gosh imagine the Labour Party being the parliamentary wing of the trade unions https://t.co/waghxLqOH8— Owen Hatherley (@owenhatherley) June 25, 2020
― calzino, Thursday, 25 June 2020 15:01 (three years ago) link
She'd probably have a case for constructive dismissal, given the way every member of the Shadow Cabinet except her has been pushed to the fore on education— πππππ πππππππππ ππππππ °π ³π Όπ Έπ ½ (@TypingOfTheRed) June 25, 2020
― calzino, Thursday, 25 June 2020 15:03 (three years ago) link
Just going to remind you that Rachel Reeves enjoys a warm welcome at the top table despite praising Nancy Astor.
― scampos mentis (gyac), Thursday, 25 June 2020 15:07 (three years ago) link
Yep, that's how much they really care abut AS. A fucking statue of someone who wanted the holocaust to reach Brooklyn.
Starmer struck me as an overindulged Tory boss wanker he isn't used to being told to stfu when he is boring everyone to death, especially after that comedy skit on his valentine's night adventure in Newcastle. But he is actually even worse than that, much much worse.
― calzino, Thursday, 25 June 2020 15:08 (three years ago) link
he who
― calzino, Thursday, 25 June 2020 15:09 (three years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EbXamegWsAIWM7Y?format=jpg&name=largeNow we can get back to urging the schools to open in peace!
― scampos mentis (gyac), Thursday, 25 June 2020 15:09 (three years ago) link
opposing Tories in any way = giving Tories ammunition
― nashwan, Thursday, 25 June 2020 15:10 (three years ago) link
fuck me the last thing we need is Labour MPs being close to the unions
― never mind that shit, here comes scampo (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 25 June 2020 15:12 (three years ago) link
Throughout discussion of antisemitism itβs always been said criticism of practices of Israeli state is not antisemitic. I donβt believe therefore that this article is or β¦β¦@RLong_Baileyβ© shouldβve been sacked. I stand in solidarity with her https://t.co/rhxuKGfFEG— John McDonnell MP (@johnmcdonnellMP) June 25, 2020
― scampos mentis (gyac), Thursday, 25 June 2020 15:13 (three years ago) link
This is great timing for the Tories as well, as RLB dominates the news cycle instead of Jenrick who has been ketched bang to rights, knee deep in corruption. some real fucking forensic opposition there Starmzy!
― calzino, Thursday, 25 June 2020 15:16 (three years ago) link
i wonder to what extent Nu Lab 2.0 have predicted/intended that this will lead to a broader blood-letting predicated on arguments about antisemitism
― never mind that shit, here comes scampo (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 25 June 2020 15:16 (three years ago) link
One Labour staffer on hearing the news of Long-Bailey's sacking:βAlexa: play βThings Can Only Get Betterββ— Paul Waugh (@paulwaugh) June 25, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 25 June 2020 15:19 (three years ago) link
That's partly why the pledge (that RLB herself happily signed up to) ensures guilt by association is enough to get rid of people. I can't see a lot of immediate action being taken, though.
― Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Thursday, 25 June 2020 15:21 (three years ago) link
This is one of the first articles that comes up when you Google the relevant search terms
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-us-police-training-end-knee-neck-protests
― plax (ico), Thursday, 25 June 2020 15:23 (three years ago) link
RLB isn't being kicked out of the party and the people defending her don't have Shadow Cabinet positions to lose. Peake, potentially, might be the flashpoint.
― Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Thursday, 25 June 2020 15:23 (three years ago) link
Pretty funny that, thanks to Jermy Crumbyn, there are a bunch of helpful articles online from 2017 explaining how to quit the labour party.
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 25 June 2020 15:37 (three years ago) link
Yep, the New Statesman comes in handy at last.
― Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Thursday, 25 June 2020 15:38 (three years ago) link
this was my breaking-point because it's so obviously concocted bullshit. starmer is meant to be this balanced forensic motherfucker and when he finally does something it's based on actual fucking hot air? prick
― imago, Thursday, 25 June 2020 15:41 (three years ago) link
I wonder what Emily Thornberry is thinking right now.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 25 June 2020 15:43 (three years ago) link
This is great timing for the Tories as well, as RLB dominates the news cycle instead of Jenrick who has been ketched bang to rights, knee deep in corruption. some real fucking forensic opposition there Starmzy!β calzino, Thursday, 25 June 2020 16:16 (twenty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
β calzino, Thursday, 25 June 2020 16:16 (twenty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
I think Forensic thinks he can 3D chess this into pressure on Johnson like 'see how decisively I deal with people who step over the line while the PM protects Cummings and now Jenrick"
It'll fail in a single news cycle.
― BRAVE THE AFRIAD (onimo), Thursday, 25 June 2020 15:44 (three years ago) link
https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/1/590x/Emily-Thornberry-pictured-on-a-train-after-the-Nottingham-hustings-1240309.jpg?r=1581345621108
― scampos mentis (gyac), Thursday, 25 June 2020 15:44 (three years ago) link
We are days away from Israel annexing the West Bank β one of the most significant breaches of international law this century.And what is the 'human rights lawyer' who leads the Labour Party doing? Defending the people who enforce the occupation.That's who Keir Starmer is.— Ronan Burtenshaw (@ronanburtenshaw) June 25, 2020
― scampos mentis (gyac), Thursday, 25 June 2020 15:45 (three years ago) link
.@Newsweek exclusive: Equalities commissioner found to have fundraised for the Conservative Party, without declaring it, following the EHRC saying that it would not investigate allegations of Islamophobia from within the party. https://t.co/SEufvKKoak— alexhuds (@alexhuds) June 25, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 25 June 2020 15:49 (three years ago) link
fwiw, i don't think personalising it as a problem with Starmer makes sense. It's a problem with Labour and the broader political landscape. RLB was no stronger in opposing the terms of reference for this.
― Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Thursday, 25 June 2020 15:52 (three years ago) link
In an alternate universe, RLB is sacking Peake from her Shadow Cabinet.
― Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Thursday, 25 June 2020 15:56 (three years ago) link
I'm told a delegation of left frontbenchers is trying to secure a meeting with Starmer to discuss RLB's sacking— Patrick Maguire (@patrickkmaguire) June 25, 2020
― scampos mentis (gyac), Thursday, 25 June 2020 16:01 (three years ago) link
to what end? no way he can backtrack
― never mind that shit, here comes scampo (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 25 June 2020 16:04 (three years ago) link
The Tories engage in 10 Juedo Bolshevisms a week....tepid responses or silence RLB retweets an article linking two types of police brutality from an interview, not a political thesis and its absolute fire from them— Fred Durst Apologist (@DurstApologist) June 25, 2020
― scampos mentis (gyac), Thursday, 25 June 2020 16:07 (three years ago) link
Request to meet with Starmer declined.
Looking forward to seeing what Rayner says about this.
― Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Thursday, 25 June 2020 16:09 (three years ago) link
Is there any truth to this "hand of Israel" stuff?
We should condemn racist police brutality in the USA, Israel and around the world.Itβs right to criticise the training of police & their brutality. But itβs wrong to attribute US police brutality to βthe hand of Israel.βUS cops should be held accountable for their actions.— Miriam Mirwitch (@mrwtch) June 25, 2020
Notably Mirwitch does not address RLB's sacking.
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 25 June 2020 16:13 (three years ago) link
the punctuation makes it seems like she's quoting peake but she isn't, she's just saying it seems to her like the sort of thing someone who would use that phrase might say
― rumpy riser (ogmor), Thursday, 25 June 2020 16:17 (three years ago) link
Yes. But she keeps stressing that "hand of Israel" is a racist trope, regularly and knowingly used. Has anyone here come across it?
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 25 June 2020 16:20 (three years ago) link
Yes that's an incredibly misleading use of punctuation, she didn't say that.
My suspicion is that the decision was taken months ago to immediately fire the first frontbencher who did something like this regardless of who it was. I'm not convinced that making a martyr out of RLB was in the plan, not at this point at least.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 25 June 2020 16:21 (three years ago) link
Not as such but sure the idea of The Jews influencing events worldwide is an old trope. Nothing to do with Peake's statements tho.
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 25 June 2020 16:22 (three years ago) link
xpost
Mirwitch is smearing RLB by leaving 'hand of Israel' in there.
xps = cranks probably use it.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 25 June 2020 16:22 (three years ago) link
cancel culture gone mad
― anvil, Thursday, 25 June 2020 16:25 (three years ago) link
Fucking Starmer.. Man... Burtenshaw so otm.
I hope he backtracks for the sole reason that LJ has to glue his membership card back together lol
― Scampidocio (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 25 June 2020 16:30 (three years ago) link
Basically this comes down to RLB being principled and brave by refusing to remove the tweet after clarification. If I was in her position I'd probably think sod it and just do it. But as has been said, it seems like Starmer has had it in for her, if reports are to be trusted. so if it wasn't over this it would soon be something else. In a sense the issue of a/s is a red herring here. It's about left purging.
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 25 June 2020 16:31 (three years ago) link
It might have helped if she'd read the entire interview first.
― Future England Captain (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 June 2020 16:32 (three years ago) link
Highly doubt this was an oversight on her part and not damage control after the right smelled blood on this.
Which is I think my only issue with RLB's stance - Peake's statement is fine and not anti-semitic even if she was wrong about the specific training. I get RLB didn't want to get involved in a big to do over that but that's clearly backfired.
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 25 June 2020 16:37 (three years ago) link
I'm afraid she's just not very smart in that case.
― Future England Captain (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 June 2020 16:42 (three years ago) link
Anyway, it's a win-win for Starmer, he gets to boot the last link with Corbyn out of the cabinet and to come over all The One Man Who Can Defeat Anti-Semitism.
― Future England Captain (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 June 2020 16:45 (three years ago) link
Had my brother and sister-in-law and their friends on Facebook giving it, "Result!"
― Future England Captain (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 June 2020 16:48 (three years ago) link
All the people who don't vote Labour now then?
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 25 June 2020 16:49 (three years ago) link
Thank God antisemitism has been defeated.
― scampos mentis (gyac), Thursday, 25 June 2020 16:49 (three years ago) link
I don't know who my brother voted for in the last election but I'm pretty certain my sister-in-law didn't vote Labour! I could definitely see them voting Labour with Starmzy as leader though.
― Future England Captain (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 June 2020 16:55 (three years ago) link
None of them are particularly smart, in some ways it's the worst thing about them all
― anvil, Thursday, 25 June 2020 17:08 (three years ago) link
My suspicion is that the decision was taken months ago to immediately fire the first frontbencher who did something like this regardless of who it was.
you think if rachel reeves made her astor comments last week instead of in february she'd have been booted?
― rumpy riser (ogmor), Thursday, 25 June 2020 17:08 (three years ago) link
and ofc interesting to compare the response to RLB linking to an interview approvingly on twitter in which peake mentions the links between US policing and Israeli security with the (obv non-existent) response to shadow minister for apprenticeships and lifelong learning toby perkins publishing official campaign leaflets saying "I was disgusted that Travellers were extorting thousands of pounds to leave illegal camps. Now I've won cross party support for legislation to end this vile practice that robs businesses and landowners."
― rumpy riser (ogmor), Thursday, 25 June 2020 17:21 (three years ago) link