Rickie Lee Jones, c/d?

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IMDB trivia for "The Pope of Greenwich Village" - Rickie Lee Jones had originally written and recorded an instrumental demo as a theme, but it was rejected in favor of Frank Sinatra's "Summer Wind." The demo, which retained the title "Theme for the Pope" (because of the movie), wound up on her 1984 album The Magazine.

Hideous Lump, Tuesday, 16 June 2020 02:16 (three years ago) link

interesting -- I've been listening to The Magazine a lot lately but I wasn't aware of that. here's what Sal Bernardi says about it:

SB: I never wrote lyrics in French, but a few different people wrote French lyrics for a melody that I wrote ‘Theme for the Pope’ - a strange travel for that melody. Initially, a friend in Quebec wrote some lyrics and called it ‘Danse la Reve des Cleo’.

Several years later, there was a film called ‘The Pope of Greenwich Village’. I think the film people were seeking soundtrack music. Rickie and I had reworked the song a bit and made a demo without lyrics. It wasn’t used in the film, but Rickie released it on ‘The Magazine’, calling it by the working title for the film “Theme for the Pope”. For the European release of the album, a writer here in Paris wrote French lyrics and titled it ‘Marrant de Duece’, I think.

http://www.pennyblackmusic.co.uk/MagSitePages/Article/7823/Sal-Bernardi-Interview

I prefer the version with French lyrics that appears on the LP, and I'm not sure why they included a different version on the CD release. I assume the CD version is the original demo and the LP version is the demo with overdubbed vocals

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGrEg9SdN3M

panburger partner (unregistered), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 03:08 (three years ago) link

oops, that's the CD version but this is the LP version I meant to post:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aqp3z0sX5UI

panburger partner (unregistered), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 03:09 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

excellent song selection for an ideal concert:
https://www.franceinter.fr/emissions/very-good-trip/very-good-trip-11-septembre-2019

walking towards the sun since 2007 (alex in mainhattan), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 09:14 (three years ago) link

nine months pass...

I really don't know much about Rickie Lee Jones, but I was listening to the radio just now and came across an interview with someone I didn't know. All I knew is that it was a musician, and that when they played bits of her music it wasn't that old, like '70s-now, but the person being interview sounded like she was in her 90s, which didn't add up. I was absolutely shocked to learn it was Rickie Lee Jones, who is only 66. Wow. I guess she lived hard.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 11 April 2021 22:48 (three years ago) link

she certainly doesn't look 90, her voice does sound a bit odd now though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOjAtmLzM6g

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Sunday, 11 April 2021 23:04 (three years ago) link

she can still sing pretty well, though her range seems to have narrowed a great deal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOjAtmLzM6g

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Sunday, 11 April 2021 23:09 (three years ago) link

It seems like there's always been a mismatch between her singing voice and speaking voice. I remember being truly surprised that the voice sample in "Little Fluffy Clouds" by The Orb was her. But then her speaking voice now sounds way different from her speaking voice then.

Josefa, Sunday, 11 April 2021 23:33 (three years ago) link

I just compared two interviews from 2015 and 1989, and I guess she always had a drawl. That does make her speaking voice now sound like an older person's.

Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 11 April 2021 23:33 (three years ago) link

She sounds much better in that clip, this thing I heard on NPR sounded old and raspy.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 11 April 2021 23:37 (three years ago) link

I've seen a few excerpts from her new memoir, mostly re heroin use to deal w biz stress, which itself led to more biz probs, "Watch out for the junkie," yeah they're so rare in the music biz, but might have been more to it than that---anyway, she's glad she kicked it, loves her daughter---and from late 70s coverage in Rolling Stone, I gathered that she had a pretty interesting life before getting much involved in the biz. For instance she made a habit of singing to her brother while he was in a coma, until he finally woke up and said."Witch. Which reminds me that I liked Ghostyhead: her voice suited trip hop pretty well. Have also come across some good post-peak live sets on the 'Tube (one thing that still grosses me out: Tom Waits was her boyfriend, way back there now, but yuuuuuck she too cuet for him)

dow, Monday, 12 April 2021 01:01 (three years ago) link

This is what I heard, btw:

https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/tnyradiohour/segments/rickie-lee-joness-life-road

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 12 April 2021 01:03 (three years ago) link

She is an absolute magician.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB89sotCQx4

edited for dog profanity (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 03:39 (two years ago) link

Great song I haven’t heard in ages. Love when the other voices come in.

that's not my post, Wednesday, 21 April 2021 01:18 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

Finished the book last night and really enjoyed it. I was ~2/3 through it and realized, geez, she's only like 17yo to this point. She had a wild early life in all senses of the word. She saw the world, lived a lifetime before she was even 18. The last third goes by quick and is mostly her early career (which overlapped her relationship w/ Tom Waits), which took off fast. But everything that led up to that was in some ways more interesting. She's a great storyteller. Recommended!

I've listened a lot to Pirates and especially Flying Cowboys since starting the book. Beautiful albums and the production on both is fantastic.

j.o.h.n. in evanston (john. a resident of chicago.), Wednesday, 16 June 2021 18:22 (two years ago) link

listening to the magazine and flying cowboys for the first time today and while they're not quite as transcendent as pirates they're still really fantastic wow

"satellites"!

ufo, Saturday, 19 June 2021 07:24 (two years ago) link

The Magazine in particular is just brilliant (love Flying Cowboys as well) but yes unfair to compare it to one of the ten best albums of all time.

Vaguely relatedly I lost my copy of Ghostyhead and it appears it is not on streaming services!?!?!

Tim F, Saturday, 19 June 2021 07:41 (two years ago) link

The Magazine is the one I had on tape as a teenager and yeah it's wonderful, still my favourite tbh.

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 19 June 2021 08:08 (two years ago) link

you can really hear her love of the blue nile on flying cowboys

ufo, Saturday, 19 June 2021 08:47 (two years ago) link

I feel like she perhaps recognised kindred spirits: smooth surfaces / excessive feeling

Tim F, Saturday, 19 June 2021 09:52 (two years ago) link

I would love to know what Rickie thinks of Sade.

Tim F, Saturday, 19 June 2021 09:53 (two years ago) link

there are just some very blue nile synth tones in places on flying cowboys

which albums after that are worth digging into

ufo, Sunday, 20 June 2021 06:50 (two years ago) link

I think Ghostyhead is really interesting: sort of a "belatedly ride the trip hop wave" effort on the surface but that dismissive take belies what's really going on which is that Rickie makes the obvious connection that these more rhythmic but still-guitar-driven soundtracks provide the perfect foil for her to really lean into her beatnik impulses - most of the album takes that kind of 'spill over the lines of the song' profusion aspect of her vocal approach to its logical conclusion. And musically I'm not sure what I'd compare it to: I imagine it was sold to Warner Bros as being in the vein of the first Beth Orton album but it's almost more like if New Kingdom decided to produce a folk artist.

Tim F, Sunday, 20 June 2021 10:12 (two years ago) link

I have Pop Pop too, it's nice enough but nothing ever really grabbed me about it.

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 20 June 2021 10:16 (two years ago) link

I like Pop Pop, which was the first RLJ album I ever listened to. "Dat Dere" and the Jefferson Airplane cover were the standout tracks I recall.

Josefa, Sunday, 20 June 2021 12:36 (two years ago) link

eleven months pass...

It looks like the cover of the first album was flipped, I wonder why?

https://www.morrisonhotelgallery.com/photographs/gWMf6i/Rickie-Lee-Jones-Malibu-CA-1978

Maresn3st, Monday, 30 May 2022 19:48 (one year ago) link

Was it? Most pics I see are oriented that way. Btw is she smoking a More cigarette there?

Josefa, Monday, 30 May 2022 19:54 (one year ago) link

It wasn't. Album's always looked like this.

https://i.imgur.com/IYiRBnv.jpg

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 30 May 2022 20:33 (one year ago) link

Weird, then I wonder what's happening here, and on some YouTube clips

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Rickie-Lee-Jones/dp/B000002KK2

Maresn3st, Monday, 30 May 2022 22:43 (one year ago) link

My guess is Gracenote or some other metadata provider for all the streaming/mp3 store platforms fucked with the art and it ended up everywhere. They've let the cover of Tracy Chapman's debut go on for years looking like a scan of a cd cover that was left in the back seat of a car in direct sunlight.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 31 May 2022 03:04 (one year ago) link

Don't know if I'll get a substantive answer, but I happen to know someone who works at Gracenote and she's going to ask the guy who handles that stuff tomorrow, so stay tuned maybe.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 31 May 2022 03:49 (one year ago) link

Ok so it turns out that when WB reissued the RLJ album in 2010 as an "original artist series" they flipped the image for reasons unknown to anyone but themselves.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 31 May 2022 16:40 (one year ago) link

nine months pass...

Looks like she has a new album coming out - it's an American songbook album (all standards) produced by Russ Titelman. To promote it, she's doing an exclusive three-night residency at Birdland in NYC, which seems to have sold out, but there's a ticketed livestream. https://birdlandjazz.com/event/rickie-lee-jones/

birdistheword, Friday, 17 March 2023 03:36 (one year ago) link

Correction - she's doing two shows each night, and only the "early" shows have sold out. They still have tickets for the late shows:

https://www.eventbrite.com/cc/rickie-lee-jones-1623129

birdistheword, Friday, 17 March 2023 03:37 (one year ago) link

Pirates can bring me to tears.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 17 March 2023 03:43 (one year ago) link

I think Ghostyhead is really interesting: sort of a "belatedly ride the trip hop wave" effort on the surface but that dismissive take belies what's really going on which is that Rickie makes the obvious connection that these more rhythmic but still-guitar-driven soundtracks provide the perfect foil for her to really lean into her beatnik impulses - most of the album takes that kind of 'spill over the lines of the song' profusion aspect of her vocal approach to its logical conclusion. And musically I'm not sure what I'd compare it to: I imagine it was sold to Warner Bros as being in the vein of the first Beth Orton album but it's almost more like if New Kingdom decided to produce a folk artist.

― Tim F, Sunday, June 20, 2021 3:12 AM (one year ago)

so glad someone besides me loves this album

Pop Pop is great too, that Jimi cover is perfect

obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Friday, 17 March 2023 03:54 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

yo sleeve! Sean and I both spoke for Ghostyhead, way upthread, so that makes four of us who Know. She understood how trip-hop can play well with words, for one thing.

dow, Tuesday, 18 April 2023 02:19 (eleven months ago) link

<3

Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Tuesday, 18 April 2023 02:20 (eleven months ago) link

(Counting her, that makes five who Know.)

dow, Tuesday, 18 April 2023 02:21 (eleven months ago) link

four weeks pass...

omgomg just lucked into a ticket to her chicago show! so so so excited

j.o.h.n. in evanston (john. a resident of chicago.), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 17:58 (ten months ago) link

She put on a fantastic show last night. Opened w/ a solo piano version of "Living It Up" that she sang as though she'd written it last week. The set was mostly from her new album -- "There'll Never Be Another You" and "On the Sunny Side of the Street" were highlights -- but pulled from Pop Pop and the first album. She played guitar on a couple songs, incl "Weasel and the White Boys Cool" and was very obv having a blast. Her band is terrific, too.

j.o.h.n. in evanston (john. a resident of chicago.), Tuesday, 23 May 2023 18:00 (ten months ago) link

No Atlanta dates. :(

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 23 May 2023 18:07 (ten months ago) link

yeah, jealous

broken breakbeat (sleeve), Tuesday, 23 May 2023 18:11 (ten months ago) link

two months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ru_7YGRLoG8

MaresNest, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 09:20 (eight months ago) link

Aw crap, she did a free show in Brooklyn on Saturday and I totally missed it. (I was at another show anyway, but still, would've considered going to hers instead.)

birdistheword, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 18:45 (eight months ago) link

Xpost that video of Rickie Lee talking about movies was awesome. Great storytelling chops and humor but I guess that was evident in her songs.

that's not my post, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 14:29 (eight months ago) link

I kinda love that she took The Blob.

niall horanburger (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 14:53 (eight months ago) link

No mention of that hefty Fellini box though, which was odd.

MaresNest, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 15:39 (eight months ago) link

The set was mostly from her new album -- "There'll Never Be Another You" and "On the Sunny Side of the Street" were highlights
Yeah, came here to say I've been hearing some wine-fine tracks from that on radio!

dow, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 17:35 (eight months ago) link


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