love* in the time of plague (and by love* i mean brexit* and other dreary matters of uk politics)

I had been assuming that Left was a longstanding ILX poster using a sockpuppet but even with mod powers haven't been able to work out who. (Although I have a suspicion).

gabb nebb

Left is my sock, along with bizarro gazzaro and others. There’s a cunning dn code for the sock accounts run by me, Left is the original though so doesn’t have one.

did wonder why the bizarro gazzaro account was so bad. makes sense now

Yeah I save my worst content for that one.

Providing a place to rant/vent is an essential function of this thread but 'wake up sheeple your hero is a fraud' lines of argument have always recieved the treatment they deserve on ILX and long may it continue.

lack of a hero is making everyone a little unsteady tbh

Alright Bonnie Tyler.

Yeah I save my worst content for that one.

*does IP lookup* the ShariVari one is pretty good though.

That’s why I post less on that one tbf.

I decided I rate left when a bunch of posters jumped on them for going off on a despicable revive of a thread called “Slaves?”

& they were otm and the rude way they expressed themselves was also otm in this instance so you couldn’t even use the tone policing argument

& I thought it would maybe serve a useful function to get ppl to tell on themselves in this way

Not really speaking of their recent posts itt which I haven’t read but endorse

I too stand with user Left except on the mariah carey thread where their posts are getting flagged

Left is kind of like if morbs was wordier and a libcom, but with less panache than the good doctor.

Here we go.

Local Lockdown for Leicester on the cards as schools have had to close & hundreds have become infected.

We warned Keir Starmer & Boris Johnson that this would happen. They didn’t listen. https://t.co/xUXPvBdF1B

— Howard Beckett (@BeckettUnite) June 27, 2020

people in Leicester just need to show some guts imo

lmao at starmzy being lumped in with the actual govt there - good work keir

Leicester Conservatives deputy chairman Rhys Brown said: "The council's mixed messaging has caused the city centre and parks around Leicester to be full this afternoon.

"Due to these Labour officials we now face the threat of being the only city to be pushed back into lockdown."

these councillors (of all parties) are such a bunch of wankers, but that is pretty rich!

if it’s any consolation, rhys, you won’t be the only city being pushed back into lockdown for long

Good thing those pesky teachers’ unions have lost their ally in the shadow cabinet

Solidarity with all those who protested and demanded #JusticeforShukriAbdi today 💙

Shukri was racistly bullied and tragically died at just 12 years old. The police's pitiful response exposed their terrible racism.

Say her name: Shukri Abdi#BlackLivesMatterUK https://t.co/B4AVhbIhNE

— London Renters Union (@LDNRentersUnion) June 27, 2020

Protests like this and organised strikes by teachers are the way forward. The 30 or so Left lab MPs need to show solidarity, but apart from that there is nothing to be expected from Lab.

“Such a blatant abuse of international law must have consequences” says @lisanandy 👏 https://t.co/O0V40mat5l

— Liam Young (@liamyoung) June 27, 2020

I decided I rate left when a bunch of posters jumped on them for going off on a despicable revive of a thread called “Slaves?”

& they were otm and the rude way they expressed themselves was also otm in this instance so you couldn’t even use the tone policing argument

& I thought it would maybe serve a useful function to get ppl to tell on themselves in this way

Not really speaking of their recent posts itt which I haven’t read but endorse

It’s a good day to be a recently ousted shadow education secretary being slammed by her snakey ex colleagues for *checks notes* siding with the teachers unions.

The Labour right have always been a bunch of complete cunts going way back, but this post-Blair intake are the most vacuous, amoral clique in Labour history, in their minds they just play for a different club. Unions? They caused the winter of discontent.

EXC: Angela Rayner, Keir Starmer's deputy, vented about hard left "Trots" to Labour official

Last year she told Patrick Heneghan: "I've said it from the start it will be the trots that do Corbyn in.They are not interested in a Labour government"

WhatsApp in complaint to HQ 1/2 pic.twitter.com/ujskHMMICw

— Gabriel Pogrund (@Gabriel_Pogrund) June 27, 2020

have these people ever met a trot since their uni days

idgi does she think RLB is "a trot"?

maybe just behind her back

even when I was dumb enough to think Rayner was potentially a force for good I knew she talked absolute clueless garbage about the Blair era, but I let it pass!

God I wish there was actual Trots in the PLP

Again, this probably is Starmer and his backers moving against Rayner (presumably too close to union bureaucracy), but is also proof that she is a crapweasel too in her own way

— Rosewood Shoehorn (@apiarism) June 27, 2020

The second message she goes on to say “there are people obsessed with destroying Corbyn”

I keep mentally mixing up Rayner and Nandy which is probably not a good sign for Rayner

during Corbyn's leadership she did ok and I can't remember her being part of the sabotage squad, but it became very clear during the leadership election she had lots of friends on the right of the party, and opinions she kept to herself previously!

In the old days the Sunday papers only used to spoil your Sunday. In the digital world they aim to spoil your Saturday evening too.

— The Justin Horton Show (@ejhchess) June 27, 2020

How many different ways can you spell "conservative"? https://t.co/eRSNmINE14 pic.twitter.com/vAmoQD6MRl

— SW Carver (@invisibleste) June 27, 2020

From the context of the conversation, it looks like she’s frustrated with people on the left encouraging the party to split (so not RLB, Corbyn, etc) and with right-wing MPs trying to take Corbyn down. idk if it tells us anything about her we didn’t already know.

Wtf does it mean to be pro-family? Does she go round coupling up random strangers or is it just a codeword for "frothing homophobe"?

Starmer's choice of pro-brexit tory arsehole policy guru sounds like he's shifted a bit to the right from his fence in the middle of this culture war.

Tbf you don't need to be pro-Brexit just don't be a FBPEep in the face of the inevitable

The bad cropping on those messages (they’re talking about the TiG splitters), also tells us the splitters weren’t liked either lol

Starmer's controls on immigration mug is no mug!

BTW I'm not especially well-informed, but I know Rayner *reportedly* said to RLB at the time of the 2015 leadership election "why are you supporting that IRA twat?", so I'm sure that's common knowledge. Not sure what extra work this is supposed to do.

— Daniel Finn (@DanFinn95) June 27, 2020

Everyone should want schools to open in September if it's safe, and if isn't safe by then reopening then will be unpopular, and the public will be raging with the government whatever. So a lot of the public will agree with the teachers in any case and so will Labour if they're smart. Framing it as "Labour in the pocket of The Blob" isn't really going to play. Also it only takes one photogenic teacher to die of the rona and the government has a massive media scandal on its hands.

― Matt DC, Saturday, 27 June 2020 16:42 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

i was chatting w/ some pals that i used to work with in a school for ASD kids (all teachers). they have no ppe (and have been told its unnecessary, they are routinely bitten or spat at by children), there are no additional cleaning measures, when children come in with temperatures they have to stay school for the day with no provision (or staff) for keeping them separate, staff who realise while at work that they are showing symptoms are 'encouraged' to stay in for the rest of the day and when the same staff have subsequently tested positive for covid the children in their class have moved into other classes rather than needing to stay home, they are not allowed to enter the headteacher's offices and the headteachers never venture out among the other children, they come to school but can only be reached over the phone.

This school has a student population that is at least 90% BAME and the families are overwhelmingly very poor and living in multi-generational housing setups. Although they've taken back a large proportion of the kids the school has been technically closed as they have not had full numbers. from tomorrow they will. I suspect that the effect of what sounds to me to be incredibly irresponsible practices (with focus on ofsted approval at the forefront of thinking) will have effects in the local community that are unlikely to be discontinued by track and trace. i'm sure there are many, many schools and other workplaces acting as garrulously. the management of so many schools are careerist vandals with little regard for the children in their care but i doubt the damage they cause will be visible and the young teachers working there will get sick but be fine ultimately, its the outward ripple that's likely to do major harm.

also, re: stephen bush's inscrutable defensiveness as discussed here a couple of days ago, was he trying to head off the new line about anti-racism being itself antisemitic?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/politics/black-lives-matter-protests-catalyst-anti-semitism/

"Anti-racism movements often foster anti-semitism. This is because the most committed anti-racists see Jews as part of an imperialist racist Zionist conspiracy, represented by Israel. According to their political lights, Israel is the world’s single biggest problem, and they believe it exists solely to egregiously and brutally oppress people of colour – including, but not limited, to their Arab neighbours. Jews, Zionists and racists unite, for them, in one toxic brain fog."

My kid's school are looking at the possibility of him going back one day a week. He isn't happy that his usual activities including swimming baths and school have been curtailed since mid Feb and he does tend to deal with disappointment in a very violent and aggressive manner. It is a NAS private school with lots of space, but still doing social distancing with ASC students is practically impossible and he's very tactile and probably puts hand on his face or mouth about a thousand times a day whilst stimming. And also the school's staff all mainly come from Sheffield and Barnsley which are Rona hotspots. On the other hand I can deal with a few bad days in a row and a few torn t-shirts, even if it does drive me to smoking again! My partner's MS is really bad right now and she's on the strong painkillers again and even just one day of respite could be very beneficial.

As someone who starts their teacher training soon, glad I've left the Labour party so my subs don't fund clamping down on teaching unions

— annie 🤝 🌹 (@comradeannie) June 27, 2020

how is this even enforceable? are any exemptions being made for vulnerable children or kids with vulnerable people in their households? I hope parents are getting organised. pic.twitter.com/LSezE77ipV

— michael (@Sisyphusa) June 28, 2020

My kid's school are looking at the possibility of him going back one day a week. He isn't happy that his usual activities including swimming baths and school have been curtailed since mid Feb and he does tend to deal with disappointment in a very violent and aggressive manner. It is a NAS private school with lots of space, but still doing social distancing with ASC students is practically impossible and he's very tactile and probably puts hand on his face or mouth about a thousand times a day whilst stimming. And also the school's staff all mainly come from Sheffield and Barnsley which are Rona hotspots. On the other hand I can deal with a few bad days in a row and a few torn t-shirts, even if it does drive me to smoking again! My partner's MS is really bad right now and she's on the strong painkillers again and even just one day of respite could be very beneficial.

― calzino, Sunday, 28 June 2020 08:07 (eighteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

this sounds great, i'm glad the school is finding a way to accom you and your family. i know that all the teachers I work with are really keen for the school to do the most it can. Lots of the families I'm talking about are living in small properties with parents and grandparents and kids in the same small flat. When you add a child with lots of behavioural issues stuck at home w/ siblings and everyones routines out of what, its impossible not to sympathise with everyone in this scenario, and teachers care a lot about kids. In SEN schools its understood that care IS a huge part of what schools do and so the idea that they're just daycare so parents can work isn't really controversial, its seen as a necessary and important component of the community function of the school.

its totally understandable that there will be behavioural issues and this is obviously 'part of the job.' I worked w. children with sever behavioural difficulties for years and I expected it and a large proportion of the children at the school i'm talking about have very severe communication issues and are very high need. but so little is being done to protect them. the school doesn't have enough bathroom facilities to protect their dignity, there is never soap in the bathrooms, important facilites around hygiene that get damaged are rarely repaired (toilets go out of action for months) basic things like gloves for changing are in short supply. money is always spent in ways that are eye-catching to ofsted etc. (play equipment that looks flashy but isn't appealing to the kids and gets ignored by them). while the teachers i know, all have deep concern for the kids in their class, senior management are nasty careerists who quite obviously do not like and are afraid of the children. the school is run at an executive level with all attention on what looks good. so getting kids in is all about ofsted and upping numbers and there is no plan about how this will work. Although as I understand it the union has been involved and forced some beneficial changes but could not get the school/local authority to provide any ppe.

its interesting how covid really brings out existing structural injustices and I think the appalling way senior management operate in this school is really emphasised in this moment.