Bob Dylan - My Rough and Rowdy Ways /2020) Anticipation and Discussion Thread

Statler and Waldorf
Take aim at the stage
At Sam the Eagle and Beauregard
And Lew Zealand the Mage

For which I’ll probably get booed off the stage myself.

Maybe somebody can work this in:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVxTNb3KfeI

Elton and Piggy do the Crocodile Rock
Play Mahna Mahna, play Raggmopp
Miss Lena Horne brings the Animal drums
Play it for Fozzie, play for Sweetums

Nice! Been trying to get Elton and Sweetums in there somehow, well done.

Play Kermit the Frog, sing "Bein' Green"
Play it for Beaker goin' "meemeemeemeemee"

Speaking of clip art covers, Amazona sent me this in one of their unfathomable lists of recommendations and it reminded me of the cover of this album 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Whoa, MacZIng and me and images don't seem to mix.

Sorry, that was some rookie stuff, meant to post this:
https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1535072905i/41444335._UY500_SS500_.jpg

they’re trying to revive sic, it’s touch and go

i think i like this album a lot but it's def not very musically adventurous.

https://i.imgur.com/9OPiETA.jpg

I guess I have two responses to that assessment. One is just the question of the extent to which you're supposed to consider roots music on its adventurousness. Or, conversely, whether it's more apt to think about the ways in which it situates itself in relation to its genre precedents. And I think Bob pushes the boundaries with that on this album.

My second one is that I hear things on this album that I think come from him having immersed himself in those Great American Songbook albums he did and I think those reaches are, actually, musically adventurous.

Not sure if this was already noted or not, but Olof Bjorner's site now has more in-depth session info up for this album. Turns out Fiona did not play any piano on the record:

Bob Dylan (guitar).

Charlie Sexton (guitar), Donnie Herron (violin, mandolin, steel guitar), Robert Britt (guitar), Tony Garnier (bass).

6 Bob Dylan (harmonica).

2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 Matt Chamberlain (drums).

5 Matt Chamberlain (percussion).

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, & 8 Blake Mills (guitar).

4 Charlie Sexton (background vocals).

10 Donnie Herron (violin).

9, 10 Benmont Tench (Hammond organ).

10 Alan Pasqua (piano).

10 Fiona Apple (piano).

Fiona Apple (background vocals).

Tommy Rhodes (guitar, vocals).

Shit, yes she did. Never mind that part of my post.

you still had some good stuff in there, buddy

Our new favorite Blake Mills is all over this.

This guy: Blake Mills

'made up my mind' is a very blake mills-y song

It's funny that Fiona's new album and "Murder Most Foul" dropped the same weekend and nobody had any idea she played on both.

The “Twelve years old, they put me in a suit...” verse in “Key West” is so great, and comes out of nowhere. I wonder if it’s a fragment of something he had sitting around, and decided to work it in (by tagging it with “...down in Key West”)?

I have a theory (based on nothing) that verse is about discovering music as a kid.

I think it's about when he got his first suit.

When he grew out of it, they gave it to a vagabond. Admittedly, a small vagabond.

He said there are no metaphors on this album, you guys! ;)

I drive fast cars, and I eat fast fooooods . . . :)

I just noticed he says, "wait a minute, boys" exactly the same way as in Hurricane.

In Murder Most Foul that is.

It's funny that Fiona's new album and "Murder Most Foul" dropped the same weekend and nobody had any idea she played on both.

maybe she asked him to!!! #applegate

He also mentioned “Memphis in June” in another song (“Tight Connection to My Heart”). There should be a list of specific things referenced more than once in Dylan songs.

Key West, fuuck

'i've made up my mind' turns me into a puddle every time i listen

Oh God, me too. I find it almost unbearably poignant and beautiful.

It’s going to be one of the modern standards much as ‘Make You Feel My Love’ has become.

"To Make You Feel My Love" is not poignant or beautiful, though

heartfelt otm

Bob Dylan looking, to my eyes anyway, nicely toasted. pic.twitter.com/ANgkpBKGTX

— Danny Baker (@prodnose) July 13, 2020

I shared this on an ILE thread by mistake. No harm in posting here too....

you know what subtly rules? the bass on the chorus of Key West

Bob Dylan has sold his entire songwriting catalog to Universal Music Publishing in a deal reportedly worth more than $300 million https://t.co/tDr2JysbP9

— Rolling Stone (@RollingStone) December 7, 2020

My kneejerk reaction to this was "No!" but then I realized...what are they gonna do, license it to Victoria's Secret?

Ha, exactly.

“Thanks, dad.”

dang yeah, 6 kids right? $50M apiece

Jesse’s been disowned. Bob hated American Wedding.

I saw this thread was bumped, and was hoping it was for an end-of-year discussion about how good this album was.

I honestly think my experience of this year would have been completely different (and probably much worse) without "Murder Most Foul" coming out when it did. It somehow seemed to meet the needs of the moment - at once something to puzzle about and something to help us grieve - and then look ahead to what was coming: "The soul of a nation been torn away," "If you want to remember you better write down the names," "It is what it is, and it's murder most foul."

"key west" was the one for me. was not expecting for emotional breakdowns to be soundtracked by a new bob dylan song, but it's just astonishing and beautiful

Jesse’s been disowned. Bob hated American Wedding.

However he absolutely loves How High, so it wall comes out a wash.

Wall wash too, sure, why not?

I've tried returning to this album and found three tunes disposable ("Black Rider," "Goodbye Jimmy Reed," maybe "False Prophet"), love "Key West" and "I've Made Up My Mind to Give Myself to You" and "My Own Version of You."

I agree with Lily Dale - not in a profound emotional sense, just in that it was a delightful and exciting aesthetic surprise served up at a time when that was very welcome.

The other day I saw the name 'Lily Dale' in a folk song's lyrics and thought: is that where the name of that ILX poster comes from?

I enjoy 'Goodbye Jimmy Reed' more than anything on this record - which is probably my favourite record of the year as I don't know any others.