KS now.
I didn't use to.
But Calzino was right.
― the pinefox, Monday, 29 June 2020 13:36 (three years ago) link
Tories are meant to be bad, and now the UK electorate gets two for the price of one. That is worse than bad.
― calzino, Monday, 29 June 2020 13:39 (three years ago) link
Definitely feels like the gammon signalling has gone into overdrive this morning and I wonder if it's a burst of overconfidence at overtaking Johnson in the 'preference for PM' polls. The press ups thing was dumb but basically harmless but the BLM interview is just a disaster - he didn't need to say anything at all.
Pretty sure they're dutifully ticking off different voter groups and there are a lot of awful authoritarian shitheels in this country so it probably tells you more about the badness of Britain specifically.
― Matt DC, Monday, 29 June 2020 13:42 (three years ago) link
You love to see it
Byron to go into administration in bid to sell parts of burger chain https://t.co/5Cl08mQutK— The Guardian (@guardian) June 29, 2020
― scampos mentis (gyac), Monday, 29 June 2020 13:46 (three years ago) link
All those clueless melts that called Corbyn a populist maybe think populism is good now?
― calzino, Monday, 29 June 2020 13:46 (three years ago) link
"Tbh I think I prefer Theresa May to Starmer, just on a personal level"I hope I get to live long enough to hate as purely as calzino does Sir Haircut
― scampos mentis (gyac), Monday, 29 June 2020 13:47 (three years ago) link
needs a comma
― imago, Monday, 29 June 2020 13:50 (three years ago) link
User, imago is right here
― specific fry such as scampo (||||||||), Monday, 29 June 2020 13:52 (three years ago) link
been annoying me for ages but i finally figured out who starmer reminds me of
― Boris the Spreader (NickB), Monday, 29 June 2020 13:54 (three years ago) link
https://i.ibb.co/PhxngZb/starmergrout.jpg
looks like keith brownhttps://i.imgur.com/qOAxHi4.png
― specific fry such as scampo (||||||||), Monday, 29 June 2020 13:57 (three years ago) link
User imago is right here― scampos mentis (gyac), Monday, 29 June 2020 bookmarkflaglink
I only call him thrash twice a week at most. I know this is a failure on my part, must improve.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 June 2020 14:04 (three years ago) link
Meanwhile, NHS England appears to have reported single figure hospital deaths for the past two days? I know it's the weekend and the data will change but I don't think that's happened before even on a Monday. Not since early March at least.
― Matt DC, Monday, 29 June 2020 14:06 (three years ago) link
Hopefully only the first branch of the Home Office to be abolished. https://t.co/nTSxgvMycH— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) June 29, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 June 2020 14:12 (three years ago) link
defund the brioche
― nashwan, Monday, 29 June 2020 14:19 (three years ago) link
looks like keith brown🖼
― scampos mentis (gyac), Monday, 29 June 2020 14:45 (three years ago) link
Paranoid hallucinations plague many coronavirus patients in I.C.U.s, an experience that can slow recovery and increase risk of depression and cognitive issues. https://t.co/ugMkL5qkWK— Taylor Lorenz (@TaylorLorenz) June 29, 2020
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 29 June 2020 14:57 (three years ago) link
pretty upset to see Genial Harry Grout getting libelled on this thread
― i have no scampo and i must scream (Noodle Vague), Monday, 29 June 2020 14:57 (three years ago) link
As a public prosecutor, Sir Kier Starmer was a cop in an expensive suit. While black people are now incarcerated at the same rate as African Americans, the prison population in Britain has almost doubled since the 1980s. This has affected all working class people in Britain.— #BlackLivesMatterUK (@ukblm) June 29, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 June 2020 15:34 (three years ago) link
it is as much the Labour Party's problem as Starmzy's, and to a wider extent a public problem altho i'd argue it's a political party's job to lead not follow on stuff like this. i doubt there's any need for Starmz to triangulate on this issue, he's speaking his sincere beliefs.
― i have no scampo and i must scream (Noodle Vague), Monday, 29 June 2020 15:39 (three years ago) link
Tbh it's for BLM and orgs like it to twist the arm of politicians at local levels right up to national politics. And if Starmer/Labour will never argue for defund, then eventually people will enter politics that will. They may not have a Lab badge tho'.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 June 2020 15:47 (three years ago) link
I see the DWP are bringing back benefits sanctions, banks/building societies ending their no-charge to £500 overdrafts. That'll be nice for people in localised lockdowns who won't be afforded the luxury of staying in.
― calzino, Monday, 29 June 2020 16:36 (three years ago) link
is that good pic.twitter.com/PqNlUCVBQN— worm from home (@SzMarsupial) June 29, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 June 2020 16:55 (three years ago) link
Clowned by 2020 vintage Farage oh dear.
― Matt DC, Monday, 29 June 2020 16:57 (three years ago) link
got that neo-fash endorsement sewn up now, if he isn't 20 pts ahead next week questions will have to be asked!
― calzino, Monday, 29 June 2020 16:58 (three years ago) link
Eventually Labour will elect Tommy Robinson leader and still be just slightly behind in the pills
― plax (ico), Monday, 29 June 2020 17:02 (three years ago) link
Fuck.
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 29 June 2020 17:33 (three years ago) link
Farage has form for this sort of thing, I remember he was taking pains to praise Corbyn in 2017 for being a good Eurosceptic.
― Matt DC, Monday, 29 June 2020 17:46 (three years ago) link
Hasn't he got a plane to crash?
― Future England Captain (Tom D.), Monday, 29 June 2020 17:52 (three years ago) link
This is from a short piece I have co-authored with @carlheneghan & @oke_jason on apparent positive signs regarding hospitalised patients & patients in intensive care in England, Wales and NI (data for Scotland was not available in our sources). @AUHE_Leeds https://t.co/GWUtTPxoy2 https://t.co/AWTluW0Hdk— Daniel Howdon (@danielhowdon) June 29, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 June 2020 18:38 (three years ago) link
I've been wondering about this - what are they doing differently now, aside from the drug discovered the other week?
Be interesting to know how the patient profile has changed over time. I'd guess a lot of the oldest or most vulnerable people caught it earlier on and those that didn't have shielded since.
― Matt DC, Monday, 29 June 2020 19:55 (three years ago) link
it's hard to find the patient profile data – there's been a similar result in the US, though and speculation there is that it's younger people catching it (mainly because they're service workers rather than partiers) and correspondingly have better outcomes
― stet, Monday, 29 June 2020 19:57 (three years ago) link
The big stat in that report is the big decline in the use of ventilators for ICU patients. From around 90% in March to 30%~ now! The survival rate has risen from around 50% to 70% and I don’t know that’s unrelated. If the thing that really fucks you is the inflammation, and they can treat that more effectively with steroids, then less need to move people onto ventilators which in themselves are a very high risk treatment?And, unrelated:
I can’t believe we were led to believe a man who struggled with a floppy disc was competent https://t.co/pWSAONW7NA— Your Mum says Black Lives Matter (@judeinlondon2) June 29, 2020
― scampos mentis (gyac), Monday, 29 June 2020 20:39 (three years ago) link
xp on this point, it’s not the numbers that matter, it’s the rate for the age groups and the report says:
This does not appear to be an age composition effect, as shown by data below stratifying survival by age group for each of the earliest and latest groups of just under 3,000 patients to have survival reported. These data show that while older age groups face greater in-ICU mortality risk at both time points, appreciable and statistically significant increases in survival are observed for all groups below the age of 80.
― scampos mentis (gyac), Monday, 29 June 2020 20:46 (three years ago) link
thanks gyac that's v. interesting
― stet, Monday, 29 June 2020 20:53 (three years ago) link
wtf is going on in Leicester!
No offense to the city of Leicester which I'm sure is doing its best with the £4.60 and half a pack of mints that the government gave it to work with, but the shitness of our track and trace here seems stone-aged compared to Kerala.https://t.co/fhA0Wd6gIDhttps://t.co/fhA0Wd6gID— Phil McDuff (@Mc_Heckin_Duff) June 29, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 June 2020 20:56 (three years ago) link
xpsChrist, it isn't even a case of what went wrong, Starmer was clearly an arrogant incompetent boss-level wanker when he was young as well.
― calzino, Monday, 29 June 2020 21:00 (three years ago) link
Helen Steel and Dave Morris ran their McLibel office from a studio in the Gray’s Inn Buildings, a big short-life block of flats where I lived at the time (I don’t think they were sitting in that particular office in the clip). When I was doing the ‘serious’ features for Edgy Style Mag, I had to interview them for one such - I really liked Helen (and was appalled when it came out that she’d been seduced by an undercover cop) but Dave was one of those droning over-explainers you get in every single social justice setting. We’re talking about having to transcribe THREE FUCKING HOURS of Dave tapes.
― santa clause four (suzy), Monday, 29 June 2020 21:38 (three years ago) link
1) The weird body-twist Starmer does when he mentions as exculpatory evidence the many actions he's done with the police, as if his thank-you scrolls are sitting on a table behind him just out of shot.
2) The noted pivot (live and on air!) from BLM as movement to a moment reflecting on that one thing that happened is in tune with the great spirit in British Politics which I will never stop thinking of as "Is there anything to be said for another moment of silence?"
3) ... which leads me to the disquieting realisation (because I'm watching the clip on silent) that his true voice is Dermot Morgan.
In conclusion, fuck this clown.
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 30 June 2020 05:12 (three years ago) link
He has the voice of a muppet and I don't know if he can beat Boris record of 1 pushup either.
― anvil, Tuesday, 30 June 2020 05:58 (three years ago) link