Regular Degular Redux - 2019-20 NBA Season thread 2

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It’s really funny when Stephen a smith talks football and thinks a retired player is starting that Sunday at tight end

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 16 June 2020 02:26 (three years ago) link

J0rdan S.
Posted: June 15, 2020 at 4:16:25 PM
well it's sorta the reality one way or anothe r

wld be interested in hearing about how star players came to wield so much power union wise

lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 June 2020 14:18 (three years ago) link

The NBA has long presented itself as a league of star players, not a league of teams. Their influence with fans gives them leverage with owners, their leverage with owners gives them pre-eminence in the union.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 18:08 (three years ago) link

idk if that really scans

lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 June 2020 18:10 (three years ago) link

i mean i guess marginal players cld be sucking up to stars to get jobs but that seems more like an edge case

lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 June 2020 18:12 (three years ago) link

like most personnel decisions arent influenced by stars, and most players arent stars but also not end of the bench guys in danger of falling out of the league if some star doesnt cosign them

lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 June 2020 18:14 (three years ago) link

breaking

Sources: NBA teams Disney hotels based on seeding:

-Grand Destino: Bucks, Lakers, Raptors, Clippers, Celtics, Nuggets, Jazz, Heat
-Grand Floridian: Thunder, 76ers, Rockets, Pacers, Mavericks, Nets, Grizzlies, Magic
-Yacht Club: Blazers, Kings, Pelicans, Spurs, Suns, Wizards

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) June 16, 2020

lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 June 2020 22:48 (three years ago) link

stars bring in the money. having an outsized effect on the league's profitability gives them outsized power.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 23:02 (three years ago) link

yeah but in a union where everyone gets a vote whats the mechanism of that power

lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 June 2020 23:06 (three years ago) link

kyrie reeeeally trying to disrupt things

In a recent chat group with Nets players, Kyrie Irving lobbied for skipping the bubble, the Daily News has learned. In that chat, he also proposed that the players can start their own league, according to a source. https://t.co/SqC0wcccPJ

— Stefan Bondy (@SBondyNYDN) June 16, 2020


hope this happens obv

Spottie, Tuesday, 16 June 2020 23:12 (three years ago) link

players league! players league!

lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 June 2020 23:14 (three years ago) link

I’ve noticed that amongst some of my more out there friends that lockdown has really sharpened a lot of their edges, so if that holds true this scans

Clay, Tuesday, 16 June 2020 23:16 (three years ago) link

by which I mean kyrie learning really hard into his antisocial shit

Clay, Tuesday, 16 June 2020 23:17 (three years ago) link

yeah makes sense

lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 June 2020 23:17 (three years ago) link

(only downside of the players league is i suspect the nba is actually a great deal for the players but still i want to see it)

lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 June 2020 23:17 (three years ago) link

when I game it out in my head the owners band together and spend billions to squash it, just lock them out of every stadium and gym in the country and bribe every city

Clay, Tuesday, 16 June 2020 23:18 (three years ago) link

i think someone wld take the players money

lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 June 2020 23:21 (three years ago) link

whats the mechanism of that power

in a nutshell, the pecking order. nba athletes are very aware of it. visibly setting yourself up in opposition to what the top players want and failing to rally enough support is a dangerous career move in a league that's as status-conscious as the NBA. only a very secure player would hazard it.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 23:21 (three years ago) link

idk man

lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 June 2020 23:22 (three years ago) link

i mean the gms hire players not the other players

lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 June 2020 23:24 (three years ago) link

*except for lebron obvs

lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 June 2020 23:25 (three years ago) link

which isnt to say the stars dont have some influence on their teams personnel decisions but just going along w what the stars want in detriment to yr own interests doesnt make a ton of sense

lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 June 2020 23:27 (three years ago) link

i think the stars are maybe more organized cause they tend to stay in the league longer, they form a block and stack the union leadership etc in their favor, then peel off enough rank and file with glow/intimidation and it kinda makes sense

lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 June 2020 23:30 (three years ago) link

use Tidal as a model and promise only high quality play in the new league. Could make a convincing A/B reel from kyrie's last celtic season alone.

voltmeter said i had potential (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 00:46 (three years ago) link

xp it's also a unique situation where some of the stars we have are really good at this stuff--like cp3 and lebron would have been leaders in any field they chose because they're so intelligent, savvy, and capable. also they really want to do it, they're not lone wolf types like mj or kobe.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 00:54 (three years ago) link

nice to see kyrie at it again btw--a breakaway players league would be bled dry by litigation and create tremendous ill-will in the process.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 00:57 (three years ago) link

wasn’t this the plot of high flying bird?

ACABincalifornia (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 01:05 (three years ago) link

yeah

lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 01:06 (three years ago) link

i forgot about that--is it any good?

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 01:08 (three years ago) link

my memory of that movie is mostly paying no mind to character or plot and just puzzling out how soderbergh was playing tricks with an iPhone camera

Clay, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 01:19 (three years ago) link

There was a Ringer thing yesterday saying that Kyrie “relished” going against Lebron in this that definitely made me go hmmm. A players league might be cool but could be really tough to figure out how to structure.

circles, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 01:23 (three years ago) link

rumor going around that kyrie got mad at all of this cause he wanted to go to the bubble and they said only active players can

lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 01:30 (three years ago) link

not sure that the theoretical players league is something you wanna do off the cuff with kyrie in charge is my major objection; this is something you organize and finance quietly and thoroughly for years

Clay, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 01:41 (three years ago) link

of course kyrie ultimately just wants us all to free our minds god bless him

Clay, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 01:42 (three years ago) link

Bless this man and his love of messy drama

Spottie, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 02:02 (three years ago) link

to do it you need an exit strategy from the nba which would take really smart people years to develop

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 02:17 (three years ago) link

players can already leave the nba to play in another league if they want

lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 02:35 (three years ago) link

i support comrade kyrie

methinks dababy doth bop shit too much (m bison), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 02:35 (three years ago) link

we could start a ilh branded league but I don’t want to be selfish

Clay, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 02:39 (three years ago) link

xxp true but none of those leagues are in the us of a

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 02:47 (three years ago) link

And they don't pay salaries on NBA scale.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 02:58 (three years ago) link

Sources tell me that Kyrie Irving never stated that the Nets should begin their own league in response to the bubble.

I'm told that after that report came out, he left the group chat.

— Taylor Rooks (@TaylorRooks) June 17, 2020


Boring

Spottie, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 03:14 (three years ago) link

kyrie has left the chat

lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 03:22 (three years ago) link

imagining a league that only consists of the nets.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 03:24 (three years ago) link

The NBA health protocols concede maintaining 6 feet of distance during card games "may not be practicable," and require anyone playing cards indoors wear masks. Players/staff must dispose of the deck at the end of each game/session. "Sufficient packs of cards will be available."

— Zach Lowe (@ZachLowe_NBA) June 17, 2020

lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 03:43 (three years ago) link

lmao ok guys

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 04:02 (three years ago) link

the dreaded contaminated deck of cards!

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 04:04 (three years ago) link

A “player’s league” is an insanely dumb idea and you are under no obligation to patronize Kyrie about this

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 13:50 (three years ago) link

players league 4 life

lag∞n, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 13:53 (three years ago) link

Big 3 except it's with five players and its the NBA

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 14:40 (three years ago) link


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