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That's weird that that's all you listen to. I imagine that you're lying. But why try to look for Eno AGAIN? He only exists once.

Also, check out Pink's "My Vietnam" - AMAZING!!!

Heimlich "Maneuver" Fassbinder Heimlich "Maneuver" Fassbinder, Sunday, 7 March 2004 04:42 (twenty years ago) link

Oh, I forgot--Celebrity Skin, the band. They were arty in a Sparks meets early Alice Cooper meets mid-Sixties Who sort of way. Perhaps a bit too trashy and American for what you had in mind, but oh how I loved them back in the late 80s.

Arthur (Arthur), Sunday, 7 March 2004 06:16 (twenty years ago) link

Haha! Arthur I was just wearing the shirt I have from them yesterday. Saw them open for the Dickies back in 1991, they were utterly ridiculous in a good way, Don Bolles was dressed as Kaiser Wilhelm or something.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 March 2004 22:18 (twenty years ago) link

two weeks pass...
I'll throw out the name Hollywood Brats. Ironically enough they're from Finland or something. Very cool stuff. They're like Europe's answer to NY Dolls. Some Bowie, Mott the Hoople influence in their sound as well. Probably not as "artsy" as you would like, but it's great trashy rock n' roll. Worth Checking out if you can find it.

Ben St. Jacques, Monday, 22 March 2004 22:06 (twenty years ago) link

crazy question but is this the Ben St. Jacques from West Orange NJ?

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 22 March 2004 23:30 (twenty years ago) link

Hey Dan,

It sure as heck is Ben St. Jacques from West Orange, NJ. Your name came up in conversation with some other West Orange-ites, recently. So I googled your name and found this thread. I figured if it was you, then you would respond, which you did. How's it going?

Ben

Ben St. Jacques, Tuesday, 23 March 2004 14:48 (twenty years ago) link

Amon Duul II's Viva la Trance? (Haven't heard it in a while.)

Tim Ellison, Tuesday, 6 April 2004 06:28 (twenty years ago) link

i can't believe no one's mentioned SPARKS yet!!! they are the epitome of smart-glam (at least halfnelson/sparks, woofer in tweeter's clothing, and kimono my house)....it just doesn't get better than "amateur hour" or "nothing's sacred" for me...
i can't imagine you're not familiar with this though, perhaps it's not your cup of meat.

naturemorte, Tuesday, 6 April 2004 08:18 (twenty years ago) link

My stereotypical recommendation: Simple Minds Reel To Real Cacophony, specifically for "Premonition", "Changeling" and "Calling Your Name".

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 00:12 (twenty years ago) link

Naturemorte, Sparks was indeed mentioned a few times. Use your find function. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 00:20 (twenty years ago) link

i can't believe no one's mentioned SPARKS yet!!!

xpost, but did you READ the thread?

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 00:24 (twenty years ago) link

you know who I like?


sparks.

just teasing, yes definately and I'd say much of the new wave material fits this as well, I could(and may...) devote a thread to big synth smart arty new wave, just to toss out some stuff:

Angst era Sparks, Cowboys International, Devo, Europeans(c'mon, who's got that single, I can't be the only one who likes it) The Cars, Magazine, more Ultravox, Alice Coopers' Clones etc

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 00:48 (twenty years ago) link

As it is, I'm seeing Sparks this Saturday anyway, so rah!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 00:51 (twenty years ago) link

on the early '80s sparks/devo tip, can anyone recommend me stuff that sounds like devo's "theme from doctor detroit"?

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 01:09 (twenty years ago) link

(that isn't devo or sparks, that is)

stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 01:09 (twenty years ago) link

Steve Harley & the cockney rebel

A Nairn (moretap), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 02:21 (twenty years ago) link

" electroboogiespacediscorock from france"

!!!!!!!!!!!

Scott, tell me more about the rockets?
(it's sounds like a combination of all my favorite musics into one!)

A Nairn (moretap), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 02:42 (twenty years ago) link

i'm coming in a bit late on this thread but have you heard my 2 junk shop glam compilations, Clap Your Hands Stamp Your Feet and Satin Dustbin yet?
Other Music NYC has them. you would completely and utterly dig them.
rare obscure glam and glitter rock from around the world.-Ursula 1000

Ursula 1000, Thursday, 8 April 2004 16:49 (twenty years ago) link

three years pass...

I'm glad to see Audience was mentioned here. Was about to revive to ask about them. Haven't heard them but they came up when researching Howard Werth. Seems Audience was a 70s UK art-rock band who's lead singer moved to LA to potentially take Jim Morrison's spot in the Doors (Elektra label-mates). He didn't but he stuck around LA for a bit and was involved in the Dangerhouse scene, including producing X before Ray Manzerek, and releasing 1 single on Dangerhouse, the pretty awesome Obsolete, which fits this thread very well. It's a bit punk/new wave but with a heavy t-rex/ziggy glam vibe. Anybody actually heard Audience?

dan selzer, Saturday, 28 July 2007 18:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Yes. I have the first two Audience records. They're best known for House On the Hill. Audience are arty and British. They also did twee well. Audience isn't a hard rock band, floating somewhere between Cockney Rebel and Jobriath. Very much a mood band, the mood being neurasthenic undernourished Brit. Did a Bertolt Brecht-Kurt Weill-like interpretation of "I Put a Spell On You." You should like reeds. At one point Werth used to say Led Zeppelin ripped the melody for Stairway to Heaven off them, having heard it in concert or off something from the first album. I have the first album and don't hear it. Interesting story, though.

Gorge, Saturday, 28 July 2007 20:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Pretty Things: Silk Torpedo

http://www.prettythings.net/images/album7.jpg

bendy, Saturday, 28 July 2007 20:57 (sixteen years ago) link

twelve years pass...

I'm reviving this thread!

To mention Henry Badowski.

And say yeah to Cockney Rebel.

dan selzer, Friday, 26 June 2020 02:22 (three years ago) link

Rawk.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 26 June 2020 02:54 (three years ago) link

This never came up in this thread but I always loved Glass Candy and thought their poppy dance punk was plenty arty and glammy (though in retrospect probably more glam than art).

Here's an (unedited) review I wrote for Alternative Press back in the day:

GLASS CANDY
Love Love Love

Debbie Harry, meet Ziggy Stardust. Ziggy, Debbie.

The drummer plays like Moe Tucker on steroids and speed, the guitarist wears a Bowie- (or Runaways- or Sweet-approved) shag and abuses his guitar like a noise-rock Ace Frehley, and singer Ida No (geddit?) spastically and gamely channels both X-Ray Spex and Blondie, with the soul of a performance artist and, admittedly, a voice to match. But that’s okay; some of the best front-people in rock history never did manage to sing, and her stream-of-consciousness rants work because of her marvelously effective squealing shriek rather than in spite of it, atop arty no-wave devoid of pretentious usually associated with such shenanigans. (Troubleman Unlimited; www.troublemanunlimited.com)

Some live videos that capture their rawness quite nicely:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2XYg7fIDPc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RL-yFNppCvk

I don't know what they're up to these days but they are allewgedly still around?

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Friday, 26 June 2020 06:41 (three years ago) link

they’ve been making great moody soft focus “synth pop” for about 15 years now

I don’t think your username would like it

brimstead, Friday, 26 June 2020 06:57 (three years ago) link

Cockney Rebel's. Timeless Flight is a great midpoint between Bowie and early Steely Dan

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 26 June 2020 13:02 (three years ago) link

yeah Glass Candy changed a lot esp. after I helped introduce them to italo-disco.

dan selzer, Friday, 26 June 2020 13:47 (three years ago) link

saw thread title and thought of Doctors of Madness, Be Bop Deluxe and Deaf School all of which are already mentioned.

Zolar X maybe?

I love Glass Candy, haven't paid attention to if they'd done much recently though

chipstick rebellion (Colonel Poo), Friday, 26 June 2020 14:53 (three years ago) link

Hmm... Sounds like I got off the Glass Candy train around the right time.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Saturday, 27 June 2020 03:17 (three years ago) link

three months pass...

Bumping this very old thread of mine for two reason.

1. Anthony Moore's Out coming from Drag City:
https://www.dragcity.com/products/out

2. Realizing Skids deserve mention here, esp after the first album. Arty in a certain way, pompous for sure, but not bluesy/cock-rocky, just big.

dan selzer, Monday, 26 October 2020 20:10 (three years ago) link

Also realizing I hadn't become a full Simple Minds convert prior to starting this thread, and should say better than Skids they scratch a big part of this itch.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 16:13 (three years ago) link

New York glam band from 1974. A couple of them ended up in David Johansen's post-New York Dolls band.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8E-yjExXak

everything, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 22:01 (three years ago) link

If no-one's mentioned Mott The Hoople I guess it's cos so much of their CV doesn't fit... but Honaloochie Boogie?
And I don't know much about The Tubes, but the three tracks I do know seem relevant (White Punks On Dope single).

Maltrsnapper, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 22:13 (three years ago) link

That Space Amazon song rules, thanks!

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 22:20 (three years ago) link

wish the intro just repeated over and over gain, don't love it otherwise.

dan selzer, Friday, 30 October 2020 19:46 (three years ago) link

ten months pass...

smart art glam adjacent, more raw art punk perhaps but new to me, missed this reissue and can't find it on bandcamp sadly.

https://lightintheattic.net/releases/2230-dumb-records-1977-1979

dan selzer, Thursday, 9 September 2021 14:56 (two years ago) link

name sounds familiar, but should be more familiar to me ... considering ... let me know if you find it! I'd be shocked if no one I know has a copy.

sarahell, Thursday, 9 September 2021 15:04 (two years ago) link

there are samples on that page and sound interesting. I just want to pay for a download is that too much to ask?

dan selzer, Thursday, 9 September 2021 15:53 (two years ago) link

surely The Sensational Alex Harvey Band qualify here ?
they were arty and rather glam from time to time

mark e, Thursday, 9 September 2021 18:08 (two years ago) link

see that Neil Merryweather, touted by Scott up top, died earlier this year, https://rdfranciswriter.medium.com/neil-merryweather-rocks-rock-n-roll-space-ranger-dies-1837feff65f4. what an insane c.v.: the Mynah Birds with Rick James, recording the demo of Piano Man with Billy Joel, turning down CSN&Y, Mama Lion, Lita Ford, and numerous bands of his own (if that obit and his crazy wikipedia entry can be trusted).

bulb after bulb, Thursday, 9 September 2021 20:27 (two years ago) link

well, in theory that seems like a good idea, but in execution, not really what I'm going for at all.

dan selzer, Friday, 10 September 2021 00:30 (two years ago) link

Someone mentioned Sailor 17 years ago; I've only heard their second album, Trouble, and it's an unusual artefact. It sounds like Roxy Music if Ferry had committed fully to storytelling lyrics and the 40s pastiche that he just flirted with (his most Sailor-like song is maybe "Tokyo Joe" from In Your Mind).
Trouble is pretty slight, but it's admirable how closely it fills its narrow niche: nostalgic glam romanticism meets Hope-and-Crosby exoticism. It uses a lot of synth for 1975, but somehow sounds retro instead of futuristic. I also note their UK hit single "A Glass of Champagne" sounds like XTC doing for the mid-70s what Dukes of Stratosphear did for the late 60s.

Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 11 September 2021 14:24 (two years ago) link

Have really been enjoying this Fáshiön music reissue (Birmingham, 1979)--was hipped to it by Tracy Wilson via her Turntable Report newsletter (RIYL Roxy, XTC, Costello & The Attractions)
https://lukeskyscraperjames.bandcamp.com/album/pr-duct-perfect

Kangol In The Light (Craig D.), Saturday, 11 September 2021 14:52 (two years ago) link

Been meaning to check that out. Have some of the old vinyl. Also seen some people talking about how this is the good stuff and forget the later “Fashion” stuff, but that stuff is not without its charms or fans.

dan selzer, Saturday, 11 September 2021 15:35 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

Hearing this for the first time do to friend posting it on Facebook. Hawkwind stripped down a bit for the new wave/punk years and fitting this description.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOCe7GGW3bQ

dan selzer, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 19:15 (one year ago) link

That was the first Hawkwind album I heard, back in the 80s. It's a big rebound from the previous album Astounding Sounds, Amazing Music, which is completely limp.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 21:11 (one year ago) link

“city of lagoon” rules tho

lets hear some blues on those synths (brimstead), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 21:47 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svSV_G65CF4

mark e, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 22:51 (one year ago) link

Seeing now that that hawk wind song was one of the first responses.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 23:09 (one year ago) link


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