Wolverine: Why is he so popular?

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scamperingalpaca (Chris Hill), Friday, 3 February 2006 17:25 (eighteen years ago) link

That Comics Urban Legend thing is R-A-D.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 3 February 2006 17:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Agreed! Had no idea about some of the stuff - like Milgrom getting fired for the anti-Harras art addition, or the editor scorning Liefeld's art on that Hawk & Dove issue. I'd thought all the anti-Liefeld scorn was backlash driven by fanboys.

scamperingalpaca (Chris Hill), Friday, 3 February 2006 18:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Editor scorning the what now? I thought the only urban legend related to Liefeld and that H&D mini was that the job had to be saved by the inker? Or does "it had to be saved" = "scorn"?

Chris F. (servoret), Saturday, 4 February 2006 00:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, never mind-- I finally got the site to load. Cute-- I never knew that it got so bad that Kesel had to complete the figure drawings for him!

Chris F. (servoret), Saturday, 4 February 2006 00:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Maybe something people like about Wolverine is, despite the anger and killing, he enjoys himself once in a while? Sure its bad news for villains when he shows up, but he usually has a pretty good time messing with other heroes. Unlike say, Punisher, Wolverine enjoys being a badass.

goodbyesoberday (goodbyesoberday), Saturday, 4 February 2006 01:46 (eighteen years ago) link

why are there no threads on the adventures of tin tin?

no bones, Saturday, 4 February 2006 02:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Are you serious? We publish fiction, not documented history!
(If you are serious, check the "Greatest Comics of All Time Poll" for how highly Tintin rates on ILC)(A: VERY HIGHLY)

Nobody ever answered my question about Logan's eyepatch. So I'm going to assume it was private dig at Cyclops.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Saturday, 4 February 2006 03:51 (eighteen years ago) link

six months pass...
Just read this in the weekly X-Axis e-mail, regarding the new "Claws" Wolverine / Black Cat limited run, and the overuse of the character in inconsequential miniseries:

Since cover date January 2000, Wolverine has
appeared in Ultimate Wolverine vs Hulk, What If: Wolverine, Wolverine:
Soultaker, Witchblade/Wolverine, Wolverine/Punisher, Wolverine/ Captain
America, Wolverine: The End, Spider-Man & Wolverine, Wolverine: Snikt!,
Wolverine/Doop, Wolverine: X-Isle, Hulk/Wolverine: Six Hours, Wolverine:
Netsuke, Wolverine/Hulk, Elektra/ Wolverine: The Redeemers, Origin, Iron
Fist/Wolverine and Before the Fantastic Four: Ben Grimm & Logan.

Yet he remains one of, if not THE, most popular Marvel characters.

lumberingwoodsman (Chris Hill), Monday, 21 August 2006 16:45 (seventeen years ago) link

SNIKT

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 21 August 2006 17:28 (seventeen years ago) link

The art looks both amateur and interesting. All five issues can be seen here, albeit with Hungarian dialogue.

lumberingwoodsman (Chris Hill), Monday, 21 August 2006 18:32 (seventeen years ago) link

From X-Axis, these both sound kinda great:

EXILES #85 - We're now firmly into the stories Tom Bedard is writing while he waits for Chris Claremont to recover and take over the book, but kudos for a premise so gloriously ridiculous that you've got to admire the sheer nerve. Having sacked the Exiles last issue, the Timebreakers introduce the new, improved team - all-new and all-Wolverine. After all, if Wolverine is great, six of him have got to be even better. Walking a fine line between sheer silliness and actually having a proper story, this is tremendous fun. A-

WOLVERINE #45 - God, I love this storyline. It's got all the playful absurdity of "Enemy of the State" without the grinding cynicism. This issue: Wolverine in underwater armour! With claws! You either get it and roll with the absurdity, or you don't and you'll hate it with a passion. Emphatically not for anyone who thinks Wolverine stories should be taken particularly seriously, but so cheerfully nonsensical that I can't help but smile. And when they stop for a couple of panels to lecture Wolverine about his extremely inconsistent sense of honour, there are some fair points being made as well. A

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 28 August 2006 16:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Mile High Comics has a four page preview on their 8/23 First Look list.

lumberingwoodsman (Chris Hill), Monday, 28 August 2006 17:30 (seventeen years ago) link

...of Exiles #85.

lumberingwoodsman (Chris Hill), Monday, 28 August 2006 17:31 (seventeen years ago) link

seven years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1NK9qrSqYE

乒乓, Saturday, 21 December 2013 21:21 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Zs92eCn11k

that's you, that is (snoball), Saturday, 21 December 2013 21:32 (ten years ago) link

New Wolverine series next week, Origins II.

The cover is pretty sweet - plastic die cut on top of a painted cover

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, 21 December 2013 23:45 (ten years ago) link

ugh

giant faps are what you take, wanking on the moon (sic), Sunday, 22 December 2013 00:42 (ten years ago) link

do these fucks never learn [Started by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WhiteAmericanFolks.jpg (nakhchivan) in June 2011, last updated 6 hours ago by A Skanger Barkley (nakhchivan) on I Love Football] 2 new answers

Ward Fowler, Sunday, 22 December 2013 10:13 (ten years ago) link

I got the Wolverine & Nick Fury: Scorpio trade collection a while back. The main story is a graphic novel that Archie Goodwin and Howard Chaykin did in the 80s and it is a good story. It's a worthy sequel to the Steranko story. The few things Archie Goodwin wrote later in his career are all pretty good comic books.

The other two related tales are not quite as good and not written by Goodwin. The second story by Tom DeFalco with John Buscema also inking himself is a decent 80s Wolverine/Nick Fury adventure. Buscema inking himself just has a different look, smoother lines. The third tale is a sequel to the Goodwin story written by Chaykin with somewhat mismatched art by Shawn MacManus. It's not the best comic by either.

earlnash, Monday, 23 December 2013 23:25 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyYtOYV4dBg

am0n, Tuesday, 24 December 2013 04:17 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcAuua2l6U4

am0n, Tuesday, 24 December 2013 04:18 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpX3VMTmKzU

am0n, Tuesday, 24 December 2013 04:19 (ten years ago) link

sure are a lot of these, thanks 乒乓

am0n, Tuesday, 24 December 2013 15:13 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87EtjZ_kmWM

am0n, Tuesday, 24 December 2013 17:05 (ten years ago) link

three years pass...

I feel like there was a more recent thread where Logan came up but with search down I can't find it so I found this with the google.

Saw Logan tonight, it is incredible. I vouched hard for the last Wolverine movie in some other thread (the one in Japan where he falls in love); never bothered with the first one which I heard was complete rubbish. But Logan is another level; certainly, by far, the best Xmen movie, and, if they choose for it to be such, a decent way to end the series. Jackman and Stewart are just great; the girl is great. The final scene is great. In the running for the best comics movie of all time.

akm, Thursday, 16 March 2017 05:10 (seven years ago) link

I posted my review in the "Random Marvel Blabbery" thread... similar sentiments to yours!

(How painful was the Deadpool teaser that preceded it, though?)

morrisp, Thursday, 16 March 2017 17:55 (seven years ago) link

haven't seen Logan but if you're talking about the phone booth teaser trailer, I love that thing to death

Rachel Luther Queen (DJP), Thursday, 16 March 2017 19:56 (seven years ago) link

Diff'rent strokes, I guess...

morrisp, Thursday, 16 March 2017 20:58 (seven years ago) link

Yeah it's possibly the best comic book film yet. Just leagues above the rest in so many ways. Also - Wolverine being Wolverine.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 16 March 2017 23:39 (seven years ago) link

Ghost World? Akira? Danger: Diabolik? Scott Pilgrim? American Splendour? Snowpiercer? Nausicaa? When The Wind Blows?

(±\ PLO;;;;;;; Style (sic), Friday, 17 March 2017 01:10 (seven years ago) link

Prof. X is very much a Clowesian grump in this movie. Also bearderine looks disturbingly like Mel Gibson.

Philip Nunez, Friday, 17 March 2017 01:36 (seven years ago) link

Also, Snowpiercer was mostly rubbish

I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), Friday, 17 March 2017 02:06 (seven years ago) link

I would give the edge to The Dark Knight (it wasn't perfect, but was pretty darn good). Caveat: I have not seen every one of the other 5,980 comic book movies released in the past ten years.

morrisp, Friday, 17 March 2017 04:34 (seven years ago) link

The Dark Knight was dumb as fuck

(±\ PLO;;;;;;; Style (sic), Friday, 17 March 2017 11:27 (seven years ago) link

The Dark Knight is an enjoyable movie, but the title character is the least interesting thing about it. Wolverine is consistently the most interesting thing about the movies he's in.

well the bitter comes out better on a stolen Switch cartridge (snoball), Friday, 17 March 2017 11:48 (seven years ago) link

Did I miss an explanation about why there are no more mutants or is that in a line midway through the film?
Was aware of the comic arc where mutants died out from I think about 10 years ago. But wouldn't be something that would be immediate to large chunks of the audience. Or there would be a large amount of the audience who wouldn't be familiar with it at least.
Also does this story directly map to other comic arcs?

Stevolende, Friday, 17 March 2017 13:16 (seven years ago) link

Oh, I didn't quite make the connection with the corn syrup: http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/03/logan-x-men-killed-westchester-incident-professor-x-where-are-the-mutants

This was like Mad Max + The Road + Hanna + X-Men.

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 17 March 2017 16:32 (seven years ago) link

The Dark Knight was dumb as fuck

Nah, you must be thinking of one of the other two Nolan movies... "The Dark Knight" (2008) was pretty awesome!

morrisp, Friday, 17 March 2017 17:10 (seven years ago) link

xp in the movie they breeze over it in a couple lines, amazingly - through secret gene therapy in public water/food they weeded out mutantkind in a generation

the movie is very loosely inspired by a story called Old Man Logan which is much much worse than the movie turned out, they only took the bare bones of the plot (buddy road trip in an apocalyptic wasteland with old Wolverine) and changed the story and characters entirely. honestly the movie is more "inspired" by video game The Last of Us than anything else imo

the dark knight was totally great, it's board heresy to actually say so though for some reason. probably lingering Bush-era hatred

Nhex, Friday, 17 March 2017 18:22 (seven years ago) link

Xp, had this written.
Yeah got what Xavier said, missed the corn syrup.
Did wonder if it was Old Man Logan based but not sure where the cbr I had is. Couldn't get a new d/ld last week.

Stevolende, Friday, 17 March 2017 18:24 (seven years ago) link

Funny seeing Stephen Gervais-buddy as Caliban.
Not sure what else he's done filmwise.

Stevolende, Friday, 17 March 2017 18:27 (seven years ago) link

xp in the movie they breeze over it in a couple lines, amazingly - through secret gene therapy in public water/food they weeded out mutantkind in a generation

I agree this was oddly tossed-off (and was one of the few false notes in the plot for me; could that really be feasibly implemented / "work"? hard to suspend disbelief).

If we're doing spoiler-y discussion, one other small thing that bugged me was the pivotal cell phone video -- no way could she have recorded/edited that (she wouldn't have even been allowed to have a personal phone in there, let alone stand around filming... and some of the shots were just impossible!). I realize they had to deliver the background info to the viewer (and Logan) with more "impact" than if the nurse just told the story to the camera. I guess including more conventional "flashback" images, to accompany her narrative, would not have fit the style of the film. Not sure how I would have solved that problem, as director.

(A final thing I wasn't crazy about was the graphic fate of certain sympathetic characters... but I'm a softy in that regard.)

morrisp, Friday, 17 March 2017 19:11 (seven years ago) link

One other thing I thought was funny was the idea that kids would be safe once they had asylum in Canada (head bad guy: "We must stop them before they reach the border!"). Those Reavers didn't seem like the type to respect territorial sovereignty! But maybe the point was just that the kids would be well hidden, or Alpha Flight would be protecting their asses...

morrisp, Friday, 17 March 2017 19:39 (seven years ago) link

(I know it sounds like I'm nitpicking, but that's just because I liked the movie so much overall that these few things stand out as "off notes" or w/e)

morrisp, Friday, 17 March 2017 19:40 (seven years ago) link

not tossed off! there is a whole section of the movie where they fight GMO corn bullies. if anything, dr. posh nosh should have not blabbed and bragged bond villain style, and they could have just let the camera rest ominously on a box of corn flakes.

Philip Nunez, Friday, 17 March 2017 19:44 (seven years ago) link

True, they did their due diligence in setting it up... but the reveal was still somewhat startling, and only left me thinking, "They found a way to get the *whole world* eating that corn syrup?"

morrisp, Friday, 17 March 2017 19:49 (seven years ago) link

monsanto doesn't play around.

Philip Nunez, Friday, 17 March 2017 20:01 (seven years ago) link

I thought the well-edited cell phone video was strange as well but I let it slide.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 17 March 2017 20:38 (seven years ago) link


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