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"Son of Schmilsson"

I love this record. It has to be one of the strangest follow ups to a smash-hit LP by a major artist. There's a strong "I'm not going to repeat the formula, but I'll mess up the expectations of my new fans instead" vibe to it that's fascinating (and makes the album title an intentional joke). God only knows what people who loved "Coconut" or "Without You" might have thought of "You're Breaking My Heart" when they first heard it.

And recording a song titled "I'd Rather Be Dead" with back up vocals from residents of a nursing home is twisted genius. Classic, I say.

James, Friday, 3 March 2006 16:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Remember that it has "Remember" on it too (swoon)

Rotatey Diskers With Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 3 March 2006 16:55 (eighteen years ago) link

And recording a song titled "I'd Rather Be Dead" with back up vocals from residents of a nursing home is twisted genius. Classic, I say.

Son of Schmilsson is one of his I've never heard, but I'm seeking it out right now for this reason alone.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Saturday, 4 March 2006 15:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Son of Schmilsson is great; I personally think "The Most Beautiful World in the World" is one of the funnier "nostalgic"/over the hill/death songs I've ever heard.

I see only one mention of Sandman on here -- which I've never heard; is it really bad? Can't say I'm not curious...

mike powell (mike powell), Saturday, 4 March 2006 15:48 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm not so sure about Son of. Pussy Cats actually gets a lot more of me than that one, which seems very tossed off in places.

Dominique (dleone), Saturday, 4 March 2006 16:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Son of... and Touch of... are getting reissued with "bonus tracks"

Beta (abeta), Saturday, 4 March 2006 16:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Is anyone else excited about the new Nilsson documetary? The trailer is available here:

http://www.lslproductions.com/wihn_home.html

Bob Six (bobbysix), Saturday, 4 March 2006 17:49 (eighteen years ago) link

I didn't even know about it, but I'm excited now!

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Saturday, 4 March 2006 18:10 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah, really want to see that - read about at AiCN, and hope it's out on DVD soon

Dominique (dleone), Saturday, 4 March 2006 19:21 (eighteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
I first heard 1941 in 1967, I think, but it was done by someone other than Nillson. Is anyone out there aware of who did the cover? It was released as a single (this is pre-album radio), but it never went anywhere on the charts and I couldn't even find it in the stores. This dates me completely, but I'd love to have that cover version to add to my collection. Any clues?

Melisse D, Sunday, 19 March 2006 11:46 (eighteen years ago) link


I have a cover of 1941 by Canadian singer/songwriter Tom Northcott, on a Warners 45 which must have been issued circa 67/68. It's a good version, though lacking a little of the melancholy of Nilsson's take, and was certainly never a hit in the UK or US (though it may have been in Canada: where are you?). Could it be the one you're looking for?

harvey.w (harvey.w), Sunday, 19 March 2006 12:05 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
oh man "Pussy Cats" is like the greatest album i've bought this year. nilsson's injured voice is a thing of beauty. 200 drugged-up musicians on every track -- Keith Moon on congas? why the hell not! it's like the most bad-idea-fueled thing i've ever heard. as greil marcus didn't say but should have, it is both the first punk album and the last one.

A|ex P@reene (Pareene), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 19:35 (eighteen years ago) link

two months pass...
i just bought some australian import 3-disc nilsson anthology at virgin for 10 bucks. i've sort've been meaning to dig into him forever, and this anthology seems on the spotty side but even so it has more or less convinced me that i need to go buy everything he recorded. i can't decide if he's a better singer or songwriter. singer. songwriter. singer. hmm. hard call. the version of "subterranean homesick blues" from pussy cats is my new favorite dylan cover.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 10 July 2006 04:46 (seventeen years ago) link

('jump into the fire,' holy shit)

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 10 July 2006 06:03 (seventeen years ago) link

The new remaster of Son of Schmilsson is aces. One of the bonus tracks is his last top 40 side, the awesome "Daybreak" from "Son of Dracula"

Chairman Doinel (Charles McCain), Monday, 10 July 2006 18:39 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.lslproductions.com/wihn_home.html

Seattle Weekly says it "breaks no new ground" but still

W i l l (common_person), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 18:26 (seventeen years ago) link

I'll be at the head of the queue come the British premiere!

Dadaismus (Are we in love like I think we be?) (Dada), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 08:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Heard about this a while ago. Can't wait to see it. In fact living near Edinburgh maybe I should see if it's on at the film festival!

mms (mms), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 08:35 (seventeen years ago) link

doesn't appear to be. damn.

mms (mms), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 08:36 (seventeen years ago) link

This seems to hold a kind of record for 'most often revived thread, without actually being that long..'

How true.

I dug up an old single, Kenny Everett singing 2 nilsson songs. How about that!

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 12:49 (seventeen years ago) link

What songs?

Dadaismus (Are we in love like I think we be?) (Dada), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 12:53 (seventeen years ago) link

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y161/MarkGrout/P6190168.jpg
There we go. "Without Her" is on the b-side.

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 13:02 (seventeen years ago) link

ahem.. Actual size.

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 13:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Interesting

Dadaismus (Are we in love like I think we be?) (Dada), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 13:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Wow. This I have never heard of. Love Everett and Nilsson so this is very interesting. Was searching about and if you look at the second last post on this page

http://chilled.cream.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=812&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20

then there is an mp3 of Harry Nilsson from an Everett radio show that's worth hearing. Unfortunately none of the other links on the thread appear to work.

mms (mms), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 13:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Keith Moon, Kenny Everett and Ringo Starr all covered Harry Nilsson songs - he seems to have been a favourite with "wacky" types

Dadaismus (Are we in love like I think we be?) (Dada), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 13:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Regarding Nilsson's fucking with expectations on "Son of Schmilsson": He told a story about one record buyer who snapped the LP in half in response to "You're Breaking My Heart" and mailed it back to RCA.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Thursday, 20 July 2006 04:12 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

I wanted to add a "classic" vote. The cover of "River Deep, Mountain High" on Pandemonium Shadow Show (better than the "remix" on Aerial Pandemonium Ballet though that one's great too) is so classic: sonically it's very similar to the original, with all the instruments save voice pretty much the same. But Nilsson does all the voices, and on the second verse (the one about the puppy) when he gets to the "I'm gonna be as faithful as that puppy" he shout/sings it and at that moment it's like the standards of faithfulness have been completely reset, like you can only really be faithful to another person if you can shout it that mountain high. It's like when Cash says "I find it very, very easy to be true", and you're like, wow, it's not easy for me at all, I've got some work cut out for me...Nilsson resets the standards of faithfulness too.

Euler, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 21:27 (sixteen years ago) link

I remember Blue Peter creating a dance routine to Nilsson's "River Deep" (didn't know it was his version till many years later, it was that puppy line that registered w/me), with Lesley Judd of the Young Generation (the rest wus historie)

Mark G, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 21:32 (sixteen years ago) link

i have been totally obsessed for the past like three months. everything about him is perfect - voice, songs, piano, personality, everything. classic, classic, classic.

Emily Bjurnhjam, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 21:33 (sixteen years ago) link

Funnily enough, I just dug up my 2CD "Ariel Pandemonium Ballet Show" cd set about an hour ago. And suddenly here's this thread.

Mark G, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 21:34 (sixteen years ago) link

how is Son of Schmilsson? seen that LP the other day, looked so cool. dunno why i didnt pick it up

rizzx, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 21:34 (sixteen years ago) link

its good. has the fuck you song.

chaki, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 21:38 (sixteen years ago) link

And Without You, of course.

Billy Pilgrim, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 01:11 (sixteen years ago) link

thats on nilsson schmilsson

chaki, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 02:00 (sixteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Knnillssonn is very underrated. He definitely got his voice back after Pussy Cats.

chaki, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 01:32 (sixteen years ago) link

just to say a little more it has a very ethereal, angelic quality to it. a bit Spector-esque with beautiful string arrangements and heavy reverb throughout. not much guitar except for wonderful acoustic playing and lots of Beach Boys style percussion. some of his best vocals and melodies of his career for sure. even the cover is heaven.

http://www.jefito.com/nilsson_knnillssonn.jpg

chaki, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 01:40 (sixteen years ago) link

actually, knnillssonn kind of depresses me. he doesn't sound blown out, but he does a little desensitized to me

Dominique, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 01:41 (sixteen years ago) link

haha im liking it tons and tons today. btw i posted a song from it on askchaki! board last week and it still seems to be an active link of anyone wants.

chaki, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 01:42 (sixteen years ago) link

+ i'll ask again: where in sf??

Dominique, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 02:00 (sixteen years ago) link

just with friends for now! ill hit you up on webmail.

chaki, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 02:22 (sixteen years ago) link

actually, knnillssonn kind of depresses me. he doesn't sound blown out, but he does a little desensitized to me

I sort of know what you mean, it's still beautiful though

Tom D., Tuesday, 21 August 2007 08:57 (sixteen years ago) link

!!!! I just bought Knnillssonn the other day and was going to post about it. It's good. Not quite up there with the best of them, but certainly better than the snoozier albums of his I've heard, eg A Touch of Schmilsson. Just enough weirdness to stay alive. Love all the plucky-plucky strings (real? fake?) and the crazy song about being in an Agatha Christie story.

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 17:36 (sixteen years ago) link

what is "Beach Boys-style percussion"?

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 17:39 (sixteen years ago) link

are you serious? you of anyone knows that wrcking crew percussion sound.

dr c: yes real strings.

chaki, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 18:29 (sixteen years ago) link

ah okay gotcha

I heart Hal Blaine

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 18:30 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

the most beautiful world in the world
and though there are times when i doubt you
i just couldn't stay here without you

ghost rider, Sunday, 23 September 2007 04:38 (sixteen years ago) link

i want to party with him

ghost rider, Sunday, 23 September 2007 04:42 (sixteen years ago) link

You're not the only cuddly toy that was ever enjoyed by any boy

You're not the only choo-choo train that was left out in the rain

i want to party with him

Billy Pilgrim, Sunday, 23 September 2007 05:34 (sixteen years ago) link

That Knnillssonn cover is triggering tavern-toilet bowl flashbacks

Myonga Vön Bontee, Sunday, 23 September 2007 06:53 (sixteen years ago) link


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