Anime for people who hate anime

hah sorry I didn't know we were talking about kids anime but still.. incredible mind melting stuff

the manga art is really good and detailed in ways that can't be replicated in tv animation but they still did a great job with the setting/backgrounds and overall execution

that's re: dorohedoro i mean

I liked it but couldn’t figure out if the objectification of its women characters was so grotesque as to constitute a comment on the theme or really just unfortunate.

that’s how i feel about food wars

but everything else about it i find amazingly bonkers. my kids now both want to actually create dishes in real life that my wife and i are to judge. i really hope they don’t want us to cosplay.

thats really sweet :)

the last episode of gunbuster is a work of art

― diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Sunday, June 21, 2020 7:37 AM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink

it's only like 6 eps, right? I really should rewatch it. Or maybe just watch Diebuster. My understanding is that E1 of Gunbuster is a parody of, like, sports anime? but sadly the context is lost on me :(

― vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, June 21, 2020 10:46 AM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink

i’m rewatching gunbuster right now bc of this exchange! i’ve owned the dvds for at least a decade but somehow had only watched them once? i had forgotten almost everything about this incredible show, including all the proto-evangelion echoes (profound dedication to pseudoscientific babble, screwed up father figure who almost never takes off his sunglasses, arrogant german redhead who’s preternaturally good at piloting robots)

the alien spaceship design is dazzling, just these overgrown organic horrors floating through space. feels really influenced by anno’s time working with miyazaki (which, incidentally, the main character has a nausicaa poster in her room)

maybe i should finally watch all of nadia after this

gunbuster overall feels like a picture of anno before he realized how depressed he was, or a version of eva that’s not so psychedelically fucked up and is instead pared down to pure emotion

Brad I am LIVING for your Gunbuster rewatch. Plz lmk if you watch Diebuster and if it’s any good.

“Gunbustaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa”

diebuster is good in a 'solid sequel that lives in the shadow of the original' sort of way iirc

at first i was like "diebuster isn't directed by anno? no thanks" but it's kazuya tsurumaki of flcl so i'll prob watch it

did anyone watch those flcl sequels, are they any good

i haven't bc no one seemed to like them. they're not even made by ex-gainax folks for the most part afaik so its a sequel in name only

I was going to post various articles on various threads but screw it, just skim the first few pages of this blog for anything that catches your interest. Includes some podcast discussion of Gunbuster and Diebuster.
https://schoolgirlmilkycrisis.com/

I've been reading Jonathan Clements' articles since last summer when I discovered his entries on china and japan on the Science Fiction Encyclopedia but he's a general historian of Japan, China, Finland; he writes 2000AD novels; he writes lots about anime, he translates and does voice acting; probably does a bunch of other things I've forgotten.
I tore my hair out at some of the copyright/translation and secondhand market practices of japan and there's lot of good stuff to scroll through. Old Finnish films.

Y’all I’m trying to watch JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure and its... not great. I know everyone says the first few arcs are meh and Stardust Crusaders is where it’s at, but the specific things I dislike about this (the colors, the way its animated so something’s always moving or trembling, the nonstop mindless action) make me think the rest of it isn’t going to be THAT much better. What should I do?

I had the same problem so I quit

it's not good imo

Read the manga (Araki draws waaaaaaaaaay better than any of the anime visuals) or play the 2d fighting game.

the flcl sequels were bad and had no reason to exist

as far as jojo goes, stardust crusaders is still pretty mediocre for the most part, it's mostly just villain of the week stuff without anything more interesting happening. my rec is just try diamond is unbreakable if you are desperate to see how good jojo can be, it's certainly the best of the parts that have been adapted so far, but if you hate the weird colours that never changes. you don't really need to have watched the previous parts to understand anything, there's a few characters who reappear (one who's a main character) but that's it. starting with stardust crusaders the action certainly gets less mindless and more about creative & ridiculous applications of weird goofy superpowers but again this gets more interesting as it goes along & diamond is unbreakable is a lot better in that regard and has more fun characters and a goofy slice-of-life vibe to it.

like the first three parts bored me to death but i loved diamond is unbreakable, and stone ocean and steel ball run (parts 6 and 7, not yet adapted) are fantastic too

I missed the discussion of food wars. I’d read the manga (or at least the bits I could find to read for free) so I kind of knew what to expect but the objectification really is too much. The jiggly squelchy noises really are too much. I guess you could say, given the orgasmic delight effects men and women and the odd naked male arse, that it’s equal opportunity objectification, but know this is aimed at teenage boys and it’s just too sexist.

Which is a shame because the setup and the food bits are good and I like that soma can whip up decisions dishes from whatever is laying around.

I’ve been watching Oishinbo on Hulu japan which is also about food although less about cooking than celebrating japanese food culture (which the authors thought was under threat when the series started in the 80s). There’s also a father and son dynamic, they often battle over who can provide the best dish.

omg Oishinbo sounds so charming and up my alley, I need to track this down

I just started Patlabor, less out of desire and more as a homework assignment cuz I wanna familiarize myself w mecha anime tropes. It’s not bad but, as one would predict, fairly straightforward.

I think I’m gonna start either Texhnolyze, Baccano!, or Tatami Galaxy as well so I have something weirder to watch

I’m sad that like... now that I’ve finished Evangelion, Paranoia Agent, Serial Experiments Lain, FLCL, Utena, Madoka Magica... like what is even left in that realm??

I wanna familiarize myself w mecha anime tropes

have you watched mobile suit gundam? that's where it all begins plus it has the greatest theme song of all time
its sequel series zeta is even better

like what is even left in that realm??

apparently ergo proxy is supposed to be but i got bored half way through

Xp no bcz I tend to avoid stuff that’s longer than like 25-30 episodes, I like my anime to have a narrative arc and not just kinda meander forever

whats the commonality supposed to be in that list? just classic anime?

while i wouldn't say that they don't meander, the first 3 series (+ movie) of MSG together form a pretty well defined story arc. maybe try the "war in the pocket" ova to see if you catch the bug

have you watched mobile suit gundam? that's where it all begins

― diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Monday, July 6, 2020 11:00 PM

Does Mazinger Z not introduce any tropes apart from the big robot itself?

oh man, i completely forgot about war in the pocket

whats the commonality supposed to be in that list? just classic anime?

I guess you could even say anime for ppl who hate anime?

hmm ok

well Tatami Galaxy fits that, Baccano i don't think i would call cerebral but it still owns

maybe try Dennou Coil, that's one of my favs

i probably shouldn't be posting in this thread though since i love anime

Haibane Renmei perhaps? made by Lain peeps, similarish vintage

xp lol is there even a "main" anime thread?? I thought the same thing, my tastes and interests are specific but I too love anime! But when I looked up other anime threads they all had like <50 posts and hadn't been touched in years, and it'd be incredibly on-brand for a thread like like this to be "the one" on ILX lmao

If I liked Castlevania and LOVED Dorohedoro, what else is like that on Netflix UK right now? There's loads of stuff, obvs, but a lot of it looks like it could be daft or just for schoolkids and teens?

there's a hidden I Love Anime board that unlocks once you've watched every episode of lucky star

Afraid what will happen if I finally open a Cartoon Network thread

If I liked Castlevania and LOVED Dorohedoro, what else is like that on Netflix UK right now?

i don't know what is on Netflix UK but try Kakegurui which is by the Dorohedoro guy and is similarly batshit insane

thats a little misleading imo, its the same director but the source mangas are thoroughly unrelated

misleading???

oh i just meant when i see 'the dorohedoro guy' i would assume it to mean the original creator and not the director of the anime adaptation

also fwiw this is the other anime thread i'm aware of but no one uses it really

Anime S/D (COD hahahaha d'oh)

I keep seeing Azumanga Daioh mentioned (incl in that thread), can anyone recommend it? I've seen it namechecked along side Polar Bear Cafe which is one of my v v v favorites