Is the Guardian worse than it used to be?

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Anyone who supports the Lib Dems for even a nanosecond is tainted for all eternity.

Future England Captain (Tom D.), Sunday, 21 June 2020 22:29 (three years ago) link

Voting Tory is preferable tbh.

Future England Captain (Tom D.), Sunday, 21 June 2020 22:29 (three years ago) link

I have much more respect for just about every Tory voting cunt in the UK than I have for Billy Bragg, who fronted Red Wedge for Kinnock Sr. Give me Duran Duran any day over that waste of skin!

calzino, Sunday, 21 June 2020 22:42 (three years ago) link

it's about 350 words

Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 21 June 2020 22:59 (three years ago) link

good hustle if you can maintain it!

calzino, Sunday, 21 June 2020 23:01 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Tried to find out who the Guardian’s go to pizza guy was and saw there’s also a Jonathan Twentyman (any relation?) in Leigh who owns a property development firm and is followed on here by Helen Pidd. Probably just a coincidence. https://t.co/ikh7G8cJ2D

— Jonathan (@readonlymike) July 9, 2020

scampos mentis (gyac), Thursday, 9 July 2020 11:45 (three years ago) link

Related:

A quick look suggests the most commonly read paper of those who didn't vote Labour in 2019 (having done so in 2017) is The Guardian (~10%) then The Daily Mail (~8%) and The Sun (~7). Just over half read no paper at all. But among those who 'stuck' with Labour 19% were Guardian.

— Paula Surridge (@p_surridge) June 19, 2020

scampos mentis (gyac), Thursday, 9 July 2020 11:47 (three years ago) link

Helen Pidd has worked in Manchester forever but my first experience of her was when she was a contributor wrangler sorting out freelance bank details etc - when that job was advertised in the Graun they’d always say ‘this is NOT a route into journalism’ LOL

santa clause four (suzy), Thursday, 9 July 2020 12:00 (three years ago) link

Tried to find out who the Guardian’s go to pizza guy was and saw there’s also a Jonathan Twentyman (any relation?) in Leigh who owns a property development firm and is followed on here by Helen Pidd. Probably just a coincidence. https://t.co/ikh7G8cJ2D

— Jonathan (@readonlymike) July 9, 2020

I just ate an excellent pizza in Leigh and you should too. Twentymans, the place is called: https://t.co/bwfFkhMNOY

— Helen Pidd (@helenpidd) March 4, 2020

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Thursday, 9 July 2020 13:34 (three years ago) link

I literally posted the first tweet already!

scampos mentis (gyac), Thursday, 9 July 2020 13:46 (three years ago) link

Christ, that final tweet from Pidd is shameful.

the pinefox, Thursday, 9 July 2020 13:59 (three years ago) link

There was definitely a point where there were more Labour voters reading the Mail than the Guardian, there might still be for all I know.

Matt DC, Thursday, 9 July 2020 14:02 (three years ago) link

Hitchens is unwell today's stand in columnist is Kieran Shitstarm

calzino, Thursday, 9 July 2020 14:10 (three years ago) link

The Manchester Guardian was founded in the wake of the Pizzaloo Massacre to promote the reforming liberal interests.. Blah blah

calzino, Thursday, 9 July 2020 14:30 (three years ago) link

The Griftian

Mein Skampf (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 July 2020 14:34 (three years ago) link

What’s wrong with you?? https://t.co/0lrSXQzM03

— Aniqah (@AniqahC) July 9, 2020

cool

scampos mentis (gyac), Thursday, 9 July 2020 14:34 (three years ago) link

I would pretend I couldn't speak English if Helen Pidd tried to talk to me tbf

Mein Skampf (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 July 2020 14:35 (three years ago) link

lol

The Fields o' Fat Henry (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 July 2020 14:38 (three years ago) link

Wonder how she knew they were voting Labour if they couldn't speak English.

nashwan, Thursday, 9 July 2020 15:11 (three years ago) link

they made the universal sign language of the Starmzy which obv is the jerk off motion followed by a thumbs up

calzino, Thursday, 9 July 2020 15:15 (three years ago) link

For those alleged Labour supporters who have been trying to get ex-Labour voters in this story cancelled, shame on you. Why not try to understand why Leigh went Tory and what it will take to win these folk back instead of piling on? https://t.co/Md7vsqUuQv

— Helen Pidd (@helenpidd) July 9, 2020

Trying to get a story cancelled is it?

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 9 July 2020 18:09 (three years ago) link

helen piss

per aspera ad scampo (||||||||), Thursday, 9 July 2020 18:26 (three years ago) link

working class artisan pizzeria owner

Temporary Erogenous Zone (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 9 July 2020 18:28 (three years ago) link

Ah look who it is pic.twitter.com/5ANqipa0vX

— Ismail (@IML91) July 9, 2020

nashwan, Thursday, 9 July 2020 18:35 (three years ago) link

according to the article what it will take to win ex-Labour voters back:

- Leigh be more than 97% white
- lack of imagination

nashwan, Thursday, 9 July 2020 18:38 (three years ago) link

You can be working class and run a restaurant - or indeed be a property developer. Ask Andrew Twentyman how much money he makes from the Pizzeria: minimum wage. The Guardian interviews UC claimants all the time - I'm sure I will do so in Leigh before long too.

— Helen Pidd (@helenpidd) July 9, 2020

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 9 July 2020 19:59 (three years ago) link

If you're in a hole stop digging.

The Fields o' Fat Henry (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 July 2020 20:02 (three years ago) link

Helen Piss will never log off

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 9 July 2020 20:05 (three years ago) link

lol! It reminds me of all the times I've dealt with small business owners who live in 6 bedroom houses and go on countless holidays and say to me: do you know how much money I've earned this tax year so far eh? 200 quid. Without mentioning all the hundreds of thousands they are due from all the big companies that will pay up later when work is signed off.

calzino, Thursday, 9 July 2020 20:07 (three years ago) link

although by her definition he is working class, because in her shit-eating piece it just really signifies "white"

calzino, Thursday, 9 July 2020 20:10 (three years ago) link

is andrew twentyman really a name, getting big penn badgely vibes
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/064/481/44d.jpg

||||||||, Thursday, 9 July 2020 20:11 (three years ago) link

I'm guessing he has a Northern accent, that's usually proof enough for UK media types.

The Fields o' Fat Henry (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 July 2020 20:12 (three years ago) link

The other guy in that article signs it off by basically going “ah well all those dead people eh? That’s 44000 pensions the government doesn’t have to pay for.”

scampos mentis (gyac), Thursday, 9 July 2020 20:12 (three years ago) link

he should get a job in a think-tank

calzino, Thursday, 9 July 2020 20:13 (three years ago) link

Who asked for this?!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ecg6Dw0X0AAQysT?format=jpg&name=large

scampos mentis (gyac), Thursday, 9 July 2020 21:28 (three years ago) link

So if I misspell ‘dolcelatte’ is that evidence of working class identity?

santa clause four (suzy), Thursday, 9 July 2020 21:30 (three years ago) link

idk if that is so bad, replace the chicken with decent mushrooms and throw the pineapple in the bin and you'll have something serviceable

imago, Thursday, 9 July 2020 21:33 (three years ago) link

is andrew twentyman really a name

it just means that one of his ancestors in medieval times was twenty men

℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Thursday, 9 July 2020 21:44 (three years ago) link

Sorry but pineapple and sriracha is horrific.

scampos mentis (gyac), Thursday, 9 July 2020 21:47 (three years ago) link

yeah I did say the pineapple had to go

imago, Thursday, 9 July 2020 21:48 (three years ago) link

british people and their pizza, Jesus fucking christ.

chicken has to be the first to go and should never be on a pizza

(I'm british btw)

Temporary Erogenous Zone (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 9 July 2020 21:48 (three years ago) link

Chicken is fine tbh.

scampos mentis (gyac), Thursday, 9 July 2020 21:50 (three years ago) link

nope

Temporary Erogenous Zone (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 9 July 2020 21:51 (three years ago) link

Fped

scampos mentis (gyac), Thursday, 9 July 2020 21:53 (three years ago) link

Chicken is theoretically fine but I don't eat it any more and anyway good mushrooms create a similar effect but so much better

imago, Thursday, 9 July 2020 21:54 (three years ago) link

Chicken on pizza is hideous. Pineapple and sriracha sounds fine tbh but not on a pizza

crisp, Thursday, 9 July 2020 21:56 (three years ago) link

chicken on pizza is just so dried out

Temporary Erogenous Zone (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 9 July 2020 21:57 (three years ago) link

I had a chicken pizza tonight it's pretty edible

Mein Skampf (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 July 2020 21:57 (three years ago) link

pizza + guardian = internecine left violence

imago, Thursday, 9 July 2020 21:59 (three years ago) link


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