Bob Dylan - My Rough and Rowdy Ways /2020) Anticipation and Discussion Thread

“I pawned my pistol, I pawned my watch and chain
I’d pawn Camilla but Camilla can’t find my cane”

Play John Denver singing for Kermit the Frog
Play it for Janice and Rowlf the Dog

Literal LOL. Thanks.

Link Hogthrob, Dr. Strangepork
A Silverado Miss Piggy
Ride a mailtrain out in space
Into that silent sea

listening to a few tracks off Tempest to compare

his voice is so much better on this, I'm convinced the quitting smoking theory has to be true it's the only thing that makes sense

his voice is so thin on Tempest

Just read that he quit smoking for Nashville Skyline, which presumably helped him with that Lefty Frizzell croon, but than started again at some point after, although he was somewhat mysterious about the latter, as is his wont.

Although even the first assertion was probably an, um, smokescreen as well. Also found that he apparently wrote this as well:

I have to quit smoking But I can't quit smoking I love to smoke Almost as much As I love to love

I hear you brother

Play Bobby Darin, sing "Mack the Knife"
Play "905." sing The Ox's "My Wife"

Sorry, no Muppet mention, not to mention any other problems.

Muppet parodies only imo:

"Statler and Waldorf heckle the stage,
play Smashing Pumpkins like a rat in a cage."

I was trying to think of one with those two guys as Dallas snipers, perhaps involving Sam the Eagle, but I couldn't find any lyrical scraps in my magical hatbox to make it work.

Trying to fit "book depository" and "balcony" together was too difficult.

Um, lol.

Statler and Waldorf
Take aim at the stage
At Sam the Eagle and Beauregard
And Lew Zealand the Mage

For which I’ll probably get booed off the stage myself.

Maybe somebody can work this in:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVxTNb3KfeI

Elton and Piggy do the Crocodile Rock
Play Mahna Mahna, play Raggmopp
Miss Lena Horne brings the Animal drums
Play it for Fozzie, play for Sweetums

Nice! Been trying to get Elton and Sweetums in there somehow, well done.

Play Kermit the Frog, sing "Bein' Green"
Play it for Beaker goin' "meemeemeemeemee"

Speaking of clip art covers, Amazona sent me this in one of their unfathomable lists of recommendations and it reminded me of the cover of this album 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Whoa, MacZIng and me and images don't seem to mix.

Sorry, that was some rookie stuff, meant to post this:
https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1535072905i/41444335._UY500_SS500_.jpg

they’re trying to revive sic, it’s touch and go

i think i like this album a lot but it's def not very musically adventurous.

https://i.imgur.com/9OPiETA.jpg

I guess I have two responses to that assessment. One is just the question of the extent to which you're supposed to consider roots music on its adventurousness. Or, conversely, whether it's more apt to think about the ways in which it situates itself in relation to its genre precedents. And I think Bob pushes the boundaries with that on this album.

My second one is that I hear things on this album that I think come from him having immersed himself in those Great American Songbook albums he did and I think those reaches are, actually, musically adventurous.

Not sure if this was already noted or not, but Olof Bjorner's site now has more in-depth session info up for this album. Turns out Fiona did not play any piano on the record:

Bob Dylan (guitar).

Charlie Sexton (guitar), Donnie Herron (violin, mandolin, steel guitar), Robert Britt (guitar), Tony Garnier (bass).

6 Bob Dylan (harmonica).

2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 Matt Chamberlain (drums).

5 Matt Chamberlain (percussion).

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, & 8 Blake Mills (guitar).

4 Charlie Sexton (background vocals).

10 Donnie Herron (violin).

9, 10 Benmont Tench (Hammond organ).

10 Alan Pasqua (piano).

10 Fiona Apple (piano).

Fiona Apple (background vocals).

Tommy Rhodes (guitar, vocals).

Shit, yes she did. Never mind that part of my post.

you still had some good stuff in there, buddy

Our new favorite Blake Mills is all over this.

This guy: Blake Mills

'made up my mind' is a very blake mills-y song

It's funny that Fiona's new album and "Murder Most Foul" dropped the same weekend and nobody had any idea she played on both.

The “Twelve years old, they put me in a suit...” verse in “Key West” is so great, and comes out of nowhere. I wonder if it’s a fragment of something he had sitting around, and decided to work it in (by tagging it with “...down in Key West”)?

I have a theory (based on nothing) that verse is about discovering music as a kid.

I think it's about when he got his first suit.

When he grew out of it, they gave it to a vagabond. Admittedly, a small vagabond.

He said there are no metaphors on this album, you guys! ;)

I drive fast cars, and I eat fast fooooods . . . :)

I just noticed he says, "wait a minute, boys" exactly the same way as in Hurricane.

In Murder Most Foul that is.

It's funny that Fiona's new album and "Murder Most Foul" dropped the same weekend and nobody had any idea she played on both.

maybe she asked him to!!! #applegate

He also mentioned “Memphis in June” in another song (“Tight Connection to My Heart”). There should be a list of specific things referenced more than once in Dylan songs.

Key West, fuuck

'i've made up my mind' turns me into a puddle every time i listen

Oh God, me too. I find it almost unbearably poignant and beautiful.

It’s going to be one of the modern standards much as ‘Make You Feel My Love’ has become.

"To Make You Feel My Love" is not poignant or beautiful, though

heartfelt otm

Bob Dylan looking, to my eyes anyway, nicely toasted. pic.twitter.com/ANgkpBKGTX

— Danny Baker (@prodnose) July 13, 2020

I shared this on an ILE thread by mistake. No harm in posting here too....