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ugh

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 19:13 (three years ago) link

Super disappointed but not entirely surprised to hear that about Ellis.

Nhex, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 19:18 (three years ago) link

Yeah, that's a good description of where I'm at.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 19:31 (three years ago) link

Same here.

mh, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 19:57 (three years ago) link

Ellis got exposed, chatlogs and cam-caps and all, 15 years ago, so I was very not surprised.

an, uh, razor of love (sic), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 19:59 (three years ago) link

Ah, I'm not the only one that remembers that (and so not too surprised here either).

carson dial, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 20:18 (three years ago) link

I never saw that and bringing it up now feels like an empty shrug to the women who either didn’t see it, or gave a man the benefit of a doubt that past behavior wouldn’t predict his actions in the future. Or that that behavior didn’t seem as bad as it could have been, not realizing how it’d affect them.

I’m always at least mildly surprised when someone’s vaguely seedy behavior indicates actual exploitative behavior, or when people don’t learn from publicly being outed, because I guess at heart I have this naivety that people will try to do better.

I saw that Chip Zdarsky mentioned Stewart on twitter in the context that he saw him dating younger women, although not the age difference indicated by grooming, when they shared a studio and felt bad about not seeing signs. But without community, including men who are willing to be open to calling things out, it’s difficult. If a woman in my field knew my colleague was abusive, am I approachable? Or did I know and was already protecting him?

mh, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 23:05 (three years ago) link

Hadn't heard these accusations against Ellis until now, but even when he was a fan/just starting out as a writer he was a total arsehole in person/public.

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 23:16 (three years ago) link

bringing it up now feels like an empty shrug

absolutely not intended - given all of the openly known sexual abusers aggressively protected by DC and Dark Horse and DC and DC in the years since, I'm very saddened that he was apparently able to cruise right back along with the same grooming behaviour, except even more exploitative & no benefit-of-the-doubt re consensuality from his cult-of-personality message board, with the earlier revelations somehow not even making it into one of the whisper networks.

an, uh, razor of love (sic), Thursday, 18 June 2020 06:16 (three years ago) link

This is obviously not specific to this situation:

Guys: you know that dude who said something creepy about women to you once or twice, but seemed fine after that? That dude was testing you. Pushing your boundaries to see how you'd react, the same way they push the girls they prey on.

— Stacy King (@stacyking) June 17, 2020

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 18 June 2020 08:26 (three years ago) link

Dave Sim has, to all intents and purposes, retired from comics. (What's that?, I hear you cry, We thought that had happened over a decade ago!)

http://momentofcerebus.blogspot.com/2020/06/breaking-strange-death-of-alex-raymond.html?m=1

Even the fanbase stuff - and I was/am still buying the Archive prints when they crowdfund as they're pretty fascinating historical documents - is making less than no money and Dave getting by on about $85CAD a week. His move to the puritanical life at the turn of the century might have made him better placed than most to eke out meagre income, but he's clearly sick of even trying any more.

Mud... jam... failure (aldo), Thursday, 18 June 2020 21:25 (three years ago) link

The dude who's been drawing Dave's comics for him, unpaid, for several years is further into the blog expressing his frustration that Sim has been erecting completely arbitrary barriers to his own success for a long time, so that he can blame those as an excuse for not publishing, and continue his martyr complex. The post includes a link to a letter he wrote Sim over three years ago yelling at him about this.

an, uh, razor of love (sic), Thursday, 18 June 2020 21:33 (three years ago) link

Sim is absolutely the master of his own demise and I don't think anyone has any sympathy any more. Even the Archive series has been through three volunteers and they've only got to vol 8.

Mud... jam... failure (aldo), Thursday, 18 June 2020 21:39 (three years ago) link

Old Cerberus books don't sell? I guess they've been out of the limelight for a while...

Nhex, Thursday, 18 June 2020 21:43 (three years ago) link

Also, they're not all in print at once, and when Dave spent many tens of thousands of dollars on remastering the art so they were better-looking than ever before, on cleaner paper, he just put them back out under the same covers (and I think under the same re-order codes?) as and when the previous editions were especially drastically out of print, rather than giving anyone a chance to promote them.

an, uh, razor of love (sic), Thursday, 18 June 2020 22:11 (three years ago) link

Yeah, they went back under exactly the same codes so if you wanted to actively trade up you couldn't.

My copies came from Dave via a pledge level on one of the Archive KSs before the Patreon days (and wrist issues) because it was the only way I could guarantee the new editions (and I think it was something trivial like $5CAD over trade price).

Mud... jam... failure (aldo), Friday, 19 June 2020 05:36 (three years ago) link

From Warren Ellis's newsletter (sorry for hueg)

Hello. Please forgive the lateness of my appearance. I have been speaking to people, and listening carefully, for a few days.

Recent statements have been made about me that need to be addressed.

I have never considered myself famous or powerful, to the point where I’ve made a lot of bad jokes about it for twenty-odd years. It had never really occurred to me that other people didn’t see it the same way—that I was not engaging as an equal when gifted with attention, but acting from a position of power and privilege. I did not take that into account in a number of my personal interactions and this was a mistake and I own it.

While I’ve made many bad choices in my past, and I’ve said a lot of wrong things, let me be clear, I have never consciously coerced, manipulated, or abused anyone, nor have I ever assaulted anybody. But I was ignorant of where I was operating from at a time I should have been clear and for that I accept 100% responsibility.

I hurt people deeply. I am ashamed for these mistakes and I am profoundly sorry. I will not speak against other people’s personal truths, and I will not expose them to the toxicity of the current discourse. I should have been more aware, more present, and more respectful of people’s feelings and for that I apologise.

I have had friendships and relationships end, sometimes in bitterness, often due to my own failings, and I continue to regret and apologise for the pain I have caused.

I have always tried to aid and support women in their lives and careers, but I have hurt many people that I had no intention of hurting. I am culpable. I take responsibility for my mistakes. I will do better and for that, I apologise.

I apologise to my friends and collaborators for having created this situation, and I hope they will be treated kindly. Mistakes and poor choices in my personal life are not on them, but only on me.

We have a responsibility to one another, every day. And I have, in my past, let too many people down. I hope to one day become worthy of the trust and kindness that was placed in me by colleagues and friends.

I will continue to listen, learn, and strive to be a better human being. I have sought to make amends with people, as I have been made aware of my transgressions, and will continue to do so. I have apologised, I apologise, and will continue to apologise and take total responsibility for my actions without equivocation.

I am going to be quiet now, to listen more than I speak, for other voices matter far more than my own right now.

I will be closing this newsletter. Thank you for your past support. Look after yourselves.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 19 June 2020 09:07 (three years ago) link

And a post from Doctor Nerdlove on it: https://www.doctornerdlove.com/on-finding-out-your-heroes-are-monsters-or-detoxifying-comic-culture/

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 19 June 2020 12:48 (three years ago) link

Enjoyed the Kayfabe interview with Frederik Schodt. He talks about a lot of the things he's best known for but also tries to emphasize underestimated factors in keeping manga translations unflopped (powerful artists putting their foot down in particular),the International Manga Award and some more recent manga he has liked.
https://www.manga-award.mofa.go.jp/index_e.html
He said this award has helped a lot of careers, I do recognize a few of the winners (stuff that has been printed by american publishers) but some I can't find anything about.

Has anyone ever felt that some important franchise characters just never got interesting despite efforts to try and make them interesting ("Uuuuoooh god, they're so iconic so we have make them interesting and pretend they were always interesting"). I always felt that way about Dr Octopus and Lex Luthor.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 20 June 2020 18:02 (three years ago) link

Maybe it was Howard Chaykin wondering why anyone would want him to draw Emma Frost (he didn't know who she was until he was asked) got me thinking about this, but I was thinking about how some people, often women are subjected to interrogation about their fan credentials; but frequently the people who make comics don't read them much or know who a lot of the characters even are (this is probably more often artists than writers). A lot of artists who draw popular characters as a living gravitate towards characters that look cool but don't necessarily care about them beyond that, which cosplayers or someone who just buys a t-shirt or a toy gets criticized for.

My favorite example of this is John Buscema (who generally didn't like superheroes) resenting having to draw Aunt May, asking things like "who is this stupid old lady?"

How many Star Wars actors read all the novels?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 26 June 2020 19:25 (three years ago) link

"Aero was created for the Chinese market by the writer and artist team of Zhou Jiajun and Xu Ming and first appeared in the Chinese Marvel comic Aero (Chinese version) issue 1 (2018). Her first American debut was in War of the Realms: New Agents of Atlas issue 1 (2019). The original Chinese Aero comic would later be published or "reprinted" in the American Aero series."

Didn't know Marvel did original chinese comics. Is there any articles or databases of all the different countries who had their own official versions of DC and Marvel characters?

Something different: article about the studio of the most famous current Filipino comic artists. Not all of it is in english.
https://www.cnnphilippines.com/life/culture/2020/1/7/55-balete-studio.html

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 26 June 2020 22:21 (three years ago) link

xp why would anyone read all the novels ffs

you write/draw a story, read all the works that are relevant to the story you're doing and let the corporate story group for your property figure out whether your shit is relevant and hitting the right notes

solo scampito (mh), Saturday, 27 June 2020 01:24 (three years ago) link

Even among big Star Wars fans I doubt many read much of the novels.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 27 June 2020 02:20 (three years ago) link

Ok, I just caught up with Snyder's Justice League, Year of the Villain - Hell Arisen, so I could be up to speed with Death Metal. These books contradict each other and it makes so little sense. Often they ignore each other - not to mention the Bendis/Superman-verse with Event Leviathan which was/is also happening at the same time? And the Batman/Superman title, which focuses on the Batman Who Laughs' infection plot, which is then stupidly resolved at the end of Hell Arisen. DC's editorial department has really gone to shit! (The Tom King run on Batman ignores virtually all of this as well, but I feel like this kinda thing has become standard procedure for Batman; see Batman Inc./New 52.)

Still, I do admit I like that Snyder is willing to goof it up with these ideas for the sake of fun - I mean, Jarro alone made his JL run much more enjoyable. And Death Metal looks like it's going to be more of the same silliness as Dark Nights, and I am down for that.

Realizing also that both Marvel and DC did that weird thing again where they came up with similar ideas around the same time (Justice League's Perpetua arc has a lot in common with Jason Aaron's ancient Avengers/Celestials storyline, though I'm further behind on that one, plus that one added vampires for some reason.)

Nhex, Sunday, 28 June 2020 08:00 (three years ago) link

DC's editorial department has really gone to shit!

― Nhex, Sunday, June 28, 2020 9:00 AM

Isn't it better when they give up trying to coordinate all the storylines?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 18:45 (three years ago) link

https://www.comics.org/issue/407300/cover/4/

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 20:02 (three years ago) link

Felipe Smith interview at Kayfabe isn't finished yet (there's a third part forthcoming) but there's some great stuff in there. I knew most stuff about the manga industry but the sheer extent of the stress, health concerns and constant meetings with editors is incredible; I didn't know original art wasn't a real commodity and that some people have such a better life in doujinshi that I wonder why most people wouldn't prefer to work in that (you can make a good and legal living off fanfiction comics; if you can do Ninja Turtle sex comics for a big audience then are DC and Marvel characters viable?)
He said one Doujin author more or less laughed off an offer from a big time publisher because why would you want horrible deadlines and an editor as co-writer? I can only guess the main incentive not to doujin is you probably wont get a multi-media hit.

Smith's editor was amused shaking his head at the violence in Peepo Choo and Smith says that this is the country that shocked the rest of the world with things like Fist Of The North Star and the editor replied that that level of violence is mostly from a bygone era in manga.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 10 July 2020 20:03 (three years ago) link

Maybe I should check if Berserk gradually decreases the violence.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 10 July 2020 20:04 (three years ago) link

I knew that Berserk removed a chapter from the collected edition because it was deemed too much of a spoiler but Piskor says something like 100 pages were removed from the collected version of Akira.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 10 July 2020 20:15 (three years ago) link

Huh? Why was that?

Nhex, Friday, 10 July 2020 20:47 (three years ago) link

I think he just wanted to omit and re-do some stuff because it was important to him. Apparently changes are made fairly often if the author has time to make these changes.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 10 July 2020 21:04 (three years ago) link

And the doujinshi printing services sound like a dream. It's not difficult to get all different kinds of paper and binding.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 10 July 2020 21:10 (three years ago) link

So glad I was reading Marvel and DC before all this online culture wars shit, it just looks like it would have sucked the joy out of everything.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 11 July 2020 18:40 (three years ago) link

anybody read Lewis Trondheim's (written not drawn) Infinity 8? I picked up a random issue and it seemed good, Dungeon-ish (in terms of complexity, not humor)

Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Saturday, 11 July 2020 19:31 (three years ago) link

i've been waiting for enough backlog of it to give it a serious go; i think it's at issue #22 or so now? Probably ripe!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 11 July 2020 19:57 (three years ago) link

Read the first couple issues of Matt Fraction's Adventureman; it's just OK so-far storywise, but I might stay on just for the Dodsons' art.

Nhex, Tuesday, 14 July 2020 20:56 (three years ago) link

Junji Ito's Lovesickness coming in April

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 18 July 2020 00:24 (three years ago) link

I'm impressed how thorough the database is becoming, still a lot of smaller creators I can't find but there's even serialized magazine listings for the bigger creators.
Didn't realize the Violence Jack was quite long. I liked the look of some of this I've seen years ago but I've come to assume all the best Go Nagai art has a lot of help from assistants.
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/violence-jack/4050-48159/

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 18 July 2020 00:35 (three years ago) link

Just tried to read some graphic novel called Gang of Fools which is so bad I'm about to give up. (It takes a lot to get me to that point) Like, I get that it's fun to make a crazy alternate world and skip around a lot with the edgy characters/settings/dialogue, but the artwork is so bad it's unreadable at points.

Nhex, Monday, 20 July 2020 01:18 (three years ago) link

infinity 8 is fucking amazing btw

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 20 July 2020 06:03 (three years ago) link

Kurt Busiek is sort of producing a series of Marvels-themed one-shots called Marvels: Snapshots, each focusing on a different hero and done by a different creative team, covers by Alex Ross. This is sort of to hype up his new ongoing The Marvels series. Pretty slept on, though I'm sure they'll be collected when finished.

(Not to be confused with the also Busiek-related Marvel #1 one-shot, or the Marvels X series which is a prequel to Earth X, sheesh. All of these have Alex Ross covers for maximum confusion.)

They've all been pretty decent, but this one I just read was great - Marvels: Snapshots - Captain America #1, written by Mark Russell. Taking place in grimy old '70s NYC, focuses on a young black man whose life gets altered when a supervillain "madbomb" attack causes massive violence throughout the city. The other boroughs get "fixed", but not the South Bronx, and his neighborhood and family business go to ruin. As a result, the kid loses out on college and he ends up joining AIM to make ends meet. Good story. (Bleeding Cool review here, to see about half the issue.)

Nhex, Monday, 20 July 2020 20:32 (three years ago) link

Never read any Ito. Anywhere good to start?

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 15:08 (three years ago) link

Uzumaki, probably.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 15:53 (three years ago) link

Fanta's virtual comicon schedule

Thursday, July 7/23, 4:00pm — Teaching and Making Comics
Ebony Flowers (Hot Comb), Roman Muradov (Vanishing Act), Trina Robbins (Flapper Girls), and Sophie Yanow (The Contradictions) are four vital cartoonists who have taught classes on comics themselves. They speak with James Sturm (Off Season) about their teaching philosophy, and how teaching has transformed their perspectives on the comics canon and their own work.
YouTube: https://youtu.be/I6A6OT1xr6U

Friday, July 7/24, 11:00am — TragiComics
Tom Gauld (Department of Mind-Blowing Theories), Simon Hanselmann (Bad Gateway), John Pham (J & K), Walter Scott (Wendy, Master of Art), and Rikke Villadsen (Cowboy) tackle complex subjects–and they are funny doing it! These five cartoonists speak to Graeme McMillan (The Hollywood Reporter) about how they use humor to process and respond to the difficulties and oddities of life.
YouTube: https://youtu.be/UuQ66Yw7Td0

Friday, July 7/24, 2:00pm — I Am Not Okay With This: From the Page to the Screen!
Cartoonist Charles Forsman (I Am Not Okay With This, The End of the F***ing World), director Jonathan Entwistle (I Am Not Okay With This, The End of the F***ing World), and actor Wyatt Oleff (It, I Am Not Okay With This) trace the evolution of the critically-acclaimed Netflix series I Am Not Okay With This back to its beginnings as an original graphic novel! Moderated by the book’s editor and Fantagraphics associate publisher, Eric Reynolds.
YouTube:https://youtu.be/RhgZSUbXJE8

Saturday, July 7/25, 12:00pm — Spotlight on The Cloven: With Garth Stein and Matthew Southworth
This panel will spotlight the debut sci-fi graphic novel collaboration by author Garth Stein (The Art of Racing in the Rain) and cartoonist Matthew Southworth (Stumptown). These two pacific northwestern creators have teamed up to create a one-of-a-kind story steeped in its Seattle roots. The Cloven: Book One is the first installment of this dynamic, atmospheric, and wryly funny graphic novel trilogy by two bestselling and critically acclaimed storytellers. Moderated by the book’s editor and Fantagraphics associate publisher, Eric Reynolds. YouTube: https://youtu.be/KQ-qOo1rGZw

Saturday, July 7/25, 6:00pm — Fantagraphics and IDW: Classic Comics Reprints
Classic comic reprints give readers of all ages a chance to read comic classics in new and exciting ways. Join moderator Karen Green (curator for comics and cartoons, Columbia University’s Rare Book & Manuscript Library) and panelists Dean Mullaney (The Library of American Comics creative director), Peter Maresca (founder and publisher of Sunday Press), and Eric Reynolds (Fantagraphics associate publisher) for a celebration of comic classics.
YouTube: https://youtu.be/7hoB7LgbjMU

Sunday, July 7/26, 6:00pm — Masters of Style: Woodring, Fleener, Muradov and Hernandez
The diverse but instantly recognizable styles of master cartoonists Jim Woodring (The Frank Book, Poochytown), Mary Fleener (Life of the Party, Billie the Bee), Roman Muradov (Vanishing Act), and Gilbert Hernandez (Love and Rockets) inspire many admirers and imitators. Join them for a discussion of line, color, abstraction, and the choice to hone (or not to hone) a single visual style of the course of a comics career. Moderated by Fantagraphics publisher Gary Groth.
YouTube: https://youtu.be/2ybAhDDsMvQ

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 16:25 (three years ago) link

https://hermespress.com/products/ditko-shrugged-the-uncompromising-life-of-the-artist-behind-spider-man-and-the-rise-of-marvel-comics-pre-order

I just found out about this. I'm very skeptical I'll learn much from it (and why so expensive?) but the decade worth of correspondence, new interviews with various creators and family involvement are probably enough for me.

This from the amazon page

“WALLY WOOD AND STEVE DITKO GOT ON WELL BECAUSE THEY SHARED A MUTUAL HATRED OF STAN LEE” - RALPH REESE

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 25 July 2020 16:18 (three years ago) link

Ooft, shipping to the UK as expensive as the book.

Mud... jam... failure (aldo), Saturday, 25 July 2020 16:34 (three years ago) link

Hideousness of the computer colours aside, lol that they have a special zoom-in function so you can see the super-janky zaggies on the terrible scan.

Steppin' RZA (sic), Saturday, 25 July 2020 19:57 (three years ago) link

The cover on amazon has different coloring so I'm guessing one or both of them is not the final cover.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 25 July 2020 21:12 (three years ago) link


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