Search and Destroy: Mariah Carey

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OG Honeymoon Ave (morrisp), Saturday, 27 June 2020 17:05 (three years ago) link

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OG Honeymoon Ave (morrisp), Saturday, 27 June 2020 17:05 (three years ago) link

she’s no annie

This is like saying Sally Rooney is no George Eliot.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 27 June 2020 17:11 (three years ago) link

it's fun to watch them come around on her when "we belong together" started smashing

dyl, Saturday, 27 June 2020 18:14 (three years ago) link

big search: memoirs of an imperfect angel; caution

specific fry such as scampo (||||||||), Saturday, 27 June 2020 18:31 (three years ago) link

Caution still sounds marvelous.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 27 June 2020 18:32 (three years ago) link

otm, such a great album

carin' (map), Saturday, 27 June 2020 18:34 (three years ago) link

"a no no" is so much fun

carin' (map), Saturday, 27 June 2020 18:34 (three years ago) link

oh my god, i hadn't seen the video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sap-GTtCiU

carin' (map), Saturday, 27 June 2020 18:40 (three years ago) link

three months pass...

No one seems to have brought up the revelation that Mariah secretly wrote, recorded, and sang backing vocals on an alternative rock album in the midst of recording Daydream.

Fun fact: I did an alternative album while I was making Daydream 👀 Just for laughs, but it got me through some dark days. Here's a little of what I wrote about it in #TheMeaningOfMariahCarey 🤟 S/O to my friend Clarissa who performs the lead w/ me as a hidden layer #Chick #TMOMC pic.twitter.com/Re23t5whcd

— Mariah Carey (@MariahCarey) September 27, 2020

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aekQTU_pRaE

📺👁️ (peace, man), Monday, 28 September 2020 15:29 (three years ago) link

in the least surprising opinion in the history of time I think this rules

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Monday, 28 September 2020 17:02 (three years ago) link

Mariah's now saying there are versions of these tracks where she sings lead.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 28 September 2020 18:38 (three years ago) link

this was on beavis and butthead. probably the best promotion it received.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1pCtaeo3_0

billstevejim, Monday, 28 September 2020 18:39 (three years ago) link

until today obviously

billstevejim, Monday, 28 September 2020 18:40 (three years ago) link

That video’s awful, but the song’s not bad. Has anyone here listened to the full album?

I Hate the Aedes (morrisp), Tuesday, 29 September 2020 07:02 (three years ago) link

(Tried to find a contemporaneous review, but no dice.)

I Hate the Aedes (morrisp), Tuesday, 29 September 2020 07:06 (three years ago) link

not to get all serious but this is a really good example of just how easily a lot of '90s pop-alternative albums fell into the memory hole, regardless of stature or major-label status

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Tuesday, 29 September 2020 07:40 (three years ago) link

(that said, it is, uh, findable via the usual means)

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Tuesday, 29 September 2020 07:41 (three years ago) link

I wonder how much the single copy on Discogs was going for, prior to Sunday's reveal (it's currently at $350.00).

I Hate the Aedes (morrisp), Tuesday, 29 September 2020 15:56 (three years ago) link

I also wonder how fast that seller scrambled to the computer to adjust the price, LOL

I Hate the Aedes (morrisp), Tuesday, 29 September 2020 16:23 (three years ago) link

That's a new listing but one sold a couple of days ago for a few quid.

Kieran Arse (Noel Emits), Tuesday, 29 September 2020 16:31 (three years ago) link

I’ve listened to half of it so far on YouTube, with interest. 1995 alt-rock is dead center of my musical universe, so I’m very well-versed in the milieu. The songs are good, and well-written. Of course it has sort of a generic/anonymous feel, which isn’t surprising.

I Hate the Aedes (morrisp), Tuesday, 29 September 2020 16:40 (three years ago) link

Man, I don't know. Mid-90's alt rock was also very much my cup of tea in those days and I feel like it's pretty unremarkable and not at all surprising that this feel by the wayside with everything else in this vein back then. Which doesn't minimize the "holy shit" factor of Mariah's involvement, but it's not doing a lot for me.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 29 September 2020 16:43 (three years ago) link

"fell"

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 29 September 2020 16:44 (three years ago) link

I really wish I could find a CMJ review on Google books or something.

I Hate the Aedes (morrisp), Tuesday, 29 September 2020 16:54 (three years ago) link

thought this was a really good piece:

https://www.theringer.com/music/2020/9/29/21493233/mariah-carey-unified-theory-the-meaning-of-mariah

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Tuesday, 29 September 2020 16:54 (three years ago) link

this was on beavis and butthead. probably the best promotion it received.

Ahh, that's why this song and video seemed so familiar. Not because I necessarily saw it on Beavis and Butthead at the time, but because of my more recent experiences of going down the rabbit hole of watching forgotten music videos that were played on Beavis and Butthead, because "90s Videos Played on Beavis and Butthead" is totally my aesthetic.

MarkoP, Tuesday, 29 September 2020 17:43 (three years ago) link

I feel like that article is trying to make me feel old!

She has transformed from mousy girl-next-door (do you even recognize this version of her from 1993?)

I Hate the Aedes (morrisp), Tuesday, 29 September 2020 18:06 (three years ago) link

xp I actually couldn't find B&B watching Chick on Youtube but it's probably deep in there somewhere.

billstevejim, Tuesday, 29 September 2020 21:42 (three years ago) link

There's so little about this album online (only 4 pages of Google hits if you search chick "someone's ugly daughter" -mariah), you would almost think it's a hoax, if not for the apparent authenticity of some of those hits!

I Hate the Aedes (morrisp), Tuesday, 29 September 2020 21:55 (three years ago) link

Present-day Mariah Carey is in the same category as Bruce Springsteen for me: interviews are often very interesting, zero interest in hearing the music.

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 29 September 2020 21:55 (three years ago) link

xp Like, Sony must have baaaarely released it. I wonder how much radio play "Malibu" got (if any).

The top Amazon review is interesting:

C. Hughes
5.0 out of 5 stars Chick was fun.
Reviewed in the United States on June 17, 2015
Verified Purchase
I loved making this CD- glad (a couple of) people are enjoying it. There is a secret ingredient ;) CDD

I Hate the Aedes (morrisp), Tuesday, 29 September 2020 22:01 (three years ago) link

Can't find it, but wasn't there a thing that went around tumblr (inspired by the rumored existence of this album, I think) about how people who think Kurt Cobain wrote Live Through This are overlooking that it was actually Mariah?

swing out sister: live in new donk city (geoffreyess), Tuesday, 29 September 2020 22:02 (three years ago) link

I didn't find anything in Lexis Nexis from before this weekend.

📺👁️ (peace, man), Wednesday, 30 September 2020 10:38 (three years ago) link

If there had been any knowledge of Mariah's involvement in the Chick album prior to this weekend, the price for it would've gone up a long time ago. This was new news.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 30 September 2020 11:54 (three years ago) link

Find it impressive she managed to sit on this secret for 25 years.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 30 September 2020 12:49 (three years ago) link

Found it! (in this old tweet I liked)

this is mine pic.twitter.com/T0WSyfVxTx

— Peyton Thomas (@peytonology) August 6, 2018

Doesn't mention Chick specifically, but I wondered why this news seemed familiar. Not sure what interview is being cited, though.

swing out sister: live in new donk city (geoffreyess), Wednesday, 30 September 2020 18:20 (three years ago) link

lol @ that final point

I Hate the Aedes (morrisp), Wednesday, 30 September 2020 18:26 (three years ago) link

My bff has ordered The Meaning Of Mariah and is listening to it as an audiobook rn and says it is completely amazing, that Mariah has gone through some unspeakably insane shit and she retells this stories with an "...awkward! lol" kind of off-handedness that is devastating. He's gonna lend me the hard copy when it arrives and I can't wait

flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 30 September 2020 18:35 (three years ago) link

I really wish I could find a CMJ review on Google books or something.

― I Hate the Aedes (morrisp), Tuesday, September 29, 2020 11:54 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Billboard reviewed the single.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ei8SjAHXcAAMrDs?format=png&name=small

jaymc, Wednesday, 30 September 2020 19:23 (three years ago) link

Nice find!! (and pretty on-point blurb)

I Hate the Aedes (morrisp), Wednesday, 30 September 2020 19:34 (three years ago) link

Nice work, jaymc!

📺👁️ (peace, man), Wednesday, 30 September 2020 19:51 (three years ago) link

I didn't find it! Annie Zaleski posted it on Twitter.

jaymc, Wednesday, 30 September 2020 20:11 (three years ago) link

Those cultural refs are perfectly aligned with what bands like Bunnygrunt were singing about that same year ('70s kitsch, cheesy TV, etc.)

I Hate the Aedes (morrisp), Wednesday, 30 September 2020 20:13 (three years ago) link

seven months pass...

Pitchfork talked to a few people about the recording/release of the Chick album: https://pitchfork.com/thepitch/the-story-behind-mariah-careys-secret-90s-alt-rock-album/

like a d4mn sociopath! (morrisp), Sunday, 23 May 2021 04:04 (two years ago) link


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