Prince Albert Pujols, he reigneth

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i wish he'd get up to .260!

gear (gear), Monday, 22 May 2006 21:50 (thirteen years ago) link

Wait PECOTA actually thinks Adam Dunn is going to hit 600 home runs? Isn't Adam Dunn the poster-child for old player skills? Doesn't that usually = pretty short career?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 22 May 2006 22:06 (thirteen years ago) link

That said his baseball-reference comparables through 25 look pretty good although to be fair I'm not sure anyone other than Killebrew on this list is a particularly good comparison (and I doubt this is the list of comparables PECOTA came up with):

Darryl Strawberry (927)
Reggie Jackson (926) *
Jose Canseco (918)
Troy Glaus (909)
Tom Brunansky (902)
Juan Gonzalez (901)
Boog Powell (901)
Rocky Colavito (891)
Tony Conigliaro (890)
Harmon Killebrew (883) *

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 22 May 2006 22:22 (thirteen years ago) link

I'd compare him to Todd Helton: he plays in a crackerjack box 81 games a year.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Monday, 22 May 2006 22:27 (thirteen years ago) link

His home road splits are pretty extreme for his career IIRC.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 22 May 2006 22:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Powell, Colavito, Conigliaro are all valid comparison - big, lumbering dudes with a ton of power but not necessarily staying potential.

IIRC, Boog is one of PECOTA's top comparables (as are Killer and Glaus)

milo z (mlp), Monday, 22 May 2006 22:38 (thirteen years ago) link

his three-year home/road splits aren't that bad: .836 away/.902 home

milo z (mlp), Monday, 22 May 2006 22:41 (thirteen years ago) link

what happened to helton? guy's turned into dave magadan.

gear (gear), Monday, 22 May 2006 22:46 (thirteen years ago) link

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INSANE CLOWN FOSSE (Adrian Langston), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Babe Ruth hit his 25th homerun on June 30th in his definitive 1927 60-HR season (*154 games).

Pujols is a month and a day ahead of Babe Ruth's pace.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 16:23 (thirteen years ago) link

Ruth's pace is misleading -- didn't he hit 17 homers in September that year?

Comparing to Sosa/McGwire 1998 or Bonds 2001 is more revealing. I think he's ahead of everyone's pace though.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 16:35 (thirteen years ago) link

Nah, he's behind McGwire and Bonds.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 16:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Straight average:

25/51*162 = 79.41

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 16:50 (thirteen years ago) link

That would be quite a lot of home runs, but I'm pretty sure the .41 wouldn't count.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 16:59 (thirteen years ago) link

that would be a double

gear (gear), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 17:19 (thirteen years ago) link

tagged out stretching a single into a double.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 17:21 (thirteen years ago) link

albert got greedy

gear (gear), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 17:24 (thirteen years ago) link

BASTARD

Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 17:31 (thirteen years ago) link

He did the Willy Mays Hayes spring training slide into 2nd.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 19:01 (thirteen years ago) link


he straineth his oblique! Shasta don't hafta sell his "73" jewelry now.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 18:16 (thirteen years ago) link

It's the sign that 36 year old body is breaking down!

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 20:07 (thirteen years ago) link

yes, it's extremely normal for 25 year old athletes to strain their oblique muscles circling under routine pop-ups.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 02:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah quirky injuries only happen to old guys.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 04:10 (thirteen years ago) link

I strain my back standing up, for fuck's sake! (But I do drink Playa's Coffee.)

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 10:14 (thirteen years ago) link

I sneezed yesterday and my back hurt for an hour. I felt Sammy Sosa's pain.

milo z (mlp), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 16:29 (thirteen years ago) link

I love Alex In SF (as he knows) but I especially love how he thinks that injuries to middle fielders caused by players hard-sliding into second are freak/quirky injuries! :-D

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 17:09 (thirteen years ago) link

I love Steve Shasta (as he knows) but I especially love how he thinks that oblique strains are something that only happen to old people who are moving furniture and A's starting pitchers! ;D

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 17:24 (thirteen years ago) link

*slurp slurp slurp*

INSANE CLOWN FOSSE (Adrian Langston), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 18:10 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...
Jermaine Dye now has more HRs (39) than Albert (38)...

Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 02:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Sorry, who hits behind Albert Pujols again?

Jimmy Mod: THE HANDLESS ORGANIST (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 03:18 (thirteen years ago) link

you got me!

(btw, I only posted that because I find it "INTERESTING", not out of home team oneupsmanship)(but I've long been a fan of JD generally)

Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 03:32 (thirteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
Pujols has equalled his season-high HR tally with 46.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 02:04 (thirteen years ago) link

He is on the juice, plus he's old!

Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 02:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Haha @ Justin Gaitlin foreshadowing upthread circa 5/22.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 02:20 (thirteen years ago) link

foreshadowing my ass, that story was old already

Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 02:23 (thirteen years ago) link

no, he broke the record. and then was caught a month or two later. hmmm sort of like that tour de france dude whose name i can't even remember anymore oh yes I can floyd landis.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 02:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Pujols HR:2B ratio:

pre-AS break: 29:10
post-AS break: 17:21

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 02:27 (thirteen years ago) link

"In 2001, Gatlin was banned from international competition for two years after testing positive for amphetamines. Gatlin appealed on the grounds that the positive test had been due to medication that he had been taking for a number of years for attention deficit disorder, with which he was diagnosed as a child. The appeal resulted in an early reinstatement by the IAAF."

Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 04:50 (thirteen years ago) link

what's his ratio pre-oblique strain and post-oblique strain?

Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 04:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Pujols I mean, not Gatlin

Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 04:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh I see, Haikunym. You didn't know about this which happened last month:

http://www.cbc.ca/cp/sports/060822/s0822114.html

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 11:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh Shastapaws

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 11:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Yes, Steve Shasta, I did know about that. That's why I said it was old news and then posted a piece from a news story from 2001 that backed up my position. Jesus Christ almighty man.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 15:00 (thirteen years ago) link

WTF? I think you're being thick here, Matt. Follow the timeline:

6.17.2001 = Justin Gatlin suspended 2 years for testing positive to banned substances.
7.30.2002 = IAAF reinstates Gatlin due to the nature of the offense ("unknowing effect of ADD medication")
4.22.2006 = Gatlin is tested after a relay race in Lawrence, KS.
5.12.2006 = Gatlin sets World Record in Qatar.
5.22.2006 = Steve Shasta scans Sports Illustrated
5.22.2006 = Steve Shasta posts doubtful post about Gatlin's legitimacy
7.29.2006 = USADA publishes results of Gatlin's 4.22.2006 test = positive for banned substances.
8.22.2006 = IAAF bans Gatlin for 8 years due to second positive test.
9.18.2006 = Haikunym denies any foreshadowing in Shasta's 5.22 post with regard to the events of 7.29-8.22 as they were "old news already".
9.19.2006 = Message board drama escalates to C-scale level post exchanges, feathers ruffled, will be forgotten in 24 hours.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 15:22 (thirteen years ago) link

9.18.2006 = Pujols has equalled his season-high HR tally with 46.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 15:24 (thirteen years ago) link

C-scale level post exchange: shasta vs haikunym, blount vs the board on the pete rose thread

B-scale: john vs the board on the old yanqui-bashing threads, the "White Sox: great or lucky" debates of 2005

A-scale: the steroid threads

?

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 15:27 (thirteen years ago) link

A-scale = the spammer of 2004, k3rry k3@n3, LEEE being served a restraining order to keep away from Billy Mueller.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 15:34 (thirteen years ago) link

I object on the basis that none of those were "post-exchanges" between ILB regulars.

xpost

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 15:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Steve Shasta I am extremely sorry to have cast any doubt on your amazing prognostical ability. You were the only one in the world who believed that Justin Gatlin's previous positive doping test might not have been entirely legitimate, and you are certainly the only one on this board who knows anything about track and field.

Now that my entirely sincere apology is out of the way, let's get back to the issue at hand: Albert Pujols, unlike Barry Bonds, is an aged steroid cheat who stains the game with his very presence!

Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 16:07 (thirteen years ago) link


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